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Did you notice the phrase "race-based slavery?"

 

Yeah. Slavery has existed probably to some degree since man has existed. We conquer lands and enslave people.

 

The triangle trade and specifically the raced based slavery involving the African race is a different animal and, probably with the exception of Jews, is largely unprecedented in human history.

 

But thank you for the history lesson.

You haven't studied much history, have you?

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He's the greatest Black QB ever for Bills! Let's make him the Only Playing Wall of Fame Player! Let's put him on Wall Of Fame!

When he delivers us a winning record and throws for 4000 extrapolated yards Id consider it. But until then I can think of better candidates.
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Ask Andy Dalton if Tyrod has it bad? That guy made the playoffs his first 4 years abd has actually done something in the league and still gets blasted constantly. Dalton cant win once he gets to the playoffs and is a running joke in most conversations. Tyrod doesnt even have to get there to keep his job for 3 years. How about Alex Smith? All that guy ever does is win. Yet because of the way he looks doing it, people act like he doesnt deserve the credit. The guy has done nothing wrong over the past 5 or 6 seasons but has his replacement standing on the sidelines. Not for nothing but how did that work in SF? Got Joe Flacco a ring...

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He's held to a higher standard for a number of reasons and the key underlying factor is race.

 

He was a later pick because he was black..........he was discounted entirely as an option by most teams in FA because he was seen as gimmick "athletic"(black) QB.

 

Those teams were wrong.

 

Now that he is here, color is a factor for some..........but even for those who it is NOT......their opinions of him are impacted by his low pedigree.........which is very much related to race.

 

I've touched on this subject a lot lately...........the WR corps he's been saddled with is epically bad..........if Matt Stafford were here and had thrown only 5 TD's but had 5 interceptions and 2 fumbles........a lot of the same people here on TSW that are dogging Taylor would be MAKING excuses for Stafford because he's a high pedigree QB who "looks" the part of a white franchise QB.

 

McDermott and Beane have badly handled the WR situation and it's had a ripple effect offensively.........it has caused them to lose two games.......it may cause Zay Jones to become a waste of draft picks(MORE value than what they got for Sammy)........it has taken a bite out of Shady McCoy's quest for the HOF..........and it's got Taylor openly talking about basically not being given the same opportunitiy/benefit of the doubt that a white QB would get.

 

Badol mighty is wrong, again.

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http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/14/bills-tyrod-taylor-believes-hes-held-to-a-higher-standard-because-hes-african-american/

 

Last year it was the media's fault when he sucked. Now he's being held to higher standard because he's black ?

 

He almost makes as many excuses as the fanatical taylorheads here. Try not being at the bottom of qb ranking lists. Leave the race nonsense alone.

 

"Haters" disappear when you're actually good at your craft like Cam, Jameis, Watson, and Wilson.

TT is a garbage gimmick QB end of story, does not matter if he were black or white is not good enough to win you games in the 4th quarter of games and that is a fact. The Bills need to move on after this season and stop paying him good money for garbage QB play.

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For the record, I read the Bills Wire piece before I posted and agree that the Bills Wire piece defended his position on mobile quarterbacks.

My point is that is a small portion of the longer article and not even in the first section. While that can be one takeaway from the article, the aggregation seems like it is the only takeaway and a complete story about race. That is not the case. Other quotes also can be found in the various social media promotion.

Here is a free link to the long piece:

http://buffalonews.com/2017/10/14/tyrod-taylor-unfiltered-win-everythings-great-lose-want-crucify/

Here is a free link to the additional quotes that cover a wide array of topics:

Http://buffalonews.com/2017/10/14/tyrod-Taylor-Unfiltered-bills-QB/

Judge for yourself based on the totality of the comments.

Thanks, Josh

Thanks Josh.

 

"When we win, everything's great. When we lose, they want to crucify me." Sounds like TT reads this board. :lol:

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This is just sad. Are you drinking?

 

Racism is a funny thing. It's undeniably prevalent in our society in many directions because humanity naturally fears what's different, but our country is one of the select few in history (maybe the only one...?) to implement a race based slavery that existed for hundreds of years and reverberated in policy for at least another century (this was merely half a century ago) and people hate it when anyone pulls the "race card" because... why exactly? We're so much better for the last 50 years than we were for the previous 500?

 

People who don't like the race card being pulled should seriously examine why they dislike it so much.

 

I'm not saying the race card always deserves to be pulled, but these types of reactions are always so disturbingly intriguing.

I don't like the race card being pulled when it's unfounded because it cheapens the real claims of racism. It's also a convenient excuse for why someone is criticized.

 

If TT thinks the criticism about his play is founded in race, he's a moron. That doesn't bode well.

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When he delivers us a winning record and throws for 4000 extrapolated yards Id consider it. But until then I can think of better candidates.

 

Sure, make up rules so only a white guy can meet your criteria, white guy.

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Tyrod is a better version of Flutie. (Completion percentage much higher, rushing 60% higher, TD/Int ratio astronomically higher, yards per game only a little less)

 

But somehow Flutie was beloved by many while Tryod at best gets a tepid, "He's OK for now."

