LeGOATski Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The media ( and I) probably won't buy in this year no matter what they do until year end and we see what we have then. The market is too small for the media to care much in general, no big new star to market (other than Rex), the franchise is carrying 16 year old bags full of suck. It's going to take time. Look at the Bengals. Good team, tons of winning seasons... but you never hear much. Bills are kind of like that. Not really "marketable". Tiny fan base relative to most of the league. No stars. It's like Cincinnati, or Detroit-- who cares? It's Buffalo, for crissake .. who cares? Now the Raiders? Super marketable as they are "the Raiders". They have a brand. Bills need to build a brand of some kind, based on something, not sure what it is. Maybe it's Rex's snarky personality (seriously). He may be it. Something for the media to build a brand around. Sounds corny, but that's what the franchise needs. A brand identity. Not sure what it is right now. Maybe TT takes it to the next level, becomes Russell Wilson with actual QB stats to go with it. Becomes Vick but with class. Something. We shall see. Yeah, I like this post. I find it really easy to root for the Raiders. Fun team to watch and Carr is the real deal. That's gonna be a tough matchup. Rex is certainly a big draw for the franchise. It would be great if he is successful here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Yeesh, they can only play the teams in front of them... True, but that doesn't change the circumstances they listed in the wins. Bottom line, we have 3 wins that are not overly impressive. Cardinals seemed like it was until we saw the Cardinals struggle in every game but week 2 this year. Pats game was against a 3rd string rookie QB with a messed up hand and without a healthy Gronk. Rams game was against a team missing 2 of its studs on D that allowed us to run all over them and yet we were still very much tied until that pick 6 and the game was still up in the air until that muffed faked punt. I love the wins, the Bills seem to be winning the games they should win, however, circumstances of those wins combined with our struggling passing game and missing our best receiver by a mile in Sammy gives us a lot of our own questions to how good we are. We can win the next 2, and we should, and there still wont be a clear picture to where we are at as a team until that game against the Pats because the next 2 are bad teams we should absolutely beat...we need to win both those games and then we get to test the merit of this team against the class of the AFC this year against the Pats as they are easily the best team in the AFC, if not the NFL IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 'Eye test' reviews put us in the bottom half of the league, while 'blind metric based' reviews put us in the top half. Pretty interesting. Last week, that difference in method, I would guess, likely accounted for the Rams being above us on many lists. That being said, I think the earlier in the season, the more I would trust the "eye test" method over general stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivermont Mike Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 True, but that doesn't change the circumstances they listed in the wins. Bottom line, we have 3 wins that are not overly impressive. Cardinals seemed like it was until we saw the Cardinals struggle in every game but week 2 this year. Pats game was against a 3rd string rookie QB with a messed up hand and without a healthy Gronk. Rams game was against a team missing 2 of its studs on D that allowed us to run all over them and yet we were still very much tied until that pick 6 and the game was still up in the air until that muffed faked punt. I love the wins, the Bills seem to be winning the games they should win, however, circumstances of those wins combined with our struggling passing game and missing our best receiver by a mile in Sammy gives us a lot of our own questions to how good we are. We can win the next 2, and we should, and there still wont be a clear picture to where we are at as a team until that game against the Pats because the next 2 are bad teams we should absolutely beat...we need to win both those games and then we get to test the merit of this team against the class of the AFC this year against the Pats as they are easily the best team in the AFC, if not the NFL IMO. What will you think about this team if they win the next two "winnable" games and then split with the Pats*** and Seahawks to hit the bye at 6-3? If they go into the bye week 5-4 instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 @walterfootball Week 6 NFL Power Rankings - http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php 14. Buffalo Bills (3-2) - Previously: 22. Overrated NFL Team: The Bills have won three games in a row! They're great again! That's what the public is thinking, but it doesn't seem like that is the case. Buffalo's three victories aren't overly convincing. The Arizona win was nice, but the Cardinals have since proven to be a middling team. Prevailing in Foxboro may look good on paper, but the Patriots' quarterback in that game, Jacoby Brissett, was so banged up that he needed thumb surgery immediately afterward. The Bills just beat the Rams, but Los Angeles was missing some key defenders and was still tied at 16 before Case Keenum's horrible pick-six. Overrated is the only thing I would argue with there. This is the "all you can eat" part of the schedule where the Bills need to belly up to the bar, and they're doing that. Keep winning against everyone and the Bills can't be considered overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The media ( and I) probably won't buy in this year no matter what they do until year end and we see what we have then. The market is too small for the