zow2 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Well they don’t have any. Against Buffalo 2 for 10 yds, against Pittsburgh last weekend 2 for 4 yds. They are perfect... like cyborgs playing football. No holding, no blocks in back, no PI, no illegal substitutions, no hands in anyone’s face. Just perfect. In a sport where there is holding on every play Absurd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Yeah - there is something going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Sorry not blaming refs one bit. We have had our fair share of breaks this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 CHANGE THIS MISLEADING TITLE!! THERE WERE NO BLEEPING CHEATS PENALTIES!! The NFL said so. No holding ever, no blocks in the back, nothing. NOTHING, I TELL YOU!!! ZERO, ZIP, NADA!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 As soon as the touchdown was overturned with no irrefutable evidence to do so, I knew the fix was in. Tin foil hats or whatever, but where there's smoke, there's fire. It's not as if the Patriots have a pristine record when it comes to playing by the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, McNubbins said: As soon as the touchdown was overturned with no irrefutable evidence to do so, I knew the fix was in. Tin foil hats or whatever, but where there's smoke, there's fire. It's not as if the Patriots have a pristine record when it comes to playing by the rules. Was the Fix in when Bills OPI wasnt called in MIA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: Was the Fix in when Bills OPI wasnt called in MIA? Nah, but we probably paid Cutler to throw all those picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 They called some meaningless penalties against the Cheaters after the game was out of hand. The NFL deserves its decline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, McNubbins said: Nah, but we probably paid Cutler to throw all those picks. I guess i just dont blame the refs because the Bills have had their fair share of breaks all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Points affected by ref calls NE +3 on borderline PI call Buf -4 on KB reversal NE +3 on 1st down reversal NE +7 on end zone PI I stopped caring after NE killed us in the 4th. Not the reason Buffalo lost but a factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Sorry not blaming refs one bit. We have had our fair share of breaks this season There were bad calls that affected this game...plus they got the rule wrong on overturned 4th down play "Also, if a play breaks the plane on a non- touchdown but also pulls it back, then it’s the end result spot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, nucci said: There were bad calls that affected this game...plus they got the rule wrong on overturned 4th down play "Also, if a play breaks the plane on a non- touchdown but also pulls it back, then it’s the end result spot." Big deal there were calls that went the Bills way that affected OTHER games they won. So what is the point. Fact is they were and will continue to be outclassed until parts of the team are fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 You have to get good enough so that bad luck and and bad breaks don’t matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, zow2 said: Points affected by ref calls NE +3 on borderline PI call Buf -4 on KB reversal NE +3 on 1st down reversal NE +7 on end zone PI I stopped caring after NE killed us in the 4th. Not the reason Buffalo lost but a factor Why the eff wasn't gronks td reviewed? Watch the replay his toe certainly looks very, very close to the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 That was a true catch of the century by Gronk as he got three feet inbounds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Success said: Yeah - there is something going on. Gee ya think...NPL.... National Patriot League Nantz, Romo, and every CB'S announcer at halftime said it was a td. I guess Kraft runs the league now over Jerry Jones. Edited December 24, 2017 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, Doc said: They called some meaningless penalties against the Cheaters after the game was out of hand. The NFL deserves its decline. And why I wont be re-newing seasons next year. Watered down corrupt product. The pats going into the 4th had 1 penalty for 5 yards. They had holds, pushing off’s etc..The Benjamin overturn sealed the deal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 I thought Gronks catch was the perfect play to let the call on the field stand. It was not obvious from replay that his toenail was on the white. So let it stand as a TD. The same call should have been made for Benjamin. Let it stand. Not enough to overturn what the ref viewed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, nucci said: There were bad calls that affected this game...plus they got the rule wrong on overturned 4th down play "Also, if a play breaks the plane on a non- touchdown but also pulls it back, then it’s the end result spot." That is the rule? I had never heard that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 There were so many missed calls it makes me ill. I know every game has missed calls, but if you look at the larger picture an image emerges. It’s like coach K, the whiner of the hard court. Little Tommy expects to get every call. I saw some ridiculous holds and blocks in the back that get called on us. The PI and TD calls were a joke. I’m not a tin foil hat guy, but at times I wonder. ZERO excuse for overruling the called TD. I wish we had kept it close so it would get more scrutiny nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Sorry not blaming refs one bit. We have had our fair share of breaks this season I think the point is the Pats’ share is more than fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaii50 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Gotta beat the Pats and the Refs. Refs killed Bills momentum and took the game away. League clearly wants Pats in the Super Bowl and home field advantage. Don't forget it is an entertainment product and ratings are key! Thats why replays are done at corporate HQ in NYC instead of on field. Not a conspiracy nut but it is happening to often to discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I knew we were in for a bad afternoon after Pitts blew up the opening kickoff while simultaneously getting blocked in the back. No call