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At the owners meetings

https://amp.usatoday.com/story/806600001/

In a discussion about player protests during the national anthem, and the effects the protests were having on NFL business, McNair said, We cant have the inmates running the prison, according to a story by ESPNs Seth Wickersham and Don Van Natta. ESPN reported that NFL vice president of football operations, Troy Vincent, a longtime NFL player, was offended, and McNair later apologized personally.

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Texans WR DeAndre Hopkins absence from practice today was related to Bob McNairs comments, per source.

 

Texans players wanted to walkout today in response to owner Bob McNairs comments, per @sarahbarshop. Had to be persuaded to stay.

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At the owners meetings

https://amp.usatoday.com/story/806600001/

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Texans WR DeAndre Hopkins absence from practice today was related to Bob McNairs comments, per source.

 

Texans players wanted to walkout today in response to owner Bob McNairs comments, per @sarahbarshop. Had to be persuaded to stay.

I have a feeling this is going to end well.
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Dumb.

 

1. It's a figure of speech, although technically I think it goes "inmates running the asylum"

2. How horrible of McNair not wanting his employees staging protests on company time on company property. I totally respect the players right to protest anything they want, but do it on your own time in a public place. The teams and networks don't owe anyone that forum.

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Okay. So race is a hot button issue right now. Seems like folks are more comfortable lately voicing "controversial" opinions, and also folks are uber sensitive to such comments as well. I'm not trying to get all political here at all.

 

I don't know if McNair is a racist or not. What I do know is that he made a not so smart comment at a really bad time. I don't think the saying "we can't have the inmates running the prison" is racist, necessarily. I have heard it used at work (in schools) referring to classroom/school discipline. I think the Texans have something good going. Houston has also been devastated by tragedy. I hope this doesn't ruin their season.

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I guess players only feel players have free speech rights ?

Damn. I feel like freedom of speech not being the same as freedom of consequences shouldn't be hard for people to understand. Kneel and it may have adverse consequences. Equate NFL players to criminals, it may have adverse consequences. You're free to say and do anything you want; it doesn't mean you're free of any problems that it may create.

 

Understand now?

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Damn. I feel like freedom of speech not being the same as freedom of consequences shouldn't be hard for people to understand. Kneel and it may have adverse consequences. Equate NFL players to criminals, it may have adverse consequences. You're free to say and do anything you want; it doesn't mean you're free of any problems that it may create.

 

Understand now?

Except you are entitled to a starting QB job.

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Damn. I feel like freedom of speech not being the same as freedom of consequences shouldn't be hard for people to understand. Kneel and it may have adverse consequences. Equate NFL players to criminals, it may have adverse consequences. You're free to say and do anything you want; it doesn't mean you're free of any problems that it may create.

Understand now?

Good post ^^

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Good solution to the problem. Send more black guys to jail for unpaid parking tickets. ;)

what does race have to do with breaking the law. rule of law should prevail (even though it doesn't). regardless, noone should be put in jail for unpaid parking tickets. the penalty has to fit the crime. if someone can't pay their parking tickets they should lose their ability to drive or some such.

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Except you are entitled to a starting QB job.

Except you are entitled to a starting QB job.

Kapernick isn't a starting QB. He can however say he should be, despite him being awful and coming with a huge headache. He isn't however a starting quarterback and therefore not entitled to anything. Appreciate you though.

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what does race have to do with breaking the law. rule of law should prevail (even though it doesn't). regardless, noone should be put in jail for unpaid parking tickets. the penalty has to fit the crime. if someone can't pay their parking tickets they should lose their ability to drive or some such.

Force them to work at the DMV until the tickets are paid off. Kinda like washing dishes to pay a tab :D

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It's just an expression--yes, poor choice of words, but good grief...are the players really this thin-skinned?

Sadly, I believe this is just the social climate at present.

Hopefully the controversy spills over into their season and they fall further behind the Bills in the WC race

If we can't beat 'em on the field...beat 'em off ;)

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Sadly, I believe this is just the social climate at present.

 

Why is it sad though? How does it effect you?

 

Am I the only one that just doesn't care about this stuff? I keep seeing these threads get started on a weekly basis and 75% of you guys just talk in circles. I don't watch or follow football for it's politics. I also don't care if the players kneel. I don't care if there are flyovers. I watch football to be entertained by the sport, not by it's fans and their political persuasions. It's not like I don't have my own ideologies, but lately I have tried as hard as I can to separate them entirely from watching football.

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It's just an expression--yes, poor choice of words, but good grief...are the players really this thin-skinned?

as sticks said, it's the climate. A year ago or two this comment is forgotten.

Every week we get more and more people wanting to be victims. From the dude in Seattle to Hopkins.

If these big muscle bound retards think this is offensive, yet are willing to play in a league with Vontaze Burfact I think there is irony.

 

This whole situation is going to be fueled by the MSM and ESPN to create controversy

 

It's a bunch of bull ****. McNair should grow a pair and fine Hopkins and sit him this weekend. Make that inmate learn his place. And no, I'm not joking.

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In both cases there are some parties that don't get it.

 

Either way, this particular incident, to me, is a fairly sizable overreaction to a rather common and benign adage.

Agreed. I'm curious if he still would have been upset if he used the more common "inmates running the asylum" instead of prison.

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as sticks said, it's the climate. A year ago or two this comment is forgotten.

Every week we get more and more people wanting to be victims. From the dude in Seattle to Hopkins.

If these big muscle bound retards think this is offensive, yet are willing to play in a league with Vontaze Burfact I think there is irony.

 

This whole situation is going to be fueled by the MSM and ESPN to create controversy

 

It's a bunch of bull ****. McNair should grow a pair and fine Hopkins and sit him this weekend. Make that inmate learn his place. And no, I'm not joking.

 

What is a bunch of bull **** though? Look at how worked up you've gotten!

 

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I skipped over the text that I enlarged, but I felt like enlarging it to highlight how absolutely impossible it would be for Boyst and I to have a rational discussion on this issue. I'm not even angry at him, it's just...we have such a difference of opinion that I don't think it needs to be talked about in circles. I'm here to watch football and talk about it. The more of this crap I see and the more these incidents become overblown news stories, the less I want to spend even a minute of my time following the sport.

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This is ridiculous. Crazy how big this could become. Bad timing with the comment. I surely don't believe he meant it in "those terms". Sherman is awful. I wish he was the next player shunned by NFL owners and not given a contract.

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Why is it sad though? How does it effect you?

 

Am I the only one that just doesn't care about this stuff? I keep seeing these threads get started on a weekly basis and 75% of you guys just talk in circles. I don't watch or follow football for it's politics. I also don't care if the players kneel. I don't care if there are flyovers. I watch football to be entertained by the sport, not by it's fans and their political persuasions. It's not like I don't have my own ideologies, but lately I have tried as hard as I can to separate them entirely from watching football.

abyear and a half ago I didn't care. Then last year I finally had enough when I said I didn't care. I voiced my opinion in threads here and this was during the epic Beerball meltdown when only one voice was heard. After that I've not been shy to say this whole thing is as stupid of an event as can comem
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