GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Musgrave and Olsen are the two big experienced names on the market. Both have had very odd careers with some big highs (that year Olsen got from Freeman in Tampa still amazes me) and some pretty dismal lows.... Either would have some convincing to do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'm not inspired at all by the retreads. There are some very bright young minds out there. No one knew who Sean McVay was when he was promoted from a tight ends coach to OC for Washington. I would not mind at all if McDermott tapped someone who we have not heard of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I watched him run the worst offense that I have ever seen at LSU. He did less with more than any coach that I have ever seen (combined with Miles). None of these guys left do much for me. What about Sonny Dykes? Any interest from the masses? These retreads that weren't good (outside of Musgrave) aren't all that inspiring. Les Miles was the problem. Their offense always underachieved. Edited January 13, 2017 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Les Miles was the problem. Their offense always underachieved.Don't disagree but Cameron was the OC of that abysmal offense. He certainly isn't blameless. Cameron does nothing for me. I think that I want outside the box here. Originally I was hoping for McCoy but now give me someone with upside. It may blow up in our face or it may pay dividends. That's a better option to me than below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Don't disagree but Cameron was the OC of that abysmal offense. He certainly isn't blameless. Cameron does nothing for me. I think that I want outside the box here. Originally I was hoping for McCoy but now give me someone with upside. It may blow up in our face or it may pay dividends. That's a better option to me than below average. His track record is not below average. Research his history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'd like to see some fresh blood in at coordinator rather than an older cat. There's a guy over in KC that was hired on by Andy Reid around the same time as McDermott. He also just so happens to be the guy that has developed Travis Kelce into the beast that he is today. Additionally, it looks like McDermott it hiring all of Andy Reid's 2002 Eagles staff, and this guy is one of the assistants on the team. So, if we're gonna go in that direction, I'd like to take a look at Tom Melvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 His track record is not below average. Research his history.Im well aware of Cam Cameron. I remember him in SD (where he did a nice job), Miami and Baltimore. In addition to LSU I don't think that he was good in any of those places. He does nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 There is still one continuity option...... Chris Palmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 There is still one continuity option...... Chris Palmer?I'd rather Kromer who I believe is still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Has anyone guessed Bill Callahan yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Bring back the Pillsbury Dough Boy....Van Pelt. (Green Bay still in playoffs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'd like to see some fresh blood in at coordinator rather than an older cat. There's a guy over in KC that was hired on by Andy Reid around the same time as McDermott. He also just so happens to be the guy that has developed Travis Kelce into the beast that he is today. Additionally, it looks like McDermott it hiring all of Andy Reid's 2002 Eagles staff, and this guy is one of the assistants on the team. So, if we're gonna go in that direction, I'd like to take a look at Tom Melvin. Good find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I know he got fired midseason, but I liked the idea of Mark Trestman. I don't know what happened in Baltimore, but he was a great offensive mind. but he really hasn't been successful as a coach...a decent year in Chicago but also had Forte, Brandon Marshall and Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'll throw out the 10,000,000 - 1 long shot - Lane Kiffin. He just took the FAU job but he has low enough character to bolt immediately. He may see an NFL OC job as a quicker path to a power 5 job or NFL HC job than FAU. Again, not at all likely but thinking outside the box. I'd like to see some fresh blood in at coordinator rather than an older cat. There's a guy over in KC that was hired on by Andy Reid around the same time as McDermott. He also just so happens to be the guy that has developed Travis Kelce into the beast that he is today. Additionally, it looks like McDermott it hiring all of Andy Reid's 2002 Eagles staff, and this guy is one of the assistants on the team. So, if we're gonna go in that direction, I'd like to take a look at Tom Melvin. I'd be ok with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Really...cuz it was the Defense that held this team back this year, not the offense amazing how so many ignore this Still not seeing anything that says McCoy ways hired by Denver. 1 tweet from some guy at 7pm saying "finalizing". Then crickets. On top of that, thatbtweet didnt get any momentum till almost 10pm. Unless I missed something McCoy to Denver isnt official yet. Most reports of finalizing dont go into the next day before you here of the hiring especially for an OC. It may look like its happening but it hasnt yet http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-mccoy-will-return-as-broncos-offensive-coordinator/385665043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazroc Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 amazing how so many ignore this http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-mccoy-will-return-as-broncos-offensive-coordinator/385665043 Yea that still doenst say hes been hired. Its just a report from the guy who tweeted that they were finalizing at 7pm. I find it strange there hasnt been an official announcement from Denver a full 13 hrs later. For a coordinator. These things tend to get done much quicker than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Bill Musgrave was Frazier's OC in Minnesota. Both Childress and Nagy (co-OC for the Chiefs) were with the Eagles with McDermott. Per Sal Capaccio, Duce Staley is the RB coach in Philly but has been rising through the ranks so he could be a possibility as an up-and-comer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llyolf Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Musgrave has to be a strong consideration. Haha Nate Hackett... