Fact: TT has led us to Jacksonville tomorrow

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Agree with this.  

 

 To the OP you are correct, he did earn a playoff berth while simultaneously manning a terrible (29th) offense that has us 9 point dogs in the wildcard playoff game.         

 

Time to step his game up if he doesn’t feel like packing boxes and perusing Zillow. 

I must agree to a degree.

 time to play playoff caliber ball. I though, think he is up for it. nothing to lose everything to win. I expect a different second half from the Bills offense regardless of score.
pedal to the metal...mash the Tin.. and all that !

21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Multiple? 

 

I'll take one.

shoot i was delighted with a playoff game 

 Woo Hoo !

[harv shitz]

3 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

for three long years i had to endure the ej lovers threads on bbmb ad nauseum until reality finally......became reality.

 

then on here where i'm supposed to be a low life bbmb refugee, i see three years of the taylor lovers spewing greatness over a qb who, if not for an andy dalton miracle would be nothing more than an upcoming roster bonus discussion. i went to bat for tt early on when the season started and before, but saw that i was wrong and he is what he is and it ain't good.....or any where near it. reality is knocking on the door.

 

but , we are a day away from playing the first playoff game since 99 and people are starting and adding to pages of pukeworthy taylor love/nate hate discussions is unbelievable.

 

 

You couldn't be more accurate, Redneck.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

I must agree to a degree.

 time to play playoff caliber ball. I though, think he is up for it. nothing to lose everything to win. I expect a different second half from the Bills offense regardless of score.
pedal to the metal...mash the Tin.. and all that !

the mantra was ‘Playoff Caliber.’ Now that the Bills have reached the postseason, that motto has been upgraded.

 

”Championship Caliber” 

http://yi.nzc.am/BJyED

[3rdand12]

4 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

No he can't.  But he can sure stand in there, extend plays and throw 5 TDs and for 500+ yards tho...you know...like 3 games worth of stats for TT in one game...

I was speaking about Tyrod. He has tools. 

 Team game.

 Coaching helps.
dubyas  is how you define the team at the end of the season. So far so good for Taylor and McBeane

8 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

for three long years i had to endure the ej lovers threads on bbmb ad nauseum until reality finally......became reality.

 

then on here where i'm supposed to be a low life bbmb refugee, i see three years of the taylor lovers spewing greatness over a qb who, if not for an andy dalton miracle would be nothing more than an upcoming roster bonus discussion. i went to bat for tt early on when the season started and before, but saw that i was wrong and he is what he is and it ain't good.....or any where near it. reality is knocking on the door.

 

but , we are a day away from playing the first playoff game since 99 and people are starting and adding to pages of pukeworthy taylor love/nate hate discussions is unbelievable.

 

 

I have YET to see Anyone say Taylor is great. ever

and why the hate dude ?

[Albwan]

I saw people saying earlier that tt was definately way better than mariota...

when has tt ever did what mariota did tonight

[billsredneck1]

10 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

I was speaking about Tyrod. He has tools. 

 Team game.

 Coaching helps.
dubyas  is how you define the team at the end of the season. So far so good for Taylor and McBeane

I have YET to see Anyone say Taylor is great. ever

and why the hate dude ?

there's no hate. you missed the part where i said i went to bat for tt at the beginning...but  he actually seemed to have gone backwards. i just don't get the constant tt praise/nate hate threads right before our playoff game. i hope he does well.

Edited January 7, 2018 by billsredneck1

[BigDingus]

2 hours ago, Jasovon said:

He is a playoff calibre QB by definition, he couldn't get us here on his own but he does have a winning record as a QB and i'd rather have him than Blake freaking Bortles tomorrow.

 

Blake Bortles has 6 4th Qtr comebacks in 4 years, which is ranked 169th all-time. 

Tyrod Taylor has 3, and is ranked 232 (dead last), tied with 46 others including JP Losman, JaMarcus Russell, Tom Savage, Heath Shuler & Kelly Holcomb.

 

Bortles also passes for way more yards & more TD's (also more INT's), but not a huge amount. The most INT's he's every thrown is 18, but in the same season had 35 TD's. The most TD's TT has ever thrown for is 20 in his first year...then 17...then 14.

