Reggie Ragland to have knee surgery; out for season

[Gugny]

I choose to interpret "inconclusive" as a positive, too. If no injury was glaringly obvious, perhaps that means whatever he did is minor. That's my hope, anyway.

[John from Riverside]

 

Does anybody seek a 2nd opinion if they liked the first one?

If its inconclusive? You want to be sure

[atlbillsfan1975]

Maybe he went to the Midland Lee doctor and got upset at what he was told?

[YoloinOhio]

If there was swelling, they would have waited to do the MRI. Since they did it yesterday I am guessing either there wasn't swelling or that was what actually caused them not being able to conclude anything.

Edited August 6, 2016 by YoloinOhio

[Mike in Horseheads]

After skimming through 11 pages of worthless gibberish I truly thank you for this information.

We're very good at gibberish, thank you.

Maybe he went to the Midland Lee doctor and got upset at what he was told?

5 Star Urgent Care.

[3rdand12]

We're very good at gibberish, thank you.

5 Star Urgent Care.

Excel at it myself .

If there was swelling, they would have waited to do the MRI. Since they did it yesterday I am guessing either there wasn't swelling or that was what actually caused them not being able to conclude anything.

well that is no help at all.

[John from Riverside]

Maybe he went to the Midland Lee doctor and got upset at what he was told?

Except in the movie the initial doctor did the ligament test and told boobie he had a acl tear

 

the initial test on reggie did not suggest that (an NFL medical staff) and they sent him for MRI to be sure

 

I mean Im not saying its good or bad....only that its not automatically bad

[MDH]

We're very good at gibberish, thank you.

 

 

Exactly. This is good, quality gibberish, not the "worthless" kind jethro was claiming it to be.

[YoloinOhio]

They could be lying about it being inconclusive. I mean this is the Bills and they lie to us about everything, remember.

Edited August 6, 2016 by YoloinOhio

[Wayne Cubed]

They could be lying about it being inconclusive. I mean this is the Bills and they lie to us about everything, remember.

I'm going with he's got a little bit of pain, they don't see anything on the MRI, so it's inconclusive. Which could mean small meniscus tear.

[John from Riverside]

Haha unfortunately that's how i see it too.

 

Delay the bad news as long as possible.

What would be the point of that

[Virgil]

Second opinions always worry me

[Beerball]

They could be lying about it being inconclusive. I mean this is the Bills and they lie to us about everything, remember.

gibberish

[SpunkysSD]

Once again; 2 Words.....Rusty Jones

[Ohiostyle]

Hoping for the best here, not sure what that is at this point. When could we reasonably expect to have something definitive?

[jethro_tull]

maybe this just isn't the place for you jethro

I am completely for sites that allow freedom of expression and freedom from censorship. However it would be nice if people could occasionally self edit. The threads do get unwieldy in a hurry But usually an impressive amount of important Bills news gets told here first and that's what it's all about.

[gobillsinytown]

They could be lying about it being inconclusive. I mean this is the Bills and they lie to us about everything, remember.

 

So then if they said that he tore his ACL............I"m so confused!

[atlbillsfan1975]

Except in the movie the initial doctor did the ligament test and told boobie he had a acl tear

 

the initial test on reggie did not suggest that (an NFL medical staff) and they sent him for MRI to be sure

 

I mean Im not saying its good or bad....only that its not automatically bad

Yea, I agree that we are all speculating right now. Getting a second opinion means just that. Getting more information so a decisions can be made. If it was a clear cut ACL tear I think we would know that by now.

Like everyone who is a Bills fan, I am hoping for the best and bracing for the worse case.

[3rdand12]

Yea, I agree that we are all speculating right now. Getting a second opinion means just that. Getting more information so a decisions can be made. If it was a clear cut ACL tear I think we would know that by now.

Like everyone who is a Bills fan, I am hoping for the best and bracing for the worse case.

Thats really the only way to view it till something CONCLUSIVE is shared.

 

Simple Definition of conclusive

• : showing that something is certainly true

Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary

[Dragonborn10]

It will be a torn meniscus. It is harder to see on MRI. Surgery and 4-8 weeks recovery is my best guess.

[3rdand12]

I am completely for sites that allow freedom of expression and freedom from censorship. However it would be nice if people could occasionally self edit. The threads do get unwieldy in a hurry But usually an impressive amount of important Bills news gets told here first and that's what it's all about.

I would hope you are able to sift through the posts and get your hard data as needed.

I think the board offers a wide range of info , opinion , arguments , discussion and then some of us busting balls about obtuse comments such as;

 

"They shoot horses don't they "

 

Which was a book . Commenting on putting down lame horses and applying it conceptually to humans. Thank gosh we do not do that around here.

Edited August 6, 2016 by 3rdand12

[Big Blitz]

Optimistic take:

 

We could have 3 first round picks playing their first games for us next season.