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I know he got fired midseason, but I liked the idea of Mark Trestman. I don't know what happened in Baltimore, but he was a great offensive mind. Marc Trestman - has an unusual backstory as I recall. After graduating from law school he worked in football for a while but then left to be a stockbroker for 3 or 4 years. Then Bill Walsh asked him if he wanted to return to the NFL. Smart guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Falcons QB coach Matt La Fleur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Musgrave? Bill Musgrave did a decent job with the Raiders and no idea why they allowed his contract to expire and not re-up. That Raider offense really carried the team this year. Someone mentioned Cam Cameron who did develop Joe Flacco and runs an offense just like Anthony Lynn, Greg Roman. Edited January 13, 2017 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I want someone who will be passing game oriented. Someone who will look to spread things out and attack early and often. Get a balanced attack by throwing it around and opening up space for the runners. We need more athleticism and speed on offense. Get 3-4 playmakers outside with McCoy and TT?. Edited January 13, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) That's kind of funny....but rather than a picture, could you elaborate as to why? The narrative is Oakland let him move on 'cuz he's an out of touch dufus. Not sure I buy that EDIT: I didn't see the quotation mark and misread your statement, my bad...I deleted my initial response...hey, Friday morning - bar of expectations should be set pretty low. Edited January 13, 2017 by BigBuff423 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 If we're looking to poach the Reid tree 1 more time it's a short and meh list. Brad Childress Pat Shurmur Marty Mornhinweg Matt Nagy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'm not so sure Musgrave is available. What if Denver is looking to hire him as well as McCoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Falcons QB coach Matt La FleurThere's an interesting name. Does he have any connections to the staff? I know some people were advocating for Kyle Shanahan and La Fleur a couple weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Good find... I'd be ok with this. Here's a good read on Tom Melvin. http://www.chiefs.com/longreads/2015/tommelvin.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I know they didn't let him interview with the Jets. John DeFillipo QB Coach Phil. Make an inquiry. Kromer is officially gone? Edited January 13, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Bill Musgrave did a decent job with the Raiders and no idea why they allowed his contract to expire and not re-up. That Raider offense really carried the team this year. Someone mentioned Cam Cameron who did develop Joe Flacco and runs an offense just like Anthony Lynn, Greg Roman. I think its because they really like Downing and were afraid another team was going to poach him for their OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 What about Chan Gailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 What about Chan Gailey? He retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 There's an interesting name. Does he have any connections to the staff? I know some people were advocating for Kyle Shanahan and La Fleur a couple weeks back. The only tie he has with Buffalo,would be working with Bill Kollar in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Surprised we haven't seen the Senator chime in yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 I would give Beach Chairs a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Maybe we should just roll the dice and see what Sanjay Lal can do. Don't want scraps that have been picked over. I'm not sure what "scraps that have been picked over" Just like the HC search, there are typically two kinds of OCs in the league: 1) previous OCs who are currently unemployed, either because they got the boot as OC, or were given a shot at HC and fired 2) offensive assistants promoted to OC Just like the HC search, either way you may get a stud or a dud - from promoted offensive assistant, you don't know how capable they are to craft an offense and make creative and game-aware calls until they do. From previous OCs, you know something about their offense, but you may not know how much was them and how much their HC, how much was the personnel they had and can they adapt. There are plenty of both still around. Wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I would give Beach Chairs a shot Yes. The more I think about it the more it makes sense. Tell him to leave his son at home. My candidates: 1.Kromer 2.DeFillippo 3.Dorsey 4.Van Pelt Edited January 13, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure what "scraps that have been picked over" Just like the HC search, there are typically two kinds of OCs in the league: 1) previous OCs who are currently unemployed, either because they got the boot as OC, or were given a shot at HC and fired 2) offensive assistants promoted to OC Just like the HC search, either way you may get a stud or a dud - from promoted offensive assistant, you don't know how capable they are to craft an offense and make creative and game-aware calls until they do. From previous OCs, you know something about their offense, but you may not know how much was them and how much their HC, how much was the personnel they had and can they adapt. There are plenty of both still around. Wait and see. Unfortunately category 2 is very limited. Many NFL teams are blocking their QB gurus from moving on. See Oakland and Philadelphia. So this category you can can't grab the next diamond as easily. Edited January 13, 2017 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I would give Beach Chairs a shot That would work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Bill Callahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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