media to care much in general, no big new star to market (other than Rex), the franchise is carrying 16 year old bags full of suck. It's going to take time. Look at the Bengals. Good team, tons of winning seasons... but you never hear much. Bills are kind of like that. Not really "marketable". Tiny fan base relative to most of the league. No stars. It's like Cincinnati, or Detroit-- who cares? It's Buffalo, for crissake .. who cares? Now the Raiders? Super marketable as they are "the Raiders". They have a brand. Bills need to build a brand of some kind, based on something, not sure what it is. Maybe it's Rex's snarky personality (seriously). He may be it. Something for the media to build a brand around. Sounds corny, but that's what the franchise needs. A brand identity. Not sure what it is right now. Maybe TT takes it to the next level, becomes Russell Wilson with actual QB stats to go with it. Becomes Vick but with class. Something. We shall see. Never under estimate the Buffalo diaspora all over the country. If we ever started to win the media would be stupid not to respond. There are far more Bills fans across this country than Bengals fans. The Bills as winner would be quite "marketable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 We all have to be real The offense is WELL below average The defense looks great but unless the pass game dramatically improves, this team isn't gonna make the playoffs. On the positive side the Oline is strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 @PatKirwanCBS Wk 6 Power Rankings: https://goo.gl/LFOkSB 11. Buffalo (19)A third straight win has this looking a lot more like a Rex Ryan team – ground and pound, and an attacking defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Calling Buffalo overrated then ranking them slightly above the middle of the league seems like a contradiction. Around 14-16 sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Three wins are three wins, but no one should be forming a bandwagon yet. 14-17 is right around where we belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Call me crazy, but I thought the Bills were missing a few starters in those last 3 wins as well? The write ups make it sound like only our opponents are missing players. Either way they have us listed about where we belong in the middle. I doubt getting to 5 - 2 will cause much of a ripple either (if we get there). Edited October 12, 2016 by driddles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Call me crazy, but I thought the Bills were missing a few starters in those last 3 wins as well? The write ups make it sound like only our opponents are missing players. Either way middle they have us listed about where we belong. I doubt getting to 5 - 2 will cause much of a ripple either (if we get there). This is where I'm at as well. 14ish. Funny that we have been underdogs a lot and when we win it's because of opponents injuries. Why not favor us then? We have big pieces out too...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janick70 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 @walterfootball Week 6 NFL Power Rankings - http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php 14. Buffalo Bills (3-2) - Previously: 22. Overrated NFL Team: The Bills have won three games in a row! They're great again! That's what the public is thinking, but it doesn't seem like that is the case. Buffalo's three victories aren't overly convincing. The Arizona win was nice, but the Cardinals have since proven to be a middling team. Prevailing in Foxboro may look good on paper, but the Patriots' quarterback in that game, Jacoby Brissett, was so banged up that he needed thumb surgery immediately afterward. The Bills just beat the Rams, but Los Angeles was missing some key defenders and was still tied at 16 before Case Keenum's horrible pick-six. Our best defensive player (Marcell Dareus); our best offensive player (Sammy) with due respect to McCoy; our 1st and 2nd round draft choices; one of the best tackles in Glenn is hobbled yet it's the other teams injuries huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Our best defensive player (Marcell Dareus); our best offensive player (Sammy) with due respect to McCoy; our 1st and 2nd round draft choices; one of the best tackles in Glenn is hobbled yet it's the other teams injuries huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The media ( and I) probably won't buy in this year no matter what they do until year end and we see what we have then. The market is too small for the media to care much in general, no big new star to market (other than Rex), the franchise is carrying 16 year old bags full of suck. It's going to take time. Look at the Bengals. Good team, tons of winning seasons... but you never hear much. Bills are kind of like that. Not really "marketable". Tiny fan base relative to most of the league. No stars. It's like Cincinnati, or Detroit-- who cares? It's Buffalo, for crissake .. who cares? Now the Raiders? Super marketable as they are "the Raiders". They have a brand. Bills need to build a brand of some kind, based on something, not sure what it is. Maybe it's Rex's snarky personality (seriously). He may be it. Something for the media to build a brand around. Sounds corny, but that's what the franchise needs. A brand identity. Not sure what it is right now. Maybe TT takes it to the next level, becomes Russell Wilson with actual QB stats to go with it. Becomes Vick but with class. Something. We shall see. We beat Cinci and Seattle with a playoff bound record, then they might change their tune. Until then its Us vs the World! Call me crazy, but I thought the Bills were missing a few starters in those last 3 wins as well? The write ups make it sound like only our opponents are missing players. Either way middle they have us listed about where we belong. I doubt getting to 5 - 