 

Bortles averages 3,700+ yards a season, with 4,428 his top. TT averages 2,952 with his highest being 3,035. 

Bortles is ranked 17th in YPA with 7.05, while TT is ranked 23rd with 6.66 (IT'S A SIGN!)

 

Bortles is ranked 12th in total QBR with 55.4 while TT is ranked 15th with 53.1.

 

TT has a 62.6% completion percentage while Bortles has a 60.2%. 

I don't even think Bortles is a better or worse QB, I just rather have him in the playoffs as he definitely can put the game on his shoulders, can come from behind if needed, and can move the ball & score points, whereas if the Bills go down at any point you know TT cannot will them to victory. He's 3-21 all time when we go down by a single point in the 4th Qtr, so is that 170 yards & 1 TD really going to be enough to win in the playoffs? Is being last in the league in 3 & outs going to get us anywhere if the defense isn't dominant? 

If our defense was the same as 2014, I'd be fine with TT. But they're not that dominant. The only times we do win however are win they play insanely well & gift the offense a bunch of turnovers. If the Jags are just going to run it and pass sparingly, we're boned. If we had somebody who could chuck the ball around we might be able to stay in it and keep scoring. But if they go on long, 60+ yard drives running the ball, TT is the last QB you want back there. Going 3 & out and sending the defense right back out there just ends up snowballing, getting them more & more tired while the opponent chews up clock & sets the score further out of reach.

[Buffalo Boy]

DeShaun Watson had 19 TD and 8 pics in seven games.

 

[Mrbojanglezs]

Andy Dalton led us to Jacksonville

[3rdand12]

27 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

there's no hate. you missed the part where i said i went to bat for tt at the beginning...but  he actually seemed to have gone backwards. i just don't get the constant tt praise/nate hate threads right before our playoff game. i hope he does well.

 Hope they All do.

 Go Bills

 

[Bangarang]

What’s crazier? Thinking Tyrod led us to the playoffs or that a Tyrod thread would get 0 replies?

[Teddy KGB]

1 hour ago, Foreigner said:

 

 

This thread was supposed to stop all the Peterman cheerleaders , but it has turned out to be

a typical TT hate thread, so be it

 

When he stops sucking we will stop “hating” 

 

Why didn’t you start a thread praising Jordan Mills for being 29th best RT ? 

[JPP]

Im just hoping our 20th ranked or something Defence and our 20th ranked or something Offence can pull it off......how about that...lets just get behind our ENTIRE team and hope for a good showing.......

[zonabb]

Despite an abysmal year by TT, this team is in the playoffs. If you want to attribute it to TT because you think he's better than a CFL QB, that's your right. By St Patty's Day, the team will have decided what the educated fan (the one who watches a QB who can't throw a WR/TE open; who makes horrible decisions [running OB on 4th and 2th from the 4th instead of throwing it]; who can't make progressions; who 3 OC have limited his ability to audible and on and on) knows, this isn't a starting NFL QB. I just watched Mariota make a TD throw to Decker that TT has never made. See ya TT, nice knowing you.

 

The key measure of a QB when facing a team with a great run D in the playoffs, on the road, is can you take over and win the game? Tomorrow I suspect we'll see TT do TT things. Suck.

Edited January 7, 2018 by zonabb

[JPP]

35 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

What’s crazier? Thinking Tyrod led us to the playoffs or that a Tyrod thread would get 0 replies?

0 threads would be my bet...lol.....

[Bing Bong]

and he got cheated out of the chargers. Still pissed at McDermott, but rookie HCs better lear.

[KDIGGZ]

a good defense with a lot of takeaways and some luck led us to the playoffs.  Tyrod has played well enough to not screw it up too bad

[BillsMedia]

Dont say things like that on this message board, these lames hates facts here!

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

I give you an A for effort. You are a persistent person. As I have said earlier this year... I like Tyrod as a person BUT I cant stand the mediocrity he represents. He most likely will NOT be back here next year.

