ctk232 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 59 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have to believe it's Coach Speak....gotta defend your players in the press conference. I can't believe for a second he really believes in these guys. He's not an idiot. He will try to replace them in the offseason. Thank you - he isn't an idiot. Though I do believe he supports both Tolbert and Ducasse, and every other player this board has a gripe with starting (rightly so). But no HC would openly hang their players out to dry without calling instability/media "crisis" rhetoric into question, which kills seasons more quickly than TT and porous line play. It would help if he added in more sincere "we will evaluate these positions" moving forward, but doubt anything comes of it this season. Tolbert may be around next year as a locker room guy, but many of these guys will be either let go or not starting here next season. I doubt McD see these guys as integral building blocks for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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White Linen Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Sure. Unless your QB is Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers your not winning a game like that with the way the defense played yesterday. 20 straight runs or something to that effect. Are you kidding? Drew Brees can definitely still win that type of game. He'd done it many many times in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Its week 11, if you dont know what you do best by now you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Lawd, Rico.....I'd like to see the All-22 footage or any coverage of those 3rd down plays to see what was called. Have to believe Rico is partially responsible for these 3rd Down checkdowns to Tolbert/O'Leary for 5-7 yds when we're 3rd & 15, as much as TT is. Also can't believe he calls Castillo to seek insight into our run game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Its week 11, if you dont know what you do best by now you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL. Pretty bad for sure, but after the last two weeks they have to reassess because it has been stuffed at the LOS with very few exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Its week 11, if you dont know what you do best by now you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL. It’s scary that Dennison is still figuring this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I listened to McDermott’s remarks to the press immediately following the game yesterday... He was in shock... sounded timid... confused... unsure.... Today after a night’s sleep, he sounds more like the McDermott prior to yeterday’s humiliation... Confident, certain, and positive... He attributes the failure to fundamentals and technique... not effort.... He never mentioned poor game plan... poor preparation... poor coaching... Think he is in denial... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I am willing to give McD a pass for this season as this is what he inherited. After this year with a new GM, new scouts and a year under his belt I will expect better is year 2. McD and Beane seem to have a good head for this and come well credentialed. We have been teased with playoffs and that is what drives a lot of the frustration as we have fallen for that before (Yes we Chan). So long as McD doesn't pull the crap Rex did I will give him three to five years to change the team and the culture and get the Bills back to playoff football. The Chargers game is going to be a Waterloo situation; lose and you're at 5-5 and probably have missed the exit for the playoffs. If he wants to win now, he will probably start TT and give him a quarter+. If the offense sputters again I think he will have to pull TT for a series or two just to see what the kid can do. If Peterman falters, you haven't destroyed him and can pull him back out and use it as a growth experience; and maybe light a fire under Tyrod. If he did well, then you play the hot hand. All easy decisions from the armchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is scary. I don't think Dennison and McD know what they are doing now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, ctk232 said: Lawd, Rico.....I'd like to see the All-22 footage or any coverage of those 3rd down plays to see what was called. Have to believe Rico is partially responsible for these 3rd Down checkdowns to Tolbert/O'Leary for 5-7 yds when we're 3rd & 15, as much as TT is. Also can't believe he calls Castillo to seek insight into our run game... Isn't he the run game coordinator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: If the next game involves Tyrod option to Tolbert I'm going to throw the TV out the window That was more fun when we had tube TVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, DCBongo said: I am willing to give McD a pass for this season as this is what he inherited. After this year with a new GM, new scouts and a year under his belt I will expect better is year 2. McD and Beane seem to have a good head for this and come well credentialed. We have been teased with playoffs and that is what drives a lot of the frustration as we have fallen for that before (Yes we Chan). So long as McD doesn't pull the crap Rex did I will give him three to five years to change the team and the culture and get the Bills back to playoff football. The Chargers game is going to be a Waterloo situation; lose and you're at 5-5 and probably have missed the exit for the playoffs. If he wants to win now, he will probably start TT and give him a quarter+. If the offense sputters again I think he will have to pull TT for a series or two just to see what the kid can do. If Peterman falters, you haven't destroyed him and can pull him back out and use it as a growth experience; and maybe light a fire under Tyrod. If he did well, then you play the hot hand. All easy decisions from the armchair. No it isn't. He made decisions on who to keep, who to jettison, and who to acquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Its week 11, if you dont know what you do best by now you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL. My thoughts as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it isn't. He made decisions on who to keep, who to jettison, and who to acquire. True, but there are limits to that in your first year. Consider the team Marv started with wasn't the same one on the field in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) I like Sean but I sure wish we had someone I trust on the coaching staff offensively to help select our QB in the draft. Edited November 13, 2017 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Curious as to what all the armchair HCs would be saying instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 If Dennison wants to know what we do best watch some tape from last year but shouldn't he have done that already? If he was interested in scoring points he would have taken last years run game and added some route variation to the passing game and called it a day. As it is he's single handedly stopped our running game which effectively cripples everything else because our offense fed off the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it isn't. He made decisions on who to keep, who to jettison, and who to acquire. and it's back fired on his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclynrea21 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) I't shocking that a nfl team goes eighteen years without seeing a playoff game...stupid stupid...team Edited November 13, 2017 by jaclynrea21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commish Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Murphy or Brown made the comment this afternoon that the vets would not be happy switching