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Reed83HOF Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 1m1 minute ago Following #Seahawks CB Richard Sherman’s meeting with team brass, they are expected to explore trade options, I’m told. They could trade him or release him, or potentially keep him (likely at a different salary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Eagles just got bennett from seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, thebandit27 said: The numbers simply don't support that. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/12/6/16740258/patriots-defense-improvement "Stephon Gilmore’s improvement in that stretch has been a major factor for the defense’s overall jump forward, too. During the team’s first four games, he surrendered nine catches on 13 targets for 151 yards, one touchdown, and one pick for a 101.8 passer rating against (74th). In his five games since (he missed weeks 6-8 with a concussion and ankle injury), he’s given up just 18 catches for 164 yards, one touchdown, and one pick for a 67.7 rating—15th best." That means that after allowing 9 receptions on 13 targets for 151 yards and 1 TD for a 101.8 rating in his first 4 games, Gilmore went on to allow 39 receptions on 69 targets for 459 yards and 2 TDs for a passer rating of 77.2 in his final 9 games, including the playoffs. He was actually really, really good after the first month of the season. I get that I am using eye test and perception over numbers. But to be clear no one in NE was happy with Gilmore early on as the numbers attest and he was singled out as liability. Yes he got it together and played better in last 9 games he played and made a heck of a play to save the Jags game for them. That pic of him selling out to tip that ball was a thing of beauty and something he never did in Buffalo. You are correct he played better then I implied. The facts don't lie. I was biased I admit. 3 hours ago, Turk71 said: I think Gronk becomes a clown in the WWE before that happens. Pats treat players like packages of hamburger in the freezer with a sell by date. It would not surprise me if they traded Gronk. He is injured all the time and getting old fast and talking about retirement. May be time to dump him. Edited March 8, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Gilmore was another good let-go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Gilmore was another good let-go. Was only a top five dB all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, cba fan said: I get that I am using eye test and perception over numbers. But to be clear no one in NE was happy with Gilmore early on as the numbers attest and he was singled out as liability. Yes he got it together and played better in last 9 games he played and made a heck of a play to save the Jags game for them. That pic of him selling out to tip that ball was a thing of beauty and something he never did in Buffalo. You are correct he played better then I implied. The facts don't lie. I was biased I admit. Pats treat players like packages of hamburger in the freezer with a sell by date. It would not surprise me if they traded Gronk. He is injured all the time and getting old fast and talking about retirement. May be time to dump him. I fully understand the Pats are not sentimental. My point was I think Gronk would move on to other things before playing somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Will be released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Gilmore was another good let-go. Agreed. Too big a cap hit IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Was only a top five dB all year Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 7 hours ago, aristocrat said: He’s got an Achilles tear In fact, if it's not shown to be healed, can they actually release him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Report: Seahawks to release Richard Sherman in next two days Seahawks to allow star defensive back to get a head-start on free agency "They're doing that because they feel so highly about him and what he's meant to the organization," Silver said on NFL Total Access. "They want to give him a jump on free agency. I'm told that if the market is not great, they are open to bringing him back at a lower salary. https://247sports.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/Bolt/Report-Seattle-Seahawks-to-release-Richard-Sherman-in-next-two-days-115954445 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Can’t stand him. Glad to see him cut. With that, I’m surprised to see the Seahawks clean house like this. With new coaches and a fairly overhauled roster, I think we will finally see the kind of coach Carroll is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Doc said: Gilmore was another good let-go. For the Pats he was. For the Bills, letting him go was forced on them by the awful salary cap situation the last GM left. A salary cap situation which has been greatly improved but is still tight enough this year to make acquiring Sherman unlikely and difficult even if they did want him as a 30 year old CB. Edited March 8, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Dude is a scumbag. Deserves to be kicked in the nuts. The Tom Brady of the cornerbacks, a childlike petulant B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: For the Pats he was. For the Bills, letting him go was forced on them by the awful salary cap situation the last GM left. A salary cap situation which has been greatly improved but is still tight enough this year to make acquiring Sherman unlikely and difficult even if they did want him as a 30 year old CB. The Bills weren't going to re-sign him even if they had loads of cap room. Pretty much a similar situation to Sammy except they were able to get something for Sammy. And they got a better, younger, and cheaper player in White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: The Bills weren't going to re-sign him even if they had loads of cap room. Pretty much a similar situation to Sammy except they were able to get something for Sammy. And they got a better, younger, and cheaper player in White. There's no particular reason to think this is so. With either guy, Sammy or Gilmore. But yes, a pretty similar situation. We would probably like to have re-signed them in ideal circumstances but terrible cap management made it punitive to do so. Gilmore had already performed well and was considered an excellent CB, while Sammy was more considered a guy with the potential to be an excellent WR. Couldn't afford either one, though. And yeah, the Sammy decision was made easier by being able to get the pick and Gaines in exchange. When there is a guy the Bills have problems with it doesn't seem to be real hard to notice. Look at Dareus. Everyone knew about the problems. Strangely, nobody did or does with Sammy or