But that was not his question.  I agree with OP...TT is one of the main reasons we made it to the Post Season. I don't know if Nate would have taken us there, but the fact is TT did.  I hope Nate works out for the long term for this franchise (He did play pretty good in the snow bowl before hurting himself). Before we jump and give our defense a lot of credit,  do remember this defense leaks against the run crazy.   TT has protected the football and make the couple of plays necessary enroute to a 4-2 record in the final six games.

[aceman_16]

3 minutes ago, ganesh said:

But that was not his question.  I agree with OP...TT is one of the main reasons we made it to the Post Season. I don't know if Nate would have taken us there, but the fact is TT did.  I hope Nate works out for the long term for this franchise (He did play pretty good in the snow bowl before hurting himself). Before we jump and give our defense a lot of credit,  do remember this defense leaks against the run crazy.   TT has protected the football and make the couple of plays necessary enroute to a 4-2 record in the final six games.

Understood... however with that logic I can say Kyle Williams, Shady, Zay Jones, etc lead us here.  Please dont twist being a starter with carrying a team on his back. I can not recall ONE game this year Tyrod has carried the team on his back for a win. Moreover, TO ME that is what the OP is implying and it simply did not happen.

Edited January 7, 2018 by aceman_16

[twoandfourteen]

4 hours ago, Foreigner said:

This thread is not about tomorrow, not about draft day next April, it is about what the title says.

If anyone thinks we would be in Jacksonville if our #2 QB Nathan Peterman would have led us

there, feel free to comment, but I am expecting 0 replies to this. 

The first line should have been this thread is not about next year-sorry about that.

 

Tyrod led the team to the point where they could benefit from someone like Andy Dalton actually making a heroic clutch throw.

 

That officially put the Bills in the playoffs.

 

But yes, you are correct -- Tyrod did lead them to the point where they needed lots of help to get in. 

 

Now, one could reasonably expect that if the Bills had a QB who was actually capable of running even the 25th ranked passing offense in the NFL, they would have won at least 1 or 2 more games and put themselves in the Wild Card. 

 

But hey, the Bills are in and it's going to be a great day tomorrow no matter what. They either beat the Jags and it's on to New England or it's the last time we have to see 5 under center for the Bills. 

 

Win-win! 

 

 

35 minutes ago, zonabb said:

Despite an abysmal year by TT, this team is in the playoffs. If you want to attribute it to TT because you think he's better than a CFL QB, that's your right. By St Patty's Day, the team will have decided what the educated fan (the one who watches a QB who can't throw a WR/TE open; who makes horrible decisions [running OB on 4th and 2th from the 4th instead of throwing it]; who can't make progressions; who 3 OC have limited his ability to audible and on and on) knows, this isn't a starting NFL QB. I just watched Mariota make a TD throw to Decker that TT has never made. See ya TT, nice knowing you.

 

The key measure of a QB when facing a team with a great run D in the playoffs, on the road, is can you take over and win the game? Tomorrow I suspect we'll see TT do TT things. Suck.

 

[FearLess Price]

 

4 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I'm trying to think of how many QB's could've thrown for 2,799 and 14 TD's this season and their are too many to post. If anything this team made up for poor QB play with opportunistic defensive turnovers, strong running game and good ST.

 

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This has to be KILLING you on the inside!! You must have been so pissed when the Bills made the playoffs.

 

 

You are such a cot hater cutulu

 

You will always remember tyrod  was our qb that broke the drought even when mcderm hit him with a steel chair and NP tried to stealth tank and we still madenit in at 9-7.

Feeeeeel it.

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

Andy Dalton led us to Jacksonville

This is the truth.  

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

What’s crazier? Thinking Tyrod led us to the playoffs or that a Tyrod thread would get 0 replies?

 

Umm. Is this a trick question? 

 

1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

and he got cheated out of the chargers. Still pissed at McDermott, but rookie HCs better lear.

Who got cheated?  

Taylor?   Not starting actually was to his benefit.  He isn’t charged with the loss.   

 

 

In truth with that 3 game suck fest Bills fans were cheated.   

[Fadingpain]

6 hours ago, Foreigner said:

This thread is not about tomorrow, not about draft day next April, it is about what the title says.