2 will cause much of a ripple either (if we get there). It doesnt fit their narrative that were only winning because OTHER teams have injuries. The only way to shut the media up is keep winning. on to SF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Win the next two. They are games we should win and games we havw to have. Get to 5-2, feel good factor, momentum, confidence, then give the Patriots everything we got at home (following it we get a long week and then a bye). Even if we lose that New England game a loss where we are in it and close would have me whispering Jim Mora Senior's favourite "P" word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Never under estimate the Buffalo diaspora all over the country. If we ever started to win the media would be stupid not to respond. There are far more Bills fans across this country than Bengals fans. The Bills as winner would be quite "marketable". i always underestimate it. 30 years of experience tell me when the you say you're from Buffalo, the smiles start. Gonna take a long time to overcome what Jimmy Griffin did to that place in the public eye. From experience, I can tell you Buffalo has been a national joke punchline for as long as i can remember. I hope the Bills can cover that the way the Steelers and others do for their cities. Gonna take a long time. Start now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Agreed, but, they were missing Cam Newton. But, yes, silly to move up when 1-4. True. So with Sammy, Marcell, Reggie and Shaq out we should be ranked like #3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 @si_nfl Week 6 Power Rankings: What’s wrong with the free-falling Panthers? (by @ChrisBurke_SI) http://on.si.com/2e5mq3C The NFC teams in playoff position through five weeks: Vikings, Cowboys, Falcons, Seahawks, Packers and Eagles. In the AFC: Raiders, Steelers, Patriots, Texans, Broncos and Ravens (with the Bills tied for that final spot). Obviously, a long road remains in the regular season, but teams currently outside the top six in their respective conferences aren't exactly lining up to storm the gates. In piecing together this week's Power Rankings, it was far more difficult finding teams deserving of spots in the top half than it was filling out the depths. 11 Buffalo Bills Last Week: 12 Record: 3–2 Expectations have returned for the Bills, who really should move to 5–2 considering how their next two opponents (San Francisco and Miami) have been playing. And if they make that happen, might we request someone strap a microphone to Rex Ryan for the entire week leading up to Buffalo’s Week 8 rematch with New England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 @PFF The Falcons now sit atop PFF's NFL Power Rankings entering Week 6. #RiseUp https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl-power-rankings/ Bills Offense #19 Bills Defense #5 Bills Overall #13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Top 5 defense wthout a bunch of starters , I knew Rex sucked. oh wait......... Maybe Mario sucked, maybe the safety play sucked, maybe Kyle Williams missed most of the year....... nah it is Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 True, but that doesn't change the circumstances they listed in the wins. Bottom line, we have 3 wins that are not overly impressive. Cardinals seemed like it was until we saw the Cardinals struggle in every game but week 2 this year. Pats game was against a 3rd string rookie QB with a messed up hand and without a healthy Gronk. Rams game was against a team missing 2 of its studs on D that allowed us to run all over them and yet we were still very much tied until that pick 6 and the game was still up in the air until that muffed faked punt. I love the wins, the Bills seem to be winning the games they should win, however, circumstances of those wins combined with our struggling passing game and missing our best receiver by a mile in Sammy gives us a lot of our own questions to how good we are. We can win the next 2, and we should, and there still wont be a clear picture to where we are at as a team until that game against the Pats because the next 2 are bad teams we should absolutely beat...we need to win both those games and then we get to test the merit of this team against the class of the AFC this year against the Pats as they are easily the best team in the AFC, if not the NFL IMO. +1. I would just add that AZ and NE were good wins and good teams can have bad games but still find a way to win, like we did with the Rams. Now, we're not a "good team" yet, but it is encouraging that we didn't screw the pooch against LA. Good teams also roll over teams they should beat and don't let them hang around. We will know if we are a good team in a couple of weeks, at the very least this team appears to be more resilient that years past where we would lay down and die at the first sign of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 That very same Arizona team, that was NOT a quality win for us, is ahead of us in many polls. At 2-3 they are still considered "dangerous". But in week 3 they were not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 That very same Arizona team, that was NOT a quality win for us, is ahead of us in many polls. At 2-3 they are still considered "dangerous". But in week 3 they were not? Since when do Polls override on field performance? Cards have been bad every week but 1 and that was week 2. So I don't care what the polls say, which have zero merit, no value, and are 100% rooted in speculation and opinion. The reality of the situation is that the Cards win is a quality win, no denying that. But because the Cards have been so bad, its hard to use that win as a game to gauge the quality of the Bills team after 3 straight wins. Reminds me of when we upset the Colts last year in week 1...big deal, Colts went on to prove they sucked, and