NewEra Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 And we were horrible Fixed. We played WAY worse than the officials officiated. We got dominated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Did you hear the announcers? Â Even that said the Refs were screwing with the flow of the game. Where was the call on the Zay trip!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Refs were horrible this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Where was the call on the Zay trip!? It was called. Â I didn't think the refs were much of a factor. Worst non-call was the blatant hold that was ignored on McCown's scrambling TD. Maybe should have called helmet-to-helmet on Lee's hit on TT. They made the right OPI call on ASJ that kept the Bills in the game. Edited November 3, 2017 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Funny I dont recall that from the game. Edited November 4, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) It was called. Â I didn't think the refs were much of a factor. Worst non-call was the blatant hold that was ignored on McCown's scrambling TD. Maybe should have called helmet-to-helmet on Lee's hit on TT. They made the right OPI call on ASJ that kept the Bills in the game. Â Tripping is a 15 yd pf. It was not called. 5yd holding was. Edited November 3, 2017 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Tripping is a 15 yd pf. It was not called. 5yd holding was.Yes, you are right. Should have called tripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Second time we've seen this crew this season, first was Bills at Falcons  Week 10 - Saints @ Bills  Replay: Earnie Frantz  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/McAuTe0r.htm R 77 Terry McAulay     U 54 Steve Woods     DJ 91 Jerry Bergman     LJ 101 Carl Johnson     FJ 72 Michael Banks     SJ 120 Jonah Monroe     BJ 39 Rich Martinez     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Second time we've seen this crew this season, first was Bills at Falcons  Week 10 - Saints @ Bills  Replay: Earnie Frantz  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/McAuTe0r.htm R 77 Terry McAulay     U 54 Steve Woods     DJ 91 Jerry Bergman     LJ 101 Carl Johnson     FJ 72 Michael Banks     SJ 120 Jonah Monroe     BJ 39 Rich Martinez     I believe he had the sunday nighter against OAK MIA this past week. Called a lot of penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I believe he had the sunday nighter against OAK MIA this past week. Called a lot of penalties  September 11, 2017 Denver Broncos Los Angeles Chargers Referee 21 4 40 24 3 62 September 17, 2017 Kansas City Chiefs Philadelphia Eagles Referee 20 4 30 27 5 40 September 24, 2017 New York Jets Miami Dolphins Referee 6 8 51 20 10 94 October 1, 2017 Atlanta Falcons Buffalo Bills Referee 23 9 55 17 4 45 October 8, 2017 Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers Referee 35 6 38 31 7 70 October 22, 2017 Cleveland Browns Tennessee Titans Referee 12 5 35 9 12 81 October 29, 2017 Seattle Seahawks Houston Texans Referee 38 8 93 41 10 120 November 5, 2017 Miami Dolphins Oakland Raiders Referee 27 10 105 24 11 107   looks like they only called 4 for 45 the last bills game they did.   correction. 9 for 55 Edited November 8, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Â September 11, 2017 Denver Broncos Los Angeles Chargers Referee 21 4 40 24 3 62 September 17, 2017 Kansas City Chiefs Philadelphia Eagles Referee 20 4 30 27 5 40 September 24, 2017 New York Jets Miami Dolphins Referee 6 8 51 20 10 94 October 1, 2017 Atlanta Falcons Buffalo Bills Referee 23 9 55 17 4 45 October 8, 2017 Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers Referee 35 6 38 31 7 70 October 22, 2017 Cleveland Browns Tennessee Titans Referee 12 5 35 9 12 81 October 29, 2017 Seattle Seahawks Houston Texans Referee 38 8 93 41 10 120 November 5, 2017 Miami Dolphins Oakland Raiders Referee 27 10 105 24 11 107 Â Â looks like they only called 4 for 45Â the last bills game they did. Â Â correction. 