The Jokeman Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Updated WR depth chart ad see it: WR1 S Watkins '17 > S Watkins '16 WR2 Rookie '17 < R Woods '16 WR3 P Brown '17 > M Goodwin 16 WR4 A Holmes 17 } Hunter/Easley/Harvin '16 WR5 B Tate '17 < B Tate '16 WR6 W Powell '17 < W Powell '16 WR7 Everyone else On the whole I think we're better if Sammy can play a full season and Holmes replaces Hunter's red zone prescense and Easley's ST coverage. Yet asking a rookie to replace Woods is asking a lot. Also think Listenbee could be a surprise guy that might replace Tate as our primary return specialist and might be better as might offer more in receiving game as a poor man's Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Updated WR depth chart ad see it: WR1 S Watkins '17 > S Watkins '16 WR2 Rookie '17 < R Woods '16 WR3 P Brown '17 > M Goodwin 16 WR4 A Holmes 17 } Hunter/Easley/Harvin '16 WR5 B Tate '17 < B Tate '16 WR6 W Powell '17 < W Powell '16 WR7 Everyone else On the whole I think we're better if Sammy can play a full season and Holmes replaces Hunter's red zone prescense and Easley's ST coverage. Yet asking a rookie to replace Woods is asking a lot. Also think Listenbee could be a surprise guy that might replace Tate as our primary return specialist and might be better as might offer more in receiving game as a poor man's Goodwin. Not sure how Philly Brown is better than Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Updated WR depth chart ad see it: WR1 S Watkins '17 > S Watkins '16 WR2 Rookie '17 < R Woods '16 WR3 P Brown '17 > M Goodwin 16 WR4 A Holmes 17 } Hunter/Easley/Harvin '16 WR5 B Tate '17 < B Tate '16 WR6 W Powell '17 < W Powell '16 WR7 Everyone else On the whole I think we're better if Sammy can play a full season and Holmes replaces Hunter's red zone prescense and Easley's ST coverage. Yet asking a rookie to replace Woods is asking a lot. Also think Listenbee could be a surprise guy that might replace Tate as our primary return specialist and might be better as might offer more in receiving game as a poor man's Goodwin. Swap Philly and Holmes, I'm with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Not sure how Philly Brown is better than Goodwin. health is the best strength you can have to your game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 health is the best strength you can have to your game Not too many games are won from the whirlpool tub...the guys ribs were like fine china... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 health is the best strength you can have to your game He was talking about 2016 Goodwin. Who played 15 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Great returner, but needs to give up the stat hunt for the good of the team. I love the signing just for that. But, he was also a great fill in receiver, and did some run after catch that was excellant. Good man to have...a pro if he has anything left in the tank. Let McD decide that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Would not surprise me in the least if they went into the year with the WR depth chart looking like - Sammy Watkins Andre Holmes 'Philly' Brown Kolby Listenbee Brandon Tate Especially if they were to draft O.J. Howard to pair with Charles Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Whoops there goes a compensatory pick. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/3/20/14966572/buffalo-bills-compensatory-picks-2018-stephon-gilmore-robert-woods Great timing by Trapasso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Oh boy, here we go. I smell a new picks thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Earth shattering.WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Plead no first round CB. I plead the fif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcoam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Great returner, despite his age, and I'm happy too see him back as a Bill, nice re-signing However let's honest He caught 8 balls last year He is NOT a #3, a #4, or even a #5 WR The fact is Walter Powell had twice as many snaps as Tate did last year Tate is a body in case of multiple WR injuries or might still have to win a job in camp The signing, as well as Philly and Holmes, who caught 24 and 16 passes last year Does not alleviate badly needing a serious NFL starting #2WR or even a starting #3WR That is if you are serious about upgrading at starting WR for 2017 Otherwise I like the depth acquired and that we are going into camp with more known historically durable players, Listenbee aside It does look like Butler, Washington, and Lewis will all have a hard time surviving the cuts Assuming Tate, Philly, Holmes, Powell, and Listenbee all make the team which is not assured jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I like him... he doesn't fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 yeah i was hoping we'd get tate back. he was a consistent bright spot on returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Not sure how Philly Brown is better than Goodwin. does he run more than 3 routes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 CB in 1st, SS in 2nd. If we aren't going WR, then trade down twice in the first. You can get a 1st round Talent CB in the 2nd. Trade down in the 2nd and get a safety. If we aren't going to take a WR to be a true #2 in this draft this year, trade the heck down and get as many pics this year and next as we can Great returner, despite his age, and I'm happy too see him back as a