major Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Saw this article on ESPN today and it made me interested to hear which 10 players you feel belong in the hall. Here are mine: Terrell Owens, Drew Pearson, Rickey Watters, Kenny Easley, Jerry Kramer, Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, Steve Atwater, Robert Brazille, Dexter Manley. Yours??? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17203544/nfl-10-eligible-candidates-in-pro-football-hall-fame-terrell-owens-kurt-warner-john-lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) Steve Tasker was so good on special teams that they had to invent a new position for him. I don't remember before then anyone making a team strictly for special teams. Now every team has at least a couple of special teams specialists and it's a category of player in the Pro Bowl because of him. They need to start putting special teamers in, including kickers and punters, and I would like to see it start with him Edited August 5, 2016 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I can think of a bunch of people that do NOT belong in the Hall of Fame. Terrell Owens deserves to be in, and he will get in. Right now the only people who I think deserve to be in are: Paul Tagliabue, Don Coryell & Steve Tasker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Is there some kind of time limit for a player to become ineligible, or at least not have a snowball's chance in hell of getting in to the HoF? I'm looking forward to that day as it pertains to Steve Tasker. The arguments have already been laid out (like 2 or 3 threads every year), and thankfully, despite his fairly consistent exposure nationally as an announcer/NFL personality (a big help in gaining votes), he remains on the outside. Good. He's not worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Ha -- Schefter tweeted out this article yesterday and I replied, "If Steve Tasker isn't on that list I'm not reading it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rico Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Don't have time to come up with 10, but TO is by far the most glaring omission, criminal that he didn't go in on the 1st ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Don't have time to come up with 10, but TO is by far the most glaring omission, criminal that he didn't go in on the 1st ballot. Perfect example of voters allowing a player's personality to cloud judgment as to what makes a HOFer. TO was unjustly snubbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I've always had a soft spot for Kent Hull. But it's the HOF not the hall of very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Herman Moore should be on any list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Terrel Davis, without looking. Dude was a beast, screwed with an injury on a bubby brister int return. He got !@#$ed! Yup #4. TO will get in, he just became eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Jared Allen, Nnamdi Asomugha, Ronde Barber, Tony Boselli, Randall Cunningham, London Fletcher, Ty Law, Terrell Owens, Steve Tasker, Ricky Watters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 In no particular order: Kurt Warner, Ty Law, T.O. Terrell Davis, Ricky Waters, Steve Atwater, Steve Tasker, Jonn Lynch, Roger Craig, Alan Faneca, and Randall Cunningham. Thats 11, but I coudlnt even leave one of them off this list let alone the HOF. Every single one of those guys absolutely deserves the Hall. Several of those players not only had great careers but also revolutionized their respective positions like Craig and Cunningham. Others were one of the absolute best to play the position during their era like Ty Law. Couple guys had bad attitudes and reps for being bad in the locker room (T.O. and Waters), however their career stats and success at their positions on the field are more than worthy of the HOF. Few guys struggle to get in because of the positions they played like the safeties in Atwater and Lynch where being an enforcer and game changer doesn't always show on the stat sheet like big play DB's who have tons of INT's. Just like how Steve Taskers impact isn't filling those exciting and popular stat sections, yet was such a valuable player and dominated what he did better than anyone IMO. Or Faneca who already plays on a less sexy unit, the O-Line, furthering by playing at the position that gets even less attention than OT's do. Yet he dominated the position for his whole career. Others get hit on longevity, like Warner and Davis...yet Warner holds many passing records, in fact he not only holds many SB passing records, in many cases he is 1, 2, and 3 on the list from the 3 SB's he played in. One of the best post season QB's to ever play the game, this guy should have been a 1st ballot HOFer IMO. Davis too...his career wasn't as short as other HOF RB's like D. Walker or Sayers, yet they are in and he is not even though his career was better than theirs in terms of totals, dominance and consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 The HOF should be for people who made a significant difference in the game at any position. Steve Tasker was a game changer, Curtis Martin was not. I believe Terrell Davis definitely deserves recognition, same for Terrell Owens, Kurt Warner had a short but successful career. I would also include Boselli, Asomugha, Cunningham, and Law. If I could vote someone out it would be Martin who had a long but insignificant career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 The HOF should be for people who made a significant difference in the game at any position. Steve Tasker was a game changer, Curtis Martin was not. I believe Terrell Davis definitely deserves recognition, same for Terrell Owens, Kurt