akm0404 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Love how everyone talks about his obvious deficiencies. Defensive player of the year in the best conference, unquestioned defensive leader of the literal National Champion, but yah obv. no good lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 That's not what I asked you. Do this...list the starting 11 as you see them. 3-4-4 Then add 1-2 DBs depending on your preference. Now, tell me who you are pulling off the field. I don't see this as a concern. Well, nickel would go 3-3-5. You would have 3 LBs on the field. I would guess Hughes and S.Lawson aren't coming off the field with Zach Brown as the Mike. I mean, I thought that's why we got Brown, he's one of the fastest ILBs in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) You should change over to NFL Network. Mayock is far better than anyone over there. I also got the NFL Net on instead of ESPN2, its like a party Edited April 30, 2016 by Marty McFly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Time for some deep breathing exercises all around. commonsense & Scott Law...the general population understands your takes. No reason to keep coming back for more. Gen pop...your position is well documented. You aren't going to change their opinions and they aren't going to change yours so drop it. So...until pick 80 I don't expect to see any more back & forth. Capisce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Time for some deep breathing exercises all around. commonsense & Scott Law...the general population understands your takes. No reason to keep coming back for more. Gen pop...your position is well documented. You aren't going to change their opinions and they aren't going to change yours so drop it. So...until pick 80 I don't expect to see any more back & forth. Capisce? Cheers, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Please take Von Bell in the 3rd!!!!!! No can dosville baby doll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Time for some deep breathing exercises all around. commonsense & Scott Law...the general population understands your takes. No reason to keep coming back for more. Gen pop...your position is well documented. You aren't going to change their opinions and they aren't going to change yours so drop it. So...until pick 80 I don't expect to see any more back & forth. Capisce? Thank you, Beersphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Love how everyone talks about his obvious deficiencies. Defensive player of the year in the best conference, unquestioned defensive leader of the literal National Champion, but yah obv. no good lol.I wasn't a Ragland guy at 19. I think that he is limited athlete. At the same time I think that he is a long-term, solid starter. That is a win to me at 49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Please take Von Bell in the 3rd!!!!!! nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Time for some deep breathing exercises all around. commonsense & Scott Law...the general population understands your takes. No reason to keep coming back for more. Gen pop...your position is well documented. You aren't going to change their opinions and they aren't going to change yours so drop it. So...until pick 80 I don't expect to see any more back & forth. Capisce? you forgot to call them all "sparky". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well, nickel would go 3-3-5. You would have 3 LBs on the field. I would guess Hughes and S.Lawson aren't coming off the field with Zach Brown as the Mike. I mean, I thought that's why we got Brown, he's one of the fastest ILBs in the league. OK. I think they'll be in 6 DBs plenty too, but...if Brown is the 3rd LB then Ragland coming off is not an issue. So, you must believe that the 41st pick is too high for someone who may come off the field often. Do I finally get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 We are worse because we have opinions other than "OBD you do nothing wrong!" Sorry for being skeptical about Rex and the team after watching last season. I deleted the post, I was out of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 you forgot to call them all "sparky". I forgot to call you Gugny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 No can dosville baby doll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I forgot to call you beerball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 no other team gave up a next year draft pick for trading up so far (in the second round). I didn't like Ragland #19 but I have no problem with him here. Are you Jerry Sullivan, sneaking in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 In the spirit of common civility and being bills fans.....can I ask the two what way they would have gone now that they have seen how rounds 1 and 2 have played out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 So, you must believe that the 41st pick is too high for someone who may come off the field often. Do I finally get it? That's basically it. I'm not really trashing the pick, I just wasn't that thrilled with it. Anyways, we're on to the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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klos63 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Oh boy. This feels like a Rex move -- so obsessed with stopping the run. Not too thrilled about this, but on the bright side our current ILB's are so terrible it's almost guaranteed he starts. yeah, stopping the run is so overrated. Let's go back to giving up 200 yards a game. That worked so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Watch: Doug Whaley Discuss Ragland Pick (7:03)Bills General Manager Doug Whaley talks about the Bills 2nd round pick, linebacker Reggie Ragland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 In the spirit of common civility and being bills fans.....can I ask the two what way they would have gone now that they have seen how rounds 1 and 2 have played out? Yes, via PM. Listen, I don't care who says what as long is it doesn't get personal and as long as I don't feel that we're rehashing things that were rehashed 4 pages back. All y'all are getting too much of a testosterone rush. I deleted one of my own posts earlier in this thread because I crossed the line. Keep it civil. Don't pile on. Don't get personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 No can dosville baby doll. Very much appreciated this reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 yeah, stopping the run is so overrated. Let's go back to giving up 200 yards a game. That worked so well. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 yeah, stopping the run is so overrated. Let's go back to giving up 200 yards a game. Mike Pettine agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 In the spirit of common civility and being bills fans.....can I ask the two what way they would have gone now that they have seen how rounds 1 and 2 have played out? Sure. I would taken Deion Jones, Cravens who both would compliment Lawson much better than Ragland- in my opinion of course. With Lawson you get a speed to power guy as Whaley said, he excels at that and the less he is in coverage the better player he will be. Another option was stay put and wait for Reed, Billings to fall to 49 and get MD out of the middle and let him work. Both options would have made the defense more multiple and not have cost as much. Drafting Ragland pushes Preston to depth and if Rex and Doug don't trust him in the middle so be it. Here we are lets see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley says Ragland will play the WILL, Brown the MIKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 If we get Andrew Billings here in the 3rd round I will take back all the bad stuff I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley says Ragland will play the WILL, Brown the MIKE Yep. With Hughes and Shaq as the Edge LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Jake Coker gassed him... Is this a knock on his athleticism or his Wonderlic? I've been wracking my brain, and the only reason I can surmise that he'd get gassed from chasing his own QB is because he's an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley says Ragland will play the WILL, Brown the MIKE That's interesting. He also said if they worked out a trade with Cleveland they would've taken him 1st in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sure. I would taken Deion Jones, Cravens who both would compliment Lawson much better than Ragland- in my opinion of course. With Lawson you get a speed to power guy as Whaley said, he excels at that and the less he is in coverage the better player he will be. Another option was stay put and wait for Reed, Billings to fall to 49 and get MD out of the middle and let him work. Both options would have made the defense more multiple and not have cost as much. Drafting Ragland pushes Preston to depth and if Rex and Doug don't trust him in the middle so be it. Here we are lets see how it goes. According to Whaley Brown is going to stay at Mike and Ragland will play Will. So it won't push him to depth. I think the knock on Ragland's speed has been overblown, he's not a slow LB, he's just average. That being said I'm not sure he has the speed to play Will, I'd have pegged him more as a Mike but I guess we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) That's interesting. He also said if they worked out a trade with Cleveland they would've taken him 1st in the 2nd round. Wow. Can you imagine if they had traded up to #1 in the 2nd, and then NOT taken Jack...? Edited April 30, 2016 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 According to Whaley Brown is going to stay at Mike and Ragland will play Will. So it won't push him to depth. I think the knock on Ragland's speed has been overblown, he's not a slow LB, he's just average. That being said I'm not sure he has the speed to play Will, I'd have pegged him more as a Mike but I guess we'll see.[/quote We will see how it shakes out, sounds like Preston will have to ward off Zach Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wow. Can you imagine if they had traded up to #1 in the 2nd, and then NOT taken Jack...? Tells you that he was completely off their board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 That's interesting. He also said if they worked out a trade with Cleveland they would've taken him 1st in the 2nd round. Yeah, I thought it was interesting how he said they identified they wanted to trade up for Ragland and started working on it LAST NIGHT. Means Jack was never in play. I like it. ID the top talent and go and get your guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley also said their top three guys were Shaq, Ragland -- then he never named the third. Wonder who it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley also said their top three guys were Shaq, Ragland -- then he never named the third. Wonder who it was. floyd maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Whaley also said their top three guys were Shaq, Ragland -- then he never named the third. Wonder who it was. Waiting to see who the third round pick is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Whaley also said their top three guys were Shaq, Ragland -- then he never named the third. Wonder who it was. Not their top 3 - the three they were debating at 19, right? Guessing Butler. Edited April 30, 2016 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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