of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 58 minutes ago, McNubbins said: As soon as the touchdown was overturned with no irrefutable evidence to do so, I knew the fix was in. Tin foil hats or whatever, but where there's smoke, there's fire. It's not as if the Patriots have a pristine record when it comes to playing by the rules. IMHO .... the fix today has nothing to do with the Pats* ... the fix is in to get the Chargers into the playoffs. The way I see it is that having two teams in the playoffs would be a GREAT way to kick off LAs new teams .... and generate fan interest along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Today was even a bigger joke than the no flag on the Gronk hit on White a few weeks back. This era of New England Patriots football may be the most helped by referees in the history of professional sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I guess i just dont blame the refs because the Bills have had their fair share of breaks all season Not blaming the refs for the Bills loss but it's just really annoying that the Pats seem to get every single close call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Big deal there were calls that went the Bills way that affected OTHER games they won. So what is the point. Fact is they were and will continue to be outclassed until parts of the team are fixed I'm talking about this specific game, not the season in general. 2 calls that affected the outcome of the game. it is a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Big deal there were calls that went the Bills way that affected OTHER games they won. So what is the point. Fact is they were and will continue to be outclassed until parts of the team are fixed just talking about today's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Why wasnt the chain gang brought out to measure that 4th down but they just said he had the first based on video? Edited December 25, 2017 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, nucci said: I'm talking about this specific game, not the season in general. 2 calls that affected the outcome of the game. it is a big deal And if there isnt 2 calls that broke the Bills way eariler snd the lose it doesnt. See in the end it is a wash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: And if there isnt 2 calls that broke the Bills way eariler snd the lose it doesnt. See in the end it is a wash you can rationalize anything if you try hard enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Best Player Available said: Why the eff wasn't gronks td reviewed? Watch the replay his toe certainly looks very, very close to the line. It was reviewed, and he had possession when his two feet hit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, nucci said: you can rationalize anything if you try hard enough That’s what then refs said on the Benjamin TD! Were you sitting in that corner to hear that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Points affected by ref calls NE +3 on borderline PI call Buf -4 on KB reversal NE +3 on 1st down reversal NE +7 on end zone PI I stopped caring after NE killed us in the 4th. Not the reason Buffalo lost but a factor 2. Benjamin TD should have stood 3. It looked like he got the forward progress to the spot. But someone on here said the rule is different. 4. That was a blatant PI. the Bills played hard for the first half and should have had the lead at half. But they vanished in the second half, did the Patriots Punt once in the second half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: It was reviewed, and he had possession when his two feet hit down. All Td's are reviewed. My point was it did not take the time Benjamins did. yet was very, very close IMO. Go away and gloat on a pats board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Best Player Available said: All Td's are reviewed. My point was it did not take the time Benjamins did. yet was very, very close IMO. Go away and gloat on a pats board. Ahh I mis understood you.. and Benjamin took so long since they needed time and ball spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: 2. Benjamin TD should have stood 3. It looked like he got the forward progress to the spot. But someone on here said the rule is different. 4. That was a blatant PI. the Bills played hard for the first half and should have had the lead at half. But they vanished in the second half, did the Patriots Punt once in the second half? Yes, the WR clearly wrapped up the DB who was attempting to turn for the ball. 7 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Ahh I mis understood you.. and Benjamin took so long since they needed time and ball spot. The clock should have stopped regardless, and the chains had no reason to move. Do you have another convicted felon on the staff? The snow plow guy has been promoted??? Edited December 25, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Augie said: Yes, the WR clearly wrapped up the DB who was attempting to turn for the ball. The clock should have stopped regardless, and the chains had no reason to move. Do you have another convicted felon on the staff? The snow plow guy has been promoted??? If you think the WR was the PI person then you no nothing about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: If you think the WR was the PI person then you no nothing about football. I do KNOW that was the worst officiated game I’ve seen in a decade. Oh, shockingly, it all happened to go in Whiney Tom’s favor. Why do you even come here? Do the other chowder heads shun you? Tommy and Bill will be gone soon, just like the bandwagon fans. (NOT saying you ar one of the 90%.) Edited December 25, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Sorry not blaming refs one bit. We have had our fair share of breaks this season And fair share of screw overs too...at best they offset. At worst they favor the ofher team...against the Pats its not even close. This game was a travesty of officiating. 8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: If you think the WR was the PI person then you no nothing about football. I know plenty about football and I see Hyde turning his head and getting tackled by the receiver coming back to the ball...well that's cool but Hyde also has the right to try and get to the ball as well...its not just the reciever who can go for the ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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