Warner had a short but successful career. I would also include Boselli, Asomugha, Cunningham, and Law. If I could vote someone out it would be Martin who had a long but insignificant career. In fairness, while I get what you said, that just can't really be the metric used. A position is only going to be changed so many times. Roger Craig changed the game being the first player ever to 1000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving. How does another RB change the position after that? People say Marshall Faulk changed the position...no he didn't, he just did his best Roger Craig impression. A lot of people who get credited for changing the position never really "changed" the position as much as they get credit for. After Roger Craig, people went out to find RB's like him. Cunningham wasn't the first QB to run, but he did it in a way that changed the perception of a dual threat QB and the demand for them and also those who wanted to play like him. The HOF is for players who was one of the best to play the position in their Era, not just guys who make you think differently about what you want from the position. Martin wasn't the flashiest, but he was definitely one of the best and most consistent of his era and his resume is HOF worthy IMO. Furthermore, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Now that Ray Guy is in Tasker better get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Don Coryell, George Young, Steve Tasker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Christian Okoye Karl Mecklenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 In no particular order: Kurt Warner, Ty Law, T.O. Terrell Davis, Ricky Waters, Steve Atwater, Steve Tasker, Jonn Lynch, Roger Craig, Alan Faneca, and Randall Cunningham. Thats 11, but I coudlnt even leave one of them off this list let alone the HOF. This is a great list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Roger Craig, Kurt Warner, Steve Atwater, Steve Tasker, Isaac Bruce, Sterling Sharpe, LaDanian Tomlinson, Edgerrin James, Sam Mills, Greg Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) Roger Craig, Kurt Warner, Steve Atwater, Steve Tasker, Isaac Bruce, Sterling Sharpe, LaDanian Tomlinson, Edgerrin James, Sam Mills, Greg Lloyd. Pretty good list. If they don't belong in, most have at least one foot on the line. Tasker of course is a personal favorite, and Craig and James stick out. That may just be me watching the guy with the ball, but they both had distinctive aspects to their games. There are probably some poor schmoes who were better than all these guys but got stuck on lousy teams. Edited August 6, 2016 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Pretty good list. If they don't belong in, most have at least one foot on the line. Tasker of course is a personal favorite, and Craig and James stick out. That may just be me watching the guy with the ball, but they both had distinctive aspects to their games. There are probably some poor schmoes who were better than all these guys but got stuck on lousy teams. It seems crazy to me that roger Craig hasn't been shown the respect he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Kurt Warner and TO HAVE to go in next year. I was okay with the voters making TO wait a year for the fact he undermined just about every coach he played for but his numbers speak for themselves and he should wait no longer. Kurt probably wasn't 1st ballot worthy and then last year they were always putting Favre in and rarely go two Quarterbacks together. However, he is a Hall of Fame worthy QB and his wait should end this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 It seems crazy to me that roger Craig hasn't been shown the respect he deserves. Craig-- it is hard to believe he isn't in. Steve tasker-- someday you would think he will get in. Hopefully while he is still on the right side of the grass. NO other player made kickoffs a must see play before him like he did. He was a ST monster. There should be the StevenTasker award for best ST player in the league every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Ralph, OJ, JoeD, Kelly, Reed, Polian, Bruuuce, Levy, Lofton, TThomas, Shaw. Wait! Wrong Thread.. Mo' Bills: George Byrd (40 INTS???), McDole, C.Biscuit#97 -er Bennett, Smerlas, Saimes, TO, Wolford and Tasker. Lamonica & M.Lynch?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF4LOU Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Lou Saban One win away from the chance of it being called the Lou Saban trophy instead of Vince Lombardi. We would have beat the pack. OJ was nothing until Lou came back to coach. They finally gave him his due by putting him on the wall, now we need to fight for him to be in the Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Is there some kind of time limit for a player to become ineligible, or at least not have a snowball's chance in hell of getting in to the HoF? I'm looking forward to that day as it pertains to Steve Tasker. The arguments have already been laid out (like 2 or 3 threads every year), and thankfully, despite his fairly consistent exposure nationally as an announcer/NFL personality (a big help in gaining votes), he remains on the outside. Good. He's not worthy. There is no disqualification period. If you were saying sarcastically, ok, but there is a senior inductee section where you have to have retired from the NFL for at least 25 years. Many deserving guys in that bucket. Honestly, we have most guys who deserve to be in the HOF from Buffalo. If any ST specialist needs to go in because they "changed the game", it's Devin Hester. I'd love to see Tasker in, but the all time kick and punt returner should be a HOF. Not sure if it will ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 What about Ruben Brown. 