Gilmore except fans. Edited March 8, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'd love to take a good long look at Sherman, but I don't think the bills could fit him under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: There's no particular reason to think this is so. With either guy, Sammy or Gilmore. But yes, a pretty similar situation. We would probably like to have re-signed them in ideal circumstances but terrible cap management made it punitive to do so. Gilmore had already performed well and was considered an excellent CB, while Sammy was more considered a guy with the potential to be an excellent WR. Couldn't afford either one, though. And yeah, the Sammy decision was made easier by being able to get the pick and Gaines in exchange. When there is a guy the Bills have problems with it doesn't seem to be real hard to notice. Look at Dareus. Everyone knew about the problems. Strangely, nobody did or does with Sammy or Gilmore except fans. With Sammy there is/was. He even admitted it himself that he was a bad teammate and focused more on his stats than winning. And his production didn't match his contract demands. As for Gilmore, I think they'd have re-signed him for $7-8M/year. But that wasn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Doc said: As for Gilmore, I think they'd have re-signed him for $7-8M/year. But that wasn't going to happen. They offered him $11M AAV...he rejected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Sherman is a HOF CB, but at 30 years old and coming off an Achilles injury, no way I would want him with the Buffalo Bills. Plus I am not sure Sherman would fit into the Buffalo culture all that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: They offered him $11M AAV...he rejected it. I thought it was lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Seahawks got away with paying the defense big money, with Wilson mimicking Fran Tarkenton on a cheap contract. Now Wilson is getting big money, and he just can't carry the team on his back. They have the worst offensive line in the year and literally no running game. You have to clear some cap space so you put some pieces around him. Yes, the defense will drop off, but Wilson is an elite QB and can keep this team in championship contention with a few pieces around them. It was really fun watching that defense for years, but all things come to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 PFT claims that the Seahawks are expected to release Richard Sherman on Friday. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/08/report-seahawks-expected-to-release-richard-sherman-on-friday/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Why would we need Richard Sherman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Doesn't it feel like signing Sherman would virtually guarantee the Bills yet another 2019 comp pick? It won't though.........just feels like it should. NFLPA shouldn't waste their negotiating chips trying to get the owners to stop suspending players for weed or other off-field transgressions. Instead, they should use them to make it such that "released" players don't just not count against the comp pick formula.........but count as a NET NEGATIVE. The competition for able-bodied chopping block scraps would be fierce. And fans love comp picks.......give them what they want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 He was declining before getting injured and then suffered the dreaded achilles injury. Not that he'd come to Buffalo anyway, but I'd pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Like A Mofo said: Sherman is a HOF CB, but at 30 years old and coming off an Achilles injury, no way I would want him with the Buffalo Bills. Plus I am not sure Sherman would fit into the Buffalo culture all that well. Fwiw, he actually had both achilles operated on this offseason. Just now, Doc said: He was declining before getting injured and then suffered the dreaded achilles injury. Not that he'd come to Buffalo anyway, but I'd pass. He is a huge Tyrod fan.........so we'll know better if Buffalo would be an option in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cablesabres68 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 No, Sherman only had bone spurs removed in the other foot did not have other Achilles repaired he said he was dealing with the bone spurs for 3 years and figured while he was layed up why not get them shaved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 One of the dirtiest players ever, that cheap shot on Carp will never be forgotten. I'll take a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Who cares, guy is a cancerous grade A a-hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I doubt he’s even ready for training camp and is probably a mid season signing when he’s ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Doesn't it feel like signing Sherman would virtually guarantee the Bills yet another 2019 comp pick? It won't though.........just feels like it should. NFLPA shouldn't waste their negotiating chips trying to get the owners to stop suspending players for weed or other off-field transgressions. Instead, they should use them to make it such that "released" players don't just not count against the comp pick formula.........but count as a NET NEGATIVE. The competition for able-bodied chopping block scraps would be fierce. And fans love comp picks.......give them what they want! It honestly might solve the mid level to low level vets not getting looks problem. It could be the best idea you've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: One of the dirtiest players ever, that cheap shot on Carp will never be forgotten. I'll take a pass. I forgot about it. He's welcome here in my book. He's one of the best CBs in the league (IF Healthy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I would sign him in a heartbeat. I like his attitude and he can play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Joaquin1119 said: I would sign him in a heartbeat. I like his attitude and he can play If you want to sign him, you better do it in Madden, because that's the only way Richard Sherman will EVER end up playing for the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: If you want to sign him, you better do it in Madden, because that's the only way Richard Sherman will EVER end up playing for the Bills. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: If you want to sign him, you better do it in Madden, because that's the only way Richard Sherman will EVER end up playing for the Bills. Oh good, something different from our most original poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 No I don't want them to bring in babbling richard dirty playing sherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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