from Taylor to Peterman, but is that really true. If the vets believe Peterman would give them the best opportunity to win, wouldn't they be ready to move on, loyalty to Taylor be damned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The quote about the baseball pitcher was the most concerning thing about this presser....it made me believe that McDermott still thinks Taylor will develop into a franchise quarterback. Someone should tell him that Taylor has been in the league for seven years and it is just not going to happen. Also, don't get the love for Tolbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, jkirchofer said: The quote about the baseball pitcher was the most concerning thing about this presser....it made me believe that McDermott still thinks Taylor will develop into a franchise quarterback. Someone should tell him that Taylor has been in the league for seven years and it is just not going to happen. Also, don't get the love for Tolbert. McD, Dennison and Beane are there own worst enemies right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Peterman stuff was at the end of a finished game. It meant nothing so stop singing praises. Our line play on both sides was terrible. TT had little to do with this defeat. NO had our number. admit it and move on. Amazing how fast some get off the wagon. Edited November 13, 2017 by Direhard Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, dneveu said: Isn't he the run game coordinator? Not only is that, in and of itself, an issue, but as the Offensive Coordinator, you should understand by this point in the season what is effective in your run game and what isn't. Considering it's half of all offensive football, and specifically what this team's offense has been predicated on for the past couple years. This is different than a simple, "hey Juan, let's get together and discuss the run game" in so many words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Direhard Fan said: Peterman stuff was at the end of a finished game. It meant nothing so stop singing praises. Our line play on both sides was terrible. TT had little to so with this defeat. NO had our number. admit it and move on. Amazing how fast some get off the wagon. That is an unfair statement. The only reason any of us are still here posting on this forum is because we can't find our way off the wagon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Direhard Fan said: Peterman stuff was at the end of a finished game. It meant nothing so stop singing praises. Our line play on both sides was terrible. TT had little to do with this defeat. NO had our number. admit it and move on. Amazing how fast some get off the wagon. Just because our defense was terrible doesn't mean Taylor wasn't. He was as bad as the defense yesterday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: By highlight reel you mean the video of all his throws, right? I suppose you could call that video a highlight reel which is kind of the point. It's all relative. I thought Peterman's incompletions were highlights compared to the other stuff we saw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Anyone know who our coach is going to be next year? Edited November 13, 2017 by PIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Not only is that, in and of itself, an issue, but as the Offensive Coordinator, you should understand by this point in the season what is effective in your run game and what isn't. Considering it's half of all offensive football, and specifically what this team's offense has been predicated on for the past couple years. This is different than a simple, "hey Juan, let's get together and discuss the run game" in so many words. I can see the conversation "Dennison How do we fix run game? " ' "Juan Play Vlad till he pukes. If we had a whole team of Vlad for O-Line we have a Super Bowl team" "Dennison Great idea that is how we do it! Gotta run Tolbert more and make him a WR by giving him 20 more targets a game" Juan " They will never expect that" Edited November 13, 2017 by Buffalo Bills Fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, DCBongo said: I am willing to give McD a pass for this season as this is what he inherited. After this year with a new GM, new scouts and a year under his belt I will expect better is year 2. McD and Beane seem to have a good head for this and come well credentialed. We have been teased with playoffs and that is what drives a lot of the frustration as we have fallen for that before (Yes we Chan). So long as McD doesn't pull the crap Rex did I will give him three to five years to change the team and the culture and get the Bills back to playoff football. The Chargers game is going to be a Waterloo situation; lose and you're at 5-5 and probably have missed the exit for the playoffs. If he wants to win now, he will probably start TT and give him a quarter+. If the offense sputters again I think he will have to pull TT for a series or two just to see what the kid can do. If Peterman falters, you haven't destroyed him and can pull him back out and use it as a growth experience; and maybe light a fire under Tyrod. If he did well, then you play the hot hand. All easy decisions from the armchair. I very much agree with your armchair assessment, esp. on the QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 41 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is the kind of coaching that you find too frequently in the NFL and it sucks. Translation for the coachspeak impaired = We're happy not turning it over and punting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Roch-A-Bill said: Murphy or Brown made the comment this afternoon that the vets would not be happy switching from Taylor to Peterman, but is that really true. If the vets believe Peterman would give them the best opportunity to win, wouldn't they be ready to move on, loyalty to Taylor be damned? I think the receivers would be happy with the switch. If the backup gives you a better chance to win, you play the new guy/backup. I'm not saying Peterman does, I'm saying that any vet that believes TT should play because they are "friends," or because TT "paid his dues" has issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 This is Jauron Ball, folks. We've seen this movie before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: The quote about the baseball pitcher was the most concerning thing about this presser....it made me believe that McDermott still thinks Taylor will develop into a franchise quarterback. Someone should tell him that Taylor has been in the league for seven years and it is just not going to happen. Also, don't get the love for Tolbert. I don't think McD believes that about Tyrod. I think he believes that in order to win this season and not have total anarchy in the locker room, you don't switch now. I also think that Tolbert must have damning "process" photos on McD. That has to be the only reason why this man is on the field, getting option tosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 36 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: It’s scary that Dennison is still figuring this out. Yes, it is. I'm not concerned about McDermott, he's not going to bad mouth his players to the press, that would be dumb. Dennison on the other hand is scaring me. Calling plays that require passes to Tolbert, is greatly disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 SEAN MCDERMOTT: "GETTING BACK TO WORK" (17:37) Head Coach Sean McDermott addressed the media Monday topics include; improving the run defense, correcting mistakes, and an injury update. QUICK HITS: TYROD STILL THE STARTER Head coach Sean McDermott is supporting his starting QB, urging a big picture perspective and re-committing his staff to teaching fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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