so did we as it turned out that Colts win wasn't that big of a deal even though at the time it seemed impressive. We beat a struggling team that was projected to be a lot better, we beat the best team in the AFC playing with an already injured 3rd string QB, and we beat a Rams team that has not been very good outside of its Defense that was missing 2 of its 3 best players on defense. So the whole point is that people are making is that wins are great, but its hard to gauge how good or bad this Bills team is right now because of circumstances surrounding the opponents we beat as well as our own struggles with the passing game and missing Sammy. If this team is good, it will win both the next 2 games...we drop even one of those games and our playoff hopes begin dwindling very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Cant argue with any of that. Power Polls are pretty fun tho... ...when we're winning of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Cant argue with any of that. Power Polls are pretty fun tho... ...when we're winning of course That!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 That very same Arizona team, that was NOT a quality win for us, is ahead of us in many polls. At 2-3 they are still considered "dangerous". But in week 3 they were not? Yep, ironic how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 What they're saying: Where the Bills rank in NFL power rankings National media share opinions on where the Bills rank among the 32 NFL teams through five weeks of the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) i always underestimate it. 30 years of experience tell me when the you say you're from Buffalo, the smiles start. Gonna take a long time to overcome what Jimmy Griffin did to that place in the public eye. From experience, I can tell you Buffalo has been a national joke punchline for as long as i can remember. I hope the Bills can cover that the way the Steelers and others do for their cities. Gonna take a long time. Start now. Sure some people love to pick on Buffalo, but plenty of American cities are loaded with people that have Buffalo roots. There were at least 20,000 Bills fans at the LA game. This team is plenty marketable across the US if they started winning. They are a much bigger draw on the road than a team like the Bengals. Edited October 13, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 @walterfootball Week 6 NFL Power Rankings - http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php 14. Buffalo Bills (3-2) - Previously: 22. Overrated NFL Team: The Bills have won three games in a row! They're great again! That's what the public is thinking, but it doesn't seem like that is the case. Buffalo's three victories aren't overly convincing. The Arizona win was nice, but the Cardinals have since proven to be a middling team. Prevailing in Foxboro may look good on paper, but the Patriots' quarterback in that game, Jacoby Brissett, was so banged up that he needed thumb surgery immediately afterward. The Bills just beat the Rams, but Los Angeles was missing some key defenders and was still tied at 16 before Case Keenum's horrible pick-six. Was that by Mike Rodakent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) You think the Bills can stay above #20 with this win? These NFC games really bite you in the ass. Edited October 17, 2016 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Around 12 seems about fair, 5-2 this time next week sounds better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 You think the Bills can stay above #20 with this win? These NFC games really bite you in the ass.Probably just a couple of spots below 1-5 Carolina seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RK_BillsFan Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I think the early Power Polls going into week 7 on Bleacher Report has us at 9. I'm still a skeptic, but if we can put the phins away next week with another ground and pound win, I will be overly ecstatic to see the Bills v Pats game. That said, I think if we get to the Pats with a 5-2 record, we will finally get to see what our team is made of. A pissed off, full steam ahead New England team will be much harder to beat than the Hold Down the Fort one we faced in week 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Power rankings are fairly short-sighted. How are we playing right now? I think we are playing like a top 10 team and riding a 4 game win streak is going to give us some clout in the polls, regardless of who we beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Probably just a couple of spots below 1-5 Carolina seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Point Differential: 01. ???? 02. New England 03. Philadelphia 04. Minnesota 05. Dallas 06. Atlanta 07. Denver 08. Pittsburgh 09. Seattle 10. Arizona That's a nice list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 59 points for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 @gmfb Now on #GMFB, @HarrisonNFL discusses his Power Rankings! Here they are: https://t.co/vQbGFXCLZR RANK 7 4-2 BILLS So happy for these guys. As mentioned previously in this space, I reserve the right to cheer for the Bills. When the early injuries (and one very important suspension) contributed to an 0-2 start, I feared we were in for another empty, 8-8, playoff-less season. Well, now look: Buffalo is 4-2 after winning four in a row, including a huge division win over the Patriots. The defense looks fantastic. Soon it will be Shaq-tastic, when the first-round pick gets healthy. Sure would be nice to have Marcell Dareus back this week ... jussssst in time for the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 THE HYPE TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES CHOO CHOO M-FERS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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