If anyone thinks we would be in Jacksonville if our #2 QB Nathan Peterman would have led us

there, feel free to comment, but I am expecting 0 replies to this. 

The first line should have been this thread is not about next year-sorry about that.

Funny.

I felt it was more like Andy Dalton that led us to Jacksonville.

 

But for his miracle heroics, we are cleaning out our lockers and setting up winter vacation plans.

 

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

5 hours ago, harv shitz said:

Why are you pitting the two against each other? Peterman made two critical throws in the snow that TT wouldn't have even considered.

 

And, ponder this: Had the Dolphins cashed in on the final drive and won last week, the four points TT left on the field missing a wide open O'Leary would have been the difference. 

 

I don't see how some of you morons think he is a good quarterback. He misses way too many plays. And, I know, I know, he doesn't turn it over. I wouldn't turn it over, either, if I only threw it if a guys was open by 20 yards.

 

Love is blind....

[harv shitz]

What are you saying?

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, harv shitz said:

What are you saying?

 

Taylor fans get carried away 

[Kelly the Dog]

Who is this Taylor person you speak of. Did I miss something?

[harv shitz]

totally agree. 

 

[Teddy KGB]

3 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

and he got cheated out of the chargers. Still pissed at McDermott, but rookie HCs better lear.

 

By cheated you mean played terrible then demoted over poor play ? 

3 hours ago, BillsMedia said:

Dont say things like that on this message board, these lames hates facts here!

 

Only lames here are the cot fanboys like yourself.   

Edited January 7, 2018 by Teddy KGB

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Who is this Taylor person you speak of. Did I miss something?

[PromoTheRobot]

7 hours ago, Heitz said:

Yup, TT led us here all all by himself!  Extra caliente take!

 

We all know he didn't. And yet....

 

How often have I read here that QBs are solely responsible for the success or failures of their teams. So which is it? Are you saying those people have been pulling my leg all this time?

[BeginnersMind]

Tyrod has better numbers than Kelly most sesons. Different era for sure but I was surprised to see it. 

 

I don't see TT as the future but I have always liked him. Plays hard with a huge heart. Go to it today!

[unclepete]

14 hours ago, Foreigner said:

You are right, defense wins championships. So I guess we should ignore our 29th ranked run 

defense that gave up 22 rushing TDs and about 125 yards a game on the ground.

I think TT can throw for more yards in this game than the run defense gives up, so we should

have a chance.

People will ignore this. People will ignore Tyrod converting 3rd Downs and the offensive coordinator going super conservative in every 2nd half. Limited yes, but he isn’t as bad as some would lead you to believe 

[8-8 Forever?]

15 hours ago, Manther said:

Fact:TT led us to Jacksonville.  Agreed.

 

Could someone else have, maybe, maybe not.  But, TT did lead us here.

 

Sure, I will play the game and agree.

not sure TT is much of an on-field leader , or off field for that matter.   He's pretty much a cog in the wheel more than anything else, especially this year where rico has kept him in the pocket.   NFL is so much a team sport where all kinds of areas (game plan, health of key players, running game sets up the pass, etc.)  need to do well to win.   TT calls the plays that come into his helmet, then most of the time the other 10 guys better execute or they will fail.   He's probably not the guy who will save the day.   For example, if Jax gets out to a 14 - 0 lead today, the game is essentially over.  TT's a good player, but he can't bring a team back.. he simply doesn't have the skill set, moxie and creativity to do it.  

Edited January 7, 2018 by 8-8 Forever?

[BobbyC81]

Have you all noticed recently that for the set of scripted plays to start the game, Tyrod and the offense look so good? It’s the play calls after that that are usually the problem. Hopefully they can score a TD on the first drive

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:

Have you all noticed recently that for the set of scripted plays to start the game, Tyrod and the offense look so good? It’s the play calls after that that are usually the problem. Hopefully they can score a TD on the first drive

Actually no.  For most of the season they sucked on the scripted plays.  I think week 15 was their first opening drive TD?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Actually no.  For most of the season they sucked on the scripted plays.  I think week 15 was their first opening drive TD?

 

...oddly, I think it was Mularkey's 2004 team that set the club record for opening drive scores..............

