MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Agreed - you can't UN-pick up his 5th year option. He's at that RG3 unplayable level now. The could give me the Brock Oswieler deal of giving me a 2nd round pick just to take him on and i am not doing it. I want your 1st if thats the case with how bad he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 You actually think the Jags would trade Ramsey? I don't. If they think Tyrod is the QB they want then they will. Not easy to get a starting QB in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 That's the problem for BORTLES, the guy had pretty good rookie season, then they start messing with his mechanics. sometime you just have to go play ball. He is a more talented passer than Tyrod, plus he has mobility as well. This will still allow the bills to draft a QB, plus I would give Peterman a chance to start the season. If he is worth keeping then the quarterback situation going into next year looks better. Are we not rooting for the 2018 draft? I have watched him since his days at Oviedo HS. (Right down the street) never understood the hype with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 What?! No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Bortles is terrible. I'd rather just play Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The could give me the Brock Oswieler deal of giving me a 2nd round pick just to take him on and i am not doing it. I want your 1st if thats the case with how bad he is. I'd do the 2nd in a heartbeat. 3.2 million and he never sees the field even in practice. Opt out of the 5th year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 For Ramsey yes, otherwise no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If they think Tyrod is the QB they want then they will. Not easy to get a starting QB in the league Not going to happen. The Jags would hang up the phone while guffawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'd do the 2nd in a heartbeat. 3.2 million and he never sees the field even in practice. Opt out of the 5th year. They already picked up the 5th year option. No getting out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 They already picked up the 5th year option. No getting out of it It's injury-only though. Hence he wears sweatpants the whole year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 For the Jags first round pick, has me listening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) It's injury-only though. Hence he wears sweatpants the whole year. Want TT just give me a 1st. I dont need Bortles back give me Henne instead Hypothetical because Marrone really is an idiot if he gives up a 1st for TT Edited August 18, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 That's the problem for BORTLES, the guy had pretty good rookie season, then they start messing with his mechanics. sometime you just have to go play ball. He is a more talented passer than Tyrod, plus he has mobility as well. This will still allow the bills to draft a QB, plus I would give Peterman a chance to start the season. If he is worth keeping then the quarterback situation going into next year looks better. Are we not rooting for the 2018 draft? Bortles has never had a good season. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/28/blake-bortles-is-the-king-of-garbage-time-stat-padding/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/blake-bortles-is-the-tom-brady-of-nfl-garbage-time/ My boss lives in Jacksonville and lived their his whole life....knows many people in the area....including bar managers. He told me that Blake Bortles parties a lot and drinks a lot. He's got a very active night life and is frequenting bars constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How is it that people who think Tyrod sucks believe that teams will give up high valued assets like Ramsey or a 1st round pick for him? I do not at all understand the logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkwoodus13 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How much is the fifth year option? can't be more than 10 million. This option, plus Peterman and a rookie QB salary would still be under 20 million for the position. Competition brings out the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Bortles has never had a good season. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/28/blake-bortles-is-the-king-of-garbage-time-stat-padding/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/blake-bortles-is-the-tom-brady-of-nfl-garbage-time/ My boss lives in Jacksonville and lived their his whole life....knows many people in the area....including bar managers. He told me that Blake Bortles parties a lot and drinks a lot. He's got a very active night life and is frequenting bars constantly. Yes he does. Did it at Oviedo, No change at UCF Still big partier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Want TT just give me a 1st. I dont need Bortles back give me Henne instead Hypothetical because Marrone really is an idiot if he gives up a 1st for TT Trade TT and McCoy. Start Peterman. Get the number one pick. Ends all of the arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How is it that people who think Tyrod sucks believe that teams will give up high valued assets like Ramsey or a 1st round pick for him? I do not at all understand the logic. How does Denver use a 1st on Tim Teblow. If a coach falls in love with a QB idiotic things happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How does Denver use a 1st on Tim Teblow. If a coach falls in love with a QB idiotic things happen I laughed my ass off when McDaniels had them take him with a #1 pick. Also had a good laugh when Cleveland blew a #1 on Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Tyrod and Ragland for Bortles and Ramsey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Nope not doing it. So at least Hotrod is better than somebody!LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How is it that people who think Tyrod sucks believe that teams will give up high valued assets like Ramsey or a 1st round pick for him? I do not at all understand the logic. In this offense he's terrible. In last year's offense he was serviceable. He will give a team 3k passing, 500 rushing, and not turn the ball over. If a team wants to run every play like Jacksonville then he will do the job. You can't win in the NFL like that but if they think they can then all the power to them. I want a QB that can throw for 4-5k so time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So at least Hotrod is better than somebody!LOL He is better than a handfull of QBs in this league. Just not good enough IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If we are talking Jags, I would rather trade for Henne. Maybe something like a 2nd and Henne for Tyrod and a 6th. Not really sure why the Jags would be interested. Bottles is terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoTier Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 That's the problem for BORTLES, the guy had pretty good rookie season, then they start messing with his mechanics. sometime you just have to go play ball. He is a more talented passer than Tyrod, plus he has mobility as well. This will still allow the bills to draft a QB, plus I would give Peterman a chance to start the season. If he is worth keeping then the quarterback situation going into next year looks better. Are we not rooting for the 2018 draft? Bortles is a dud who just doesn't have it. Lots of first time starting QBs look like hot stuff early on before the defenses figure them out. Bortles is one. So were Ponder, Kaepernick, Foles, and Osweiler in recent years. Mark Sanchez "led" the Jests to the AFC championship game as a rookie but he still sucked. Taylor is at least competent. Bortles isn't even close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How much is the fifth year option? can't be more than 10 million. This option, plus Peterman and a rookie QB salary would still be under 20 million for the position. Competition brings out the best Bortles 5th year option is $19 million. No thanks. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'd rather start Nate than have Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I have been hearing Bortles has been horrible this preseason. So much, his starting job is in jeopardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Bortles has never had a good season. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/28/blake-bortles-is-the-king-of-garbage-time-stat-padding/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/blake-bortles-is-the-tom-brady-of-nfl-garbage-time/ My boss lives in Jacksonville and lived their his whole life....knows many people in the area....including bar managers. He told me that Blake Bortles parties a lot and drinks a lot. He's got a very active night life and is frequenting bars constantly. With a girlfriend like his, why would you bother doing anything but her? Edited August 18, 2017 by Bray Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Blake Bortles....is this where we're at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Noooooooo!!!!!! But I'm sure The_Dude will love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Jacksonville would likely take TT for Bortles without even hanging up to think about it. And I would then begin reserving my seat on the fire Beane bandwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Every player needs confidence. Especially the QB. The bills really don't have much faith in Tyrod. Mean while BLAKE BORTLES, is dealing with a QB killer in Doug Marone. Bortles and 4th to buffalo for Tyrod Tyrod doesn't fit this west coast offense . The three step drops will not work. If you watch the bills/jags from last year, I think Bortles played well. Fresh start for both players. Bortles in three years have over 11k pass yards and 69 TD's. problem has been turnovers. Obviously Tyrod protects the ball well, would be prefect for Marone ground and pound. Lets see...a QB who was chosen by peers to 2 Pro Bowls in 2 seasons, with an excellent TD to Turnover ratio, high QB rating, dual threat, and very good comp %...and a guy who has been a great teammate and been willing to work with the FO to prove himself when he could have not renegotiated to force an opportunity somewhere else. For the worst starting QB in the NFL who has the worst mechanics in the NFL and is in serious jeopardy to lose his job to Henne who isn't even that good of a backup, let alone a starter? A QB who has no confidence, has been reported he's lazy on mechanics and not the student of the game he needs to be? NO NO NO. Not saying Taylor is the answer, he still has a lot to prove himself this year, but Bortles is awful. He is very close to being done in the NFL. Our future QB is coming in the next draft if they are not on this roster. Why is this so confusing for people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The Jags would have to at least throw in a 2nd round pick for it to be a consideration. Tyrod is a proven solid starter, while Bortles is a mess of a project. There would have to be some major draft capital thrown in for the Bills to take him on. Also, this just doesn't seem to be a move you make once half the pre-season is over. QB's need time to learn a system and gel with the receiving core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The Florida Times Union's Ryan O'Halloran believes "it would make perfect sense" for the Jaguars to cut Blake Bortles this summer. 1010 XL Jacksonville's Hays Carlyon had a similar suggestion Friday morning. The No. 3 overall pick in the 2014 draft, Bortles has melted down this summer, first experiencing a "tired arm" last weekend -- perhaps an excuse by coach Doug Marrone to see more of Chad Henne or not -- and then a rock-bottom preseason effort Thursday night. Bortles missed wide-open big plays, and even his completions were a chore. Bortles' 2017 salary is guaranteed, but the Jaguars can't let Bortles on the field and expose him to injury, which would guarantee his $19 million salary for 2018. Henne is the favorite to start. Source: Florida Times Union Aug 18 - 11:10 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 At this point, I would be happy just getting a 3rd and nothing else in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Bortles 5th year option is $19 million. No thanks. lol It's guaranteed for injury only. The Jags would have to at least throw in a 2nd round pick for it to be a consideration. Tyrod is a proven solid starter, while Bortles is a mess of a project. There would have to be some major draft capital thrown in for the Bills to take him on. Also, this just doesn't seem to be a move you make once half the pre-season is over. QB's need time to learn a system and gel with the receiving core. It wouldn't need to be that much. I'm taking on cap space/cash for a pick. All we pay is his base salary of like 3 million, and keep him on the 53 and never activate him. Edited August 18, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 It's guaranteed for injury only. It wouldn't need to be that much. I'm taking on cap space/cash for a pick. All we pay is his base salary of like 3 million, and keep him on the 53 and never activate him. I realize that. The poster I was responding to was talking about having Bortles (under his 5th year option), Peterman and a drafted rookie in 2018. I'd have no real issue with taking Bortles as a salary dump for a good draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Every player needs confidence. Especially the QB. The bills really don't have much faith in Tyrod. Mean while BLAKE BORTLES, is dealing with a QB killer in Doug Marone. Bortles and 4th to buffalo for Tyrod Tyrod doesn't fit this west coast offense . The three step drops will not work. If you watch the bills/jags from last year, I think Bortles played well. Fresh start for both players. Bortles in three years have over 11k pass yards and 69 TD's. problem has been turnovers. Obviously Tyrod protects the ball well, would be prefect for Marone ground and pound. Do you watch NFL Football? Bortles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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