 

Shaq, Reggie (we wanted him in the 1st so I'll consider him one), TBD

 

 

Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

 

Edited August 6, 2016 by Big Blitz

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

So when Ohio State faces Middle Nebraska Tech in their first game, that's not effectively a preseason game?

What's the old college saying ' you improve the most between your first and second games'.

[jimmy10]

I have an online GED/MD from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College, and it's in my esteemed opinion that Ragland will be fine. He just needs to walk it off.

[707BillsFan]

I have an online GED/MD from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College, and it's in my esteemed opinion that Ragland will be fine. He just needs to walk it off.

Don't forget he'll need to rub some dirt on it as well.

[The Wiz]

Don't forget he'll need to rub some dirt on it as well.

And elbow grease.

[eball]

Haha unfortunately that's how i see it too.

 

 

But of course you do. Hey, it's probably Brandon who insisted the lid be kept on a season ending injury for fear losing our 2nd round LB would impact ticket sales.

[Nanker]

I'll take trim over surgery every time.

Especially when there's swelling involved.

 

Once again; 2 Words.....Rusty Jones

Third and fourth words... is retired.

 

I am completely for sites that allow freedom of expression and freedom from censorship. However it would be nice if people could occasionally self edit. The threads do get unwieldy in a hurry But usually an impressive amount of important Bills news gets told here first and that's what it's all about.

[Nervous Guy]

Clinical, MRI, and arthroscopic correlation in meniscal and anterior cruciate ligament injuries

 

The aim of this prospective study was to compare and correlate clinical, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and arthroscopic findings in cases of meniscal tear and anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injuries. MRI scan results and clinical diagnosis are compared against the arthroscopic confirmation of the diagnosis. One hundred and thirty-one patients had suspected traumatic meniscal or anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury. Clinical examination had better sensitivity (0.86 vs. 0.76), specificity (0.73 vs. 0.52), predictive values, and diagnostic accuracy in comparison to MRI scan in diagnosis for medial meniscal tears. These parameters showed only marginal difference in lateral meniscal and anterior cruciate ligament injuries. We conclude that carefully performed clinical examination can give equal or better diagnosis of meniscal and ACL injuries in comparison to MRI scan. MRI may be used to rule out such injuries rather than to diagnose them.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2899202/

 

There you go dummies.

[Nanker]

So it's settled then. He's out for the season if not longer.

[White Linen]

 

Does anybody seek a 2nd opinion if they liked the first one?

 

How is it called getting a second opinion when the first is an MRI that's inconclusive?

[Nanker]

 

How is it called getting a second opinion when the first is an MRI that's inconclusive?

Well, actually the Radiologist reads the images and gives a report to the orthopedic surgeon who analyzes the images, reads the report and forms his own opinion and recommends treatment options based on that analysis. So it could actually be a second or third opinion. That's my opinion.

[Gugny]

 

How is it called getting a second opinion when the first is an MRI that's inconclusive?

 

Isn't "I'm not sure" an opinion?

[Mark Vader]

So we have to wait for Monday.

 

Have a great weekend!

[Beerball]

Clinical, MRI, and arthroscopic correlation in meniscal and anterior cruciate ligament injuries

 

The aim of this prospective study was to compare and correlate clinical, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and arthroscopic findings in cases of meniscal tear and anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injuries. MRI scan results and clinical diagnosis are compared against the arthroscopic confirmation of the diagnosis. One hundred and thirty-one patients had suspected traumatic meniscal or anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury. Clinical examination had better sensitivity (0.86 vs. 0.76), specificity (0.73 vs. 0.52), predictive values, and diagnostic accuracy in comparison to MRI scan in diagnosis for medial meniscal tears. These parameters showed only marginal difference in lateral meniscal and anterior cruciate ligament injuries. We conclude that carefully performed clinical examination can give equal or better diagnosis of meniscal and ACL injuries in comparison to MRI scan. MRI may be used to rule out such injuries rather than to diagnose them.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2899202/

 

There you go dummies.

 

That's just a tad bit long for a quotation. Next time please keep it to a sentence or 3.

 

Thank you

[chris heff]

And elbow grease.

When we were kids my brothers professional wrestling name was Jim Elbow Grease.

[26TrapDraw]

 

Trade them to the Cowboys for a 5th. I hear they love useless Matts.

Heyoooo

[3rdand12]

Well, actually the Radiologist reads the images and gives a report to the orthopedic surgeon who analyzes the images, reads the report and forms his own opinion and recommends treatment options based on that analysis. So it could actually be a second or third opinion. That's my opinion.

I second that opinion

[Jamie Nails]

Perhaps we'll hear more from Rex tonight?

[Beerball]

I second that opinion

If Ragland gets opinions to match the number of coaches on staff we're in for a long wait (in my opinion).