[BillnutinHouston]

16 hours ago, Foreigner said:

You are right, defense wins championships. So I guess we should ignore our 29th ranked run 

defense that gave up 22 rushing TDs and about 125 yards a game on the ground.

I think TT can throw for more yards in this game than the run defense gives up, so we should

have a chance.

 

Since we're talking rankings, you'll find your fearless leader down at the bottom of this chart:

Net Passing Yards Leaders

RK	TEAM	ATT	COMP	PCT	YDS	YDS/A	LONG	TD	INT	SACK	YDSL	RATE	YDS/G
1	LA Chargers	583	366	62.8	4431	7.8	75	28	11	18	120	95.1	277
2	New England	587	389	66.3	4418	7.9	64	32	8	35	201	102.6	276
3	Pittsburgh	590	384	65.1	4380	7.7	97	29	15	24	154	94.1	274
4	Tampa Bay	605	378	62.5	4366	7.6	70	26	14	40	241	90.6	273
5	New Orleans	536	386	72.0	4189	8.1	54	23	8	20	145	103.9	262
6	Detroit	570	374	65.6	4183	7.8	71	29	11	47	287	98.4	261
7	Kansas City	543	363	66.9	4104	8.0	79	26	8	37	222	100.8	257
8	Atlanta	530	343	64.7	3990	7.8	88	21	12	24	156	92.4	249
9	San Francisco	607	362	59.6	3925	7.0	83	15	15	43	310	78.8	245
10	LA Rams	518	320	61.8	3831	7.8	94	28	7	28	192	98.3	239
11	Minnesota	527	357	67.7	3753	7.5	65	25	8	27	176	99.1	235
12	Washington	540	347	64.3	3751	7.6	74	27	13	41	342	93.9	234
13	Philadelphia	564	341	60.5	3737	7.0	72	38	9	36	230	97.6	234
14	Seattle	555	340	61.3	3657	7.2	74	34	12	43	322	94.4	229
15	Arizona	598	339	56.7	3640	6.7	52	21	18	52	339	76.2	228
16	Oakland	558	347	62.2	3631	6.7	87	23	14	24	130	85.3	227
17	Jacksonville	527	316	60.0	3593	7.1	75	21	13	24	123	84.4	225
18	Miami	602	373	62.0	3535	6.3	65	24	21	33	257	78.7	221
19	NY Giants	608	373	61.3	3479	6.1	77	20	14	34	201	79.8	217
20	Denver	566	332	58.7	3333	6.5	54	19	22	52	335	73.0	208
21	Houston	525	299	57.0	3278	6.9	72	28	17	54	366	82.7	205
22	Cleveland	574	312	54.4	3228	6.2	56	15	28	50	309	61.4	202
23	Tennessee	496	306	61.7	3191	6.8	75	14	17	35	203	77.1	199
24	NY Jets	510	323	63.3	3182	6.9	69	19	12	47	319	86.1	199
25	Green Bay	562	352	62.6	3167	6.3	72	25	18	51	365	81.9	198
26	Dallas	493	309	62.7	3141	6.7	81	22	13	32	185	86.3	196
27	Cincinnati	510	304	59.6	3122	6.6	77	25	12	40	264	86.0	195
28	Carolina	501	293	58.5	3077	6.6	64	22	16	35	242	79.8	192
29	Baltimore	567	363	64.0	3030	5.7	66	20	13	27	205	81.4	189
30	Indianapolis	487	285	58.5	2892	6.6	80	13	9	56	334	79.6	181
31	Buffalo	476	289	60.7	2825	6.5	47	16	10	47	261	82.1	177
32	Chicago	473	291	61.5	2811	6.5	70	13	12	39	274	79.1	176

[Buffalo Boy]

23 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

      Might I add, When is the last time the AFC looked this weak?

      A flukey season that ended in a really gratifying “ back door” entry.

      I want them to win tomorrow but don’t expect them to because without Shady at full strength TT will have to be a QB.

      Let’s see how that goes and then we can revisit this homage to “ Tyrod the Magnificent “

And 17-37 for 134 0 TD 1 Int 27 yards rushing.

Woo Freaking Hoo