Foreigner Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Gilmore cost way too much and was smart to let him go 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The answer is that you sir are a twatwaffle 4 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 An eloquent thread like this really needs a bold font. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Gilmore cost way too much and was smart to let him go I don’t love letting Gilmore go. But I don’t hate it at all. It was what it was. He’s a good player and I never understood all the hate in Buffalo for the guy. FWIW outside of the start of the season Gilmore has played at a high level this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. Ball was under thrown and WR did not slow his step enough to protect. Dareus . I did watch him. meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) If Rex keeps Schwartz that 2015 team was loaded for a run in the playoffs. Edited January 21, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mango said: I don’t love letting Gilmore go. But I don’t hate it at all. It was what it was. He’s a good player and I never understood all the hate in Buffalo for the guy. FWIW outside of the start of the season Gilmore has played at a high level this year. His attitude is why the hate. It showed on the field. he wanted to be somewhere else and got his wish. Talent be damned, glad he is gone. That being said it Is a hole fill. and Gaines plays well when playing but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 They both had excellent games. This was the best I had seen Dareus play in quite some time. Hopefully for him he can stay focused on football and stay out of trouble in the off season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: His attitude is why the hate. It showed on the field. he wanted to be somewhere else and got his wish. Talent be damned, glad he is gone. That being said it Is a hole fill. and Gaines plays well when playing but... That is fair. Sometimes this board posts like he was JAG. He’s not. Probably in the top half of CB1s in the league. 8-12 ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Magox said: They both had excellent games. This was the best I had seen Dareus play in quite some time. Hopefully for him he can stay focused on football and stay out of trouble in the off season. I wish them both well , as long as we are not playing them. Just now, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. looked like an ankle injury when they called the injury timeout 1 minute ago, Mango said: That is fair. Sometimes this board posts like he was JAG. He’s not. Probably in the top half of CB1s in the league. 8-12 ish. No jag for sure. he can play ball. Good size and reach. some long speed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I had a nightmare after the sack, that the Jags would win. Dareus and Marrone would be in the Super Bowl. Dareus would have 3 sacks and a FF. Resulting in MVP. And we’d be here in Buffalo, holding onto the bag of footballs we traded him for. I hate the Pats as much as the next guy, but I couldn’t bare to seen St. Doug in the Super Bowl. Which is a shame, because Coughlin is really Bellichecks Krytonite, and I want him to continue to be. Just with a different coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Gilmore Darby Bradham Hogan Woods Dareus Watkins Our cap would have made it tough to keep everyone but there’s a lot of ex-Bills in these playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. I do believe he was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Mango said: I had a nightmare after the sack, that the Jags would win. Dareus and Marrone would be in the Super Bowl. Dareus would have 3 sacks and a FF. Resulting in MVP. And we’d be here in Buffalo, holding onto the bag of footballs we traded him for. I hate the Pats as much as the next guy, but I couldn’t bare to seen St. Doug in the Super Bowl. Which is a shame, because Coughlin is really Bellichecks Krytonite, and I want him to continue to be. Just with a different coach. I was torn at times But i did wish for the Jags to win. Yes I hate the Patriots more than nearly anything. Even Marrone...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Gilmore Darby Bradham Hogan Woods Dareus Watkins Our cap would have made it tough to keep everyone but there’s a lot of ex-Bills in these playoffs. Gilmore, Darby, Bradham, Hogan, and Dareus are all starting today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Gilmore Darby Bradham Hogan Woods Dareus Watkins Our cap would have made it tough to keep everyone but there’s a lot of ex-Bills in these playoffs. were those all Whaley>Nix picks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Nice play by Gilmore. I'm happy we let him walk. Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This is easy for me. Gilmore is a nice player but at that price I’ll take Tre White 12 days a week. The Bills got that right. Dareus on the other hand was a mistake. He controls the middle of the field. He was a guy that they should have embraced. He was a monster today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Nice play by Gilmore. I'm happy we let him walk. Buh bye. not sure how to read this one Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. You didn’t see him limp off the field? They stopped the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Chuck Wagon There was also Ragland, and I don"t follow the NFC that close, so maybe or maybe not someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. Tom Brady! Edited January 22, 2018 by snamsnoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: not sure how to read this one Sig He's a good player, but his value to the Bills right now was not there at his price point. IOW , what Kirby said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just look at that 2015 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 When someone who will be a FA wants to test the market then changes teams, you