9 time pro bowler, 8 years in a row. If that isn't OG dominance in an era, I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I can think of a bunch of people that do NOT belong in the Hall of Fame. Terrell Owens deserves to be in, and he will get in. Right now the only people who I think deserve to be in are: Paul Tagliabue, Don Coryell & Steve Tasker. Agree on Coryell. How he is snubbed and Dungy gets in can't be defended based on what either contributed to the NFL. Tags doesn't deserve it, neither will any Commissioner after Rozelle. Terrel Davis, without looking. Dude was a beast, screwed with an injury on a bubby brister int return. He got !@#$ed! Yup #4. TO will get in, he just became eligible. Don't you have to be retired "at least 5 years"? TO would be eligible after the 17 season, no? Anyway--he should be a 1st ballot HOFer. Warner absolutely belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Perfect example of voters allowing a player's personality to cloud judgment as to what makes a HOFer. TO was unjustly snubbed. Then what was the reason for Thurman not being a 1st time ballot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Agree on Coryell. How he is snubbed and Dungy gets in can't be defended based on what either contributed to the NFL. Tags doesn't deserve it, neither will any Commissioner after Rozelle. Don't you have to be retired "at least 5 years"? TO would be eligible after the 17 season, no? Anyway--he should be a 1st ballot HOFer. Warner absolutely belongs. Weo - his last regular season was in 2010 with the Bengals. He was in the IFL in 2011, and never made the Seahawks squad in 12. He was snubbed this year in his first year of eligibility, most likely because of his behavior in the locker room and with the media. He didn't have off field issues, but he was let go by five teams, because he was such a pain in the butt. He'll get in next year. This is no different than Parcells. Parcells used to handle the media and even make fun of some of their questions so they held him out for a year. TO will get in. He just needs to be humble and lobby like others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceFerragamo Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Harold Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Tony Boselli dominated pre injury. 5 pro bowls, all decade selection Joe Jacoby OT of Skins,6 time finalist in HOF voting Cliff Branch Raiders- missed wide open passing era, still one of best yards per catch in history LC Greenwood 6 time pro bowler, all decade team of 70's Mark Bavaro- complete TE, one of best blockers, career cut short by bad knee Agree with Roger Craig backers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Weo - his last regular season was in 2010 with the Bengals. He was in the IFL in 2011, and never made the Seahawks squad in 12. He was snubbed this year in his first year of eligibility, most likely because of his behavior in the locker room and with the media. He didn't have off field issues, but he was let go by five teams, because he was such a pain in the butt. He'll get in next year. This is no different than Parcells. Parcells used to handle the media and even make fun of some of their questions so they held him out for a year. TO will get in. He just needs to be humble and lobby like others. Ok. I thought because he got a paycheck from the Seahawks (65K signing bonus) it would reset the clock. And how about that 4.45 40 in his workout! These HOF voters are mostly puffed up "Sports writer" d-bags. They have to punish a guy like TO and make him wait in order to make some sort of editorial statement that simply must be made (meanwhile, the guy the media gave a pass for his likely involvement in a murder, got in only because TO was snubbed). In the same way, they vote in Dungy (WTF?) and let a true "game changer" like Coryell twist in the wind. Other than Favre--lame incoming class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 Agree- dungy doesn't belong in hof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Ha -- Schefter tweeted out this article yesterday and I replied, "If Steve Tasker isn't on that list I'm not reading it." But if you don't read it you'll never know if he is on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Dungy essentially had 2 Super Bowl teams, but got screwed. Gruden is the imposter. BIG TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardwork Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 TO's negatives are too high. Randy Moss was so could he could overcome his negatives, but TO isn't in his class. Others who should be in: Mike Vrabel, Ty Law, Tedy Bruschi, Troy Brown, Richard Seymour, Rodney Harrison, Willie McGinest. Just off the top of my head of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Dungy essentially had 2 Super Bowl teams, but got screwed. Gruden is the imposter. BIG TIME. Dungy had 7 or 8 SB teams. Only won a single SB--against Rex Grossman. Dungy's last team in Tampa wasn't a SB team. Tampa's next team was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Dungy had 7 or 8 SB teams. Only won a single SB--against Rex Grossman. Dungy's last team in Tampa wasn't a SB team. Tampa's next team was. I lived around Tampa during those times. Gruden is a jerk. Gruden only won because he faced one of the most dysfunctional teams ever! I mean, CRAZY Dysfuntional. Oh, and they weren't smart enough to change anything Gruden installed. That was Dungy's team, and the voters agree he's a HOF guy. And to say Dungy had 7-8 SB teams says a lot - for Dungy. No one blames Belicheat when he loses one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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