9 for 55 This isn't looking too promising lol. Let's hope they keep flags to a minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Bills @ Chargers  Replay: Jimmy Oldham  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/ParrJo0r.htm   R 132 John Parry     U 131 Mark Pellis     DJ 90 Mike Spanier     LJ 45 Jeff Seeman     FJ 118 David Meslow     SJ 7 Keith Washington     BJ 46 Perry Paganelli     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Just Jack said: Bills @ Chargers  Replay: Jimmy Oldham  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/ParrJo0r.htm   R 132 John Parry     U 131 Mark Pellis     DJ 90 Mike Spanier     LJ 45 Jeff Seeman     FJ 118 David Meslow     SJ 7 Keith Washington     BJ 46 Perry Paganelli     Ugh John Parry... one of THE worst out there. Be ready for lots of holding calls vs Bills and at least one roughing the passer PF early on. The Bills have a terrible record in games officiated by this guy. He's just as bad as Hochuli when it comes to wanting to " put his stamp on the game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Ugh John Parry... one of THE worst out there. Be ready for lots of holding calls vs Bills and at least one roughing the passer PF early on. The Bills have a terrible record in games officiated by this guy. He's just as bad as Hochuli when it comes to wanting to " put his stamp on the game". with a quick release .....  holding on passing downs should be down Thanks again Jack for keeping us up to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Thanks JJack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Ugh John Parry... one of THE worst out there. Be ready for lots of holding calls vs Bills and at least one roughing the passer PF early on. The Bills have a terrible record in games officiated by this guy. He's just as bad as Hochuli when it comes to wanting to " put his stamp on the game". Just looked at his numbers, seems like they are pretty average when it comes to throwing flags this year.  To your point though, he called a lot of penalties last year. We'll see what happens   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Jeff Seeman is the son of late referee Jerry Seeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Bills @ Chiefs  Replay: Lou Nazzaro  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/VinoBi0r.htm   R 52 Bill Vinovich     U 102 Bruce Stritesky     DJ 110 Phil McKinnely     LJ 9 Mark Perlman     FJ 89 Jon Lucivansky     SJ 60 Gary Cavaletto     BJ 78 Greg Meyer     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Pats* at Bills  Replay: Paul Weidner  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/SterGe0r.htm  R 114 Gene Steratore     U 81 Roy Ellison     DJ 24 David Oliver     LJ 108 Gary Arthur     FJ 116 Mike Weatherford     SJ 29 Adrian Hill     BJ 105 Dino Paganelli     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Can't get any worse than that - outside of giving Ernie Adams free video cameras this week.   I'll bet they already have an advance copy of our playbook.     Edited November 29, 2017 by thunderingsquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Just Jack said: Pats* at Bills  Replay: Paul Weidner  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/SterGe0r.htm  R 114 Gene Steratore     U 81 Roy Ellison     DJ 24 David Oliver     LJ 108 Gary Arthur     FJ 116 Mike Weatherford     SJ 29 Adrian Hill     BJ 105 Dino Paganelli     Can’t we just get Walt Coleman on board and let our team forfeit/rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Just Jack said: Pats* at Bills  Replay: Paul Weidner  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/SterGe0r.htm  R 114 Gene Steratore     U 81 Roy Ellison     DJ 24 David Oliver     LJ 108 Gary Arthur     FJ 116 Mike Weatherford     SJ 29 Adrian Hill     BJ 105 Dino Paganelli     best ref in the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, QB Bills said: best ref in the league I agree. Steratore is good, and not afraid to call penalties on the Pats. Won't matter much but at least the chances of a cleanly called game are a lot higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 9/12/2017 at 9:51 AM, Just Jack said: Week 2 - Bills at Panthers  R 65 Walt Coleman U 44 Jeff Rice DJ 74 Derick Bowers LJ 16 Kevin Codey FJ 1 Scott Novak SJ 95 James Coleman BJ 111 Terrence Miles  •Replay: Darryll Lewis •Position changes: Novak (SJ→FJ), Coleman (FJ→SJ)  Walt's stats... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/ColeWa0r.htm  Wait. Is James Coleman related to Walt Coleman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Well at least we have a good fair Ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Â Wait. Is James Coleman related to Walt Coleman? Â Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Indy @ Bills  Replay: Jim Lapetina  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/AlleBr0r.htm R 122 Brad Allen     U 11 Fred Bryan     DJ 48 Jim Mello     LJ 40 Brian Bolinger     FJ 97 Tom Hill     SJ 26 Jabir Walker     BJ 83 Shawn Hochuli     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Man was I wrong last week,I guess you can't base it