are not letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is easy for me. Gilmore is a nice player but at that price I’ll take Tre White 12 days a week. The Bills got that right. Dareus on the other hand was a mistake. He controls the middle of the field. He was a guy that they should have embraced. He was a monster today. I would take Tre at the same price now. I feel he is already more valuable at the moment. But I am biased admittedly Kirby. I did not watch the first half , but i did watch Marcel in the second. He played hard. Bills need to find something at DT that fills that gap Dareus left ( Pun Intended ) I am fine with Bills drafting one of these beasts early, Likely a fine starter to be had at DT and i hate to admit I feel , a rather excellent corner could be had when we pick. But Marcel needed a change of venue as did Gilmore. Bills will be the better for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I wouldn't mind having Gilmore on the roster, but odds are we'd have had to significantly outbid the Pats, he'd be largely wasted in our offense, we're not exactly weak at the position, and the cap space we saved gives us the ability to to obtain/retain other talent that's probably more valuable to the team. In short, I'm glad we let him walk even if he is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. he was hurt dim witt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: If Rex keeps Schwartz that 2015 team was loaded for a run in the playoffs. List of HC interviews in 2015 below. Almost all of them better than Rex. We already had one of the best defenses in the league and they hire a defensive coach??? Pick any of these offensive minded coaches and we are in the playoffs that year assuming we keep Schwartz as DC/Assistant HC. Choosing Rex set us back 3 yrs. Darrell Bevell, offensive coordinator, Seattle (Saturday, 1/3) Adam Gase, offensive coordinator, Denver (Saturday, 1/3) Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator, Seattle (Saturday, 1/3) Frank Reich, offensive coordinator, San Diego (Sunday, 1/4) Mike Shanahan, head coach (fmr.), Washington (Sunday, 1/4) Pat Shurmur, offensive coordinator, Philadelphia (Tuesday, 1/6) Hue Jackson, offensive coordinator, Cincinnati (Wednesday, 1/7) Rex Ryan, head coach (fmr.), New York Jets (Thursday, 1/8) Kyle Shanahan, offensive coordinator, Cleveland (Thursday, 1/8) Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator, Buffalo (date N/A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 You really want to keep a guy, you can figure out how to keep him. It seems the Pats always win the AFC because they know who to keep and who to let go. Cap or no Cap. There is a reason certain players on certain teams test the market. Has Brady ever tested the market. No, because he knows with Coaching and Management the Pats make the right decisions to be able to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, cba fan said: he was hurt dim witt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. Chandler Jones led the league in sacks this year and they traded him for a guard who isn't even on their team anymore.... But because the Patriots did it, it was brilliant right? FYI the Pats do more of this stuff than anyone in the league. And you bring this up in the year the Bills did all this and broke a 17 year playoff drought? Where was their talent in the other 4 years they were here? GTFO with that BS. There is also an expression in management that getting the wrong people off the bus is far more important at first than getting the right people on the bus. That part has mostly been completed. Edited January 22, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Chandler Jones led the league in sacks this year and they traded him for a guard who isn't even on their team anymore.... But because the Patriots did it, it was brilliant right? They also traded Jimmy Garropolo for a pick in the middle of the 2nd. They paid Gillislee $3.2M a year not to dress. They signed Scott Chandler!! The Patriots make a million personnel mistakes but they have Brady and Belichick. It covers it all up. Edited January 22, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Marcel Dareus sack of Tom Brady today in the 4thQ could not get the Jacksonville a trip to the Super Bowl, but Stephon Gilmore with maybe a game saver, got the New England Pats to the Super Bowl. There is a old saying in sports "DON'T QUIT ON TALENT" and it is mind boggling all the talent the Bills gave away this year. I believed it's been repeated hundreds of times here, so I don't need to go into all the names, because you know who they are. For Cap space and Draft Choices? Why is it that the Pats never have these situations that hurt them? We even lost two guys off the practice squad to these guys this past season. Are the Pats that smarter? You all know the answer. I think the bold font makes your points seem smarter and absolutely incontrovertible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: If Rex keeps Schwartz that 2015 team was loaded for a run in the playoffs. Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Of course, no team makes PERFECT roster decisions, but the Pats unfortunately make less. If you have not just come back from Mars you know why they traded J.G. Sure, without Brady and Belichick it is a different story, but they always have the right pieces. We traded for a crippled WR from Carolina who needs surgery, and how will he come back? He is also the guy who pushed off in the end zone for a 10 yard penalty that maybe cost us the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Say no to Dareus and Gilmore, yes too White lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, scribo said: Dareus was sitting on the sidelines when the Pats scored their winning TD. Tells me something that they had him out on the most important play of their season. He went off the field with an injury at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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