Bill, nice re-signing However let's honest He caught 8 balls last year He is NOT a #3, a #4, or even a #5 WR The fact is Walter Powell had twice as many snaps as Tate did last year Tate is a body in case of multiple WR injuries or might still have to win a job in camp The signing, as well as Philly and Holmes, who caught 24 and 16 passes last year Does not alleviate badly needing a serious NFL starting #2WR or even a starting #3WR That is if you are serious about upgrading at starting WR for 2017 Otherwise I like the depth acquired and that we are going into camp with more known historically durable players, Listenbee aside It does look like Butler, Washington, and Lewis will all have a hard time surviving the cuts Assuming Tate, Philly, Holmes, Powell, and Listenbee all make the team which is not assured jc I personally say take WR, but trade down to say 13 or so and get another pick then take one. but like I said, if the Bills don't go WR in round one (which is stupid if they dont', so you know they won't) then trade down a ton and pick up DB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I'm seeing LB as the pick. Whaley even said LB is the biggest need on defense for McD. I think he specifically said weak side LB.correct. It's vital for his D to function well. Trade down a few spots,pick up Cunningham or Reddick, then CB and S in the second.depth beyond that,and call it a wrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 If we aren't going WR, then trade down twice in the first. You can get a 1st round Talent CB in the 2nd. Trade down in the 2nd and get a safety. If we aren't going to take a WR to be a true #2 in this draft this year, trade the heck down and get as many pics this year and next as we can I personally say take WR, but trade down to say 13 or so and get another pick then take one. but like I said, if the Bills don't go WR in round one (which is stupid if they dont', so you know they won't) then trade down a ton and pick up DB's We're stupid for not drafting another WR in the first...? 2 of our last 3 first round picks were spent on WRs, this would make 3 of 4. Why not look in the 2-3 for another WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I'm really happy to hear this I was hoping they would bring him back. I don't know how much he offers as a WR, but I thought he was VERY underrated as a return man last year. I think he almost single-handedly kept us in a few games last year with some of his plays on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Good signing and glad he is back....he is a good return man and gets us much need field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Seems like our needs LB are being overlooked by a lot of folks We're not ignoring it, we just are seeing a WR corps which is Sammy and a whole lot of depth signings, a CB group that is Darby (who had a down year), Kevon Seymour (who might not be ready) and a whole lot of depth, and a safety group that has been completely retooled and pretty much bereft of depth. LB is not a position of strength, but it's so far down the list of gaping, glaring holes that I am honestly confused why people keep interjecting about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 As a kick returner or overall? Cordarrelle is one of the best in the league on kick returns. overall. Better combo of KR and WR than Cordarelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I like Tate. Good solid all around player and was at times a pretty decent WR. Good re-signing. Sticking with the taller WR mold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Great returner, despite his age, and I'm happy too see him back as a Bill, nice re-signing However let's honest He caught 8 balls last year He is NOT a #3, a #4, or even a #5 WR The fact is Walter Powell had twice as many snaps as Tate did last year Tate is a body in case of multiple WR injuries or might still have to win a job in camp The signing, as well as Philly and Holmes, who caught 24 and 16 passes last year Does not alleviate badly needing a serious NFL starting #2WR or even a starting #3WR That is if you are serious about upgrading at starting WR for 2017 Otherwise I like the depth acquired and that we are going into camp with more known historically durable players, Listenbee aside It does look like Butler, Washington, and Lewis will all have a hard time surviving the cuts Assuming Tate, Philly, Holmes, Powell, and Listenbee all make the team which is not assured jc Anyone else really high on Powell? I thought his play in camp deserved more time on the field than he was given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Anyone else really high on Powell? I thought his play in camp deserved more time on the field than he was given. ...Powell did look good......Disappearing Dez is the baffler..........and good move to re-sign Tate....