 

Not sure it's racism but it doesn't make sense.

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Tyrod Taylor is black? I didnt know that

 

 

Tyrod better than Flutie? Silliness

 

And yet the numbers don't lie. Flutie's career numbers are 160 yards per game passing, 18 yards per game rushing, weak TD/INT ratio, 54% completion. Fun to watch but not a really good QB.

 

Objectively, I understand he was the last QB to take the Bills to the playoffs (Miracle season post-season bid goes to him) but he was not a great QB. That Bills era was led by Wade's defense.

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Flutie is a terrible example. That Bills team went to the playoffs which is all fans want. You are taking stats from a different era of football and they don't help either.

 

Peterman was a late round pick like TT. As was outlined on this site before preseason even begun, Peterman will have little opportunity to take the Bills job. He is a rookie behind Taylor and if TT failed to impress a new bigger, better prospect would be drafted, perhaps whiter, perhaps blacker.

 

If TT tore the league up he would have solidified his own spot and ensured Peterman a seat on the bench for future years. That is the life of a late round QB prospect. This is how the QB position is viewed, if you aren't getting the job done teams attempt to bring in someone better. Color is just an excuse, white/black if you are not good then look behind you because that's where your replacement is sitting.

 

Unless you put a choke hold on the starting position like Brady did then as a late round QB prospect you will spend your entire career silencing doubters and looking behind you. That's the life in the NFL.

 

The doubt was created by where the QB was drafted not by the color of his skin.

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The one comment hits the nail on the head: 1-11 in game winning comebacks. Is it a higher standard or is he just not good?

 

 

 

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

 

 

 

Imo

 

Packers are 0-35 with Aaron Rodgers at QB when trailing by more than one point in the fourth quarter against a team with a winning record.

 

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Rodgers has a 10-34 record at 4QC opportunities. Only two of the 10 wins came against teams with a winning record (2014 Cowboys in Dez Caught It game, 2015 Seahawks), and both of those were 1-point deficits erased early in the quarter.

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Packers are 0-35 with Aaron Rodgers at QB when trailing by more than one point in the fourth quarter against a team with a winning record.

 

ar035.jpg

 

Rodgers has a 10-34 record at 4QC opportunities. Only two of the 10 wins came against teams with a winning record (2014 Cowboys in Dez Caught It game, 2015 Seahawks), and both of those were 1-point deficits erased early in the quarter.

Is 10-34 greater than 1-11? Asking for a friend.

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lol, Is that what he said?

He was criticizing fans with the race card, his fans are Buffalo fans so yes I see it as a direct finger point at Buffalo.

 

Quote from article"Bills QB Tyrod Taylor believes he's 'held to a higher standard' because he's African-American"

 

Who is the one holding him to a higher standard? Well he works in Buffalo so that points the finger at Buffalo

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Packers are 0-35 with Aaron Rodgers at QB when trailing by more than one point in the fourth quarter against a team with a winning record.

 

 

 

Rodgers has a 10-34 record at 4QC opportunities. Only two of the 10 wins came against teams with a winning record (2014 Cowboys in Dez Caught It game, 2015 Seahawks), and both of those were 1-point deficits erased early in the quarter.

Thanks for your hard work here. Facts are always the best way to clear the air of flatulence-like opinion...

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Rodgers is also going to be probably the 2nd best QB of all time when he retires.

 

No one is even putting TT in the same universe. But you deflect the point made in order to perpetuate the nonsense.

Rodgers better get more than 1 ring for him to even be in the conversation.
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Buffalo has some racist, idiot fans (see PPP for example).

 

But honestly, I think Taylor has been treated as well as any qb in recent memory. Fitz and Losman got way more criticism. I actually am impressed with Bills fans because race is never really part of the Tyrod conversation.

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Tyrod is a better version of Flutie. (Completion percentage much higher, rushing 60% higher, TD/Int ratio astronomically higher, yards per game only a little less)

 

But somehow Flutie was beloved by many while Tryod at best gets a tepid, "He's OK for now."

 

Not sure it's racism but it doesn't make sense.

Flutie found a way to win a game at the end quite a bit. Tyrod hasn't really done that.

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http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/14/bills-tyrod-taylor-believes-hes-held-to-a-higher-standard-because-hes-african-american/

 

Last year it was the media's fault when he sucked. Now he's being held to higher standard because he's black ?

 

He almost makes as many excuses as the fanatical taylorheads here. Try not being at the bottom of qb ranking lists. Leave the race nonsense alone.

 

"Haters" disappear when you're actually good at your craft like Cam, Jameis, Watson, and Wilson.

 

Unreal. He should hold himself to a higher standard because he's a pro. The sport is dominated by black athletes anyway, so why would they be prejudiced against themselves. How about you play well TT and stop making stupid excuses.

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Rodgers is also going to be probably the 2nd best QB of all time when he retires.

 

No one is even putting TT in the same universe. But you deflect the point made in order to perpetuate the nonsense.

Maybe you shouldn't compare him to Rodgers then? Seems silly to invite a comparison between 1-11 and 10-34.

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