on previous performances. Â I chalk it up to the full moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 ? The Pats had far more penalties called on them than the Bills did. That's unusual in the league. Steratore and crew are as fair as there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Indy @ Bills  Replay: Jim Lapetina  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/AlleBr0r.htm R 122 Brad Allen     U 11 Fred Bryan     DJ 48 Jim Mello     LJ 40 Brian Bolinger     FJ 97 Tom Hill     SJ 26 Jabir Walker     BJ 83 Shawn Hochuli     BJ is Shawn Hochuli...if he’s related to Ed, get ready for a lot of Pass Interference flags (mostly because he needs to stretch his biceps during cold weather) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Miami @ Bills, we last saw Boger and his crew week 9, Bills @ Jets  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/BogeJe0r.htm  Replay: John McGrath R 23 Jerome Boger     U 49 Rich Hall     DJ 134 Ed Camp     LJ 63 Mike Carr     FJ 103 Eugene Hall     SJ 87 Walt Coleman IV     BJ 112 Tony Steratore     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 57 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Miami @ Bills, we last saw Boger and his crew week 9, Bills @ Jets  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/BogeJe0r.htm  Replay: John McGrath R 23 Jerome Boger     U 49 Rich Hall     DJ 134 Ed Camp     LJ 63 Mike Carr     FJ 103 Eugene Hall     SJ 87 Walt Coleman IV     BJ 112 Tony Steratore      There's a fourth Walt Coleman? What, three incompetent halfwits wasn't enough? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:  There's a fourth Walt Coleman? What, three incompetent halfwits wasn't enough? Multiple Walt Colemans, multiple Hochulis and now I see there’s another Steratore....geez, it really is a father/son sport. Nepotism lives!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, BringBackFergy said: Multiple Walt Colemans, multiple Hochulis and now I see there’s another Steratore....geez, it really is a father/son sport. Nepotism lives!!!  Tom Brady's going to still be getting calls go his way when he's 90 and in a nursing home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Miami @ Bills, we last saw Boger and his crew week 9, Bills @ Jets  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/BogeJe0r.htm  Replay: John McGrath R 23 Jerome Boger     U 49 Rich Hall     DJ 134 Ed Camp     LJ 63 Mike Carr     FJ 103 Eugene Hall     SJ 87 Walt Coleman IV     BJ 112 Tony Steratore      Is this a good slate, or a bad slate?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:  Is this a good slate, or a bad slate?   Boger is pretty terrible. His crew has only officiated in two playoffs since he became a ref 11 years ago. He routinely averages higher penalties/game than the league average and he is pretty much the poster boy for the "flag-happy" referee generation.  No matter how you slice it, I think it's pretty bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Â Is this a good slate, or a bad slate? Â WOW!! Â Walt and Tony!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Multiple Walt Colemans, multiple Hochulis and now I see there’s another Steratore....geez, it really is a father/son sport. Nepotism lives!!! NFL officiating has always been a nepotistic clique.  There used to be a hugely disproportionate number of officials based in and around Denver.  Not sure if that’s still true, but it remains an insular fraternity, which probably explains the abysmal quality of NFL officiating today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, fridge said:  Boger is pretty terrible. His crew has only officiated in two playoffs since he became a ref 11 years ago. He routinely averages higher penalties/game than the league average and he is pretty much the poster boy for the "flag-happy" referee generation.  No matter how you slice it, I think it's pretty bad. Yeah, to further this point, not only does Boger's crew throw a lot of flags, he also has what seems to be an extremely difficult time making announcements in any type of complicated call with any sort of clarity.  He'll have no problem with "false start, offense, #62. 5 yard penalty, repeat the down." But if he has to explain a ticky-tack challenged play or offsetting penalties or anything like that, you'll likely be scratching your head   Edited December 14, 2017 by JM57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Walt Coleman the #$%^ing IV. YGBFKM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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