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Anyone else really high on Powell? I thought his play in camp deserved more time on the field than he was given. i like Powell. I believe he got hurt at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcoam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I'm not high on him per see I just will say he got the 5th most snaps at WR last year I suspect Philly and Holmes will move by him on the depth chart but that's not assured Because its not like they had more snaps, targets, or catches than him last season, lol What I am saying is I don't think Tate blew by Powell And all the posts on the Tate thread forgot about Powell And most of the other WR threads completely ignore Powell Case of folks thinking the shiny new dumpster dive WR FA signings are better than the existing dumpster dive WR depth LOL Us fans really deserve some higher level young talent to watch in a Bills uni, cross your fingers for min #10 or 2nd round jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Ruben foster in first. The writing is on the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Great returner, despite his age, and I'm happy too see him back as a Bill, nice re-signing However let's honest He caught 8 balls last year He is NOT a #3, a #4, or even a #5 WR The fact is Walter Powell had twice as many snaps as Tate did last year Tate is a body in case of multiple WR injuries or might still have to win a job in camp The signing, as well as Philly and Holmes, who caught 24 and 16 passes last year Does not alleviate badly needing a serious NFL starting #2WR or even a starting #3WR That is if you are serious about upgrading at starting WR for 2017 Otherwise I like the depth acquired and that we are going into camp with more known historically durable players, Listenbee aside It does look like Butler, Washington, and Lewis will all have a hard time surviving the cuts Assuming Tate, Philly, Holmes, Powell, and Listenbee all make the team which is not assured jc Have to say I agree with this post....the Tate signing certainly doesn't take a top WR in the draft off the table, if it were me...remember, if Sammy goes down (and we all know Sammy will most likely go down at some point), we still need that 1A receiver to help continue to put fear into the opposing secondary...currently no one on the roster after Sammy does that...if we do not draft another top WR, we are in for a repeat in the passing game imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 He ran way too many kickoffs out of the endzone for my liking. But I guess that's more a coaching thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 He ran way too many kickoffs out of the endzone for my liking. But I guess that's more a coaching thing.well that coach is... still here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcoam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Ja Crispy, I'm going one step further I'm calling for both a #2WR and a #3WR in the first 4 rounds of the draft Gimme another Sammy and a sure handed young slot guy I know its unlikely to happen But its what the Texans did last year and they look to be set at WR for the next 4-5 years Call me crazy but this would be extremely exciting for us fans It would be a tremendous upgrade on offense for 2017 and beyond It would match what the Phins are doing, have done, and what DW tired to do by bringing in Harvin It makes the opposing OC have to game plan for us in addition to Shady and Clay We could put out a starting offensive lineup that would be potentially explosive.... It would really help our QB One can dream.... jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Glad he's back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Ja Crispy, I'm going one step further I'm calling for both a #2WR and a #3WR in the first 4 rounds of the draft Gimme another Sammy and a sure handed young slot guy I know its unlikely to happen But its what the Texans did last year and they look to be set at WR for the next 4-5 years Call me crazy but this would be extremely exciting for us fans It would be a tremendous upgrade on offense for 2017 and beyond It would match what the Phins are doing, have done, and what DW tired to do by bringing in Harvin It makes the opposing OC have to game plan for us in addition to Shady and Clay We could put out a starting offensive lineup that would be potentially explosive.... It would really help our QB One can dream.... jc I like the idea, but think we can go WR2 in rounds 1-3 and WR3 in round 5. Specifically for the latter, I'm thinking Cannon out of Baylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think McD is going all in on defense for AT LEAST the first two days of the draft now. I wouldn't be surprised if our first four picks were on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 i like Powell. I believe he got hurt at some point... ...absolutely correct....good call............. Bills placed WR Walter Powell on injured reserve with an ankle injury, ending his season. Powell went down in Sunday's win over the Jaguars. A journeyman third-year pro, Powell is headed for restricted free agency. If retained, he'll fight for one of Buffalo's final roster spots in 2017. Tue, Nov 29, 2016 03:59:00 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcoam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Good info So b4 the injury Powell was basically WR #4 after Goodwin Higher on the depth chart than his actual season snaps jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Hopefully Whaley's strategy of signing a bunch of fullbacks and #4 WR's pays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Hopefully Whaley's strategy of signing a bunch of fullbacks and #4 WR's pays off. ...so then it's ALL Whaley and McCoach will let HIM decide who he gets for him to play "between the stripes" with no input?.....if inside the stripes is MY responsibility, no way in hell do I let you tell me who will be there....McDermott is a helluva lot smarter than that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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