Bills Working on extensions for Gilmore & Maybe Tyrod

[26CornerBlitz]

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@SalSports

Bills contract focus now turns to Taylor/Gilmore. Whaley said on @WGR550 he's "supremely confident there's a chance" they can get all 3 done

[Wilton Bills]

Not a big Gilmore fan. Has not been consistent and gets hurt. Not worth the big $$$$ he thinks he is worth. How often have we had a good defensive secondary player who has left for greener pastures and been average for the rest of his career. Waste of money to re-sign Gilmore on a big cap strapping contract.

[4merper4mer]

Not a big Gilmore fan. Has not been consistent and gets hurt. Not worth the big $$$$ he thinks he is worth. How often have we had a good defensive secondary player who has left for greener pastures and been average for the rest of his career. Waste of money to re-sign Gilmore on a big cap strapping contract.

 

 

You mean like Winfield? Letting Gilmore get away would be a mistake IMO.

[Doc]

Do NOT do anything with Taylor's contract.

[White Linen]

Do NOT do anything with Taylor's contract.

 

They won't and they literally can't.

[3rdand12]

 

@SalSports

Bills contract focus now turns to Taylor/Gilmore. Whaley said on @WGR550 he's "supremely confident there's a chance" they can get all 3 done

 

wtf does that mean? is it a direct quote or Sal's special interpretaton

 

 

You mean like Winfield? Letting Gilmore get away would be a mistake IMO.

Tough call. I would let him play out the season honestly. Hope Norman crashes.

I really like Gilmore on every level. but..

[Doc]

They won't and they literally can't.

 

As per 26's post a couple posts above, Whaley thinks they can get Gilmore and Taylor new deals.

[Rubes]

You mean like Winfield? Letting Gilmore get away would be a mistake IMO.

 

Agreed.

[Estro]

I think the Bills value Gilmore a lot.

 

I personally like Gilmore, I think he's a nice player.......that said, I don't think he's a stud. If we were able to get him for $11-$12M per I'd be happy to retain his services. The problem is I think he and his agent know they can command a lot more than that on the open market and they are probably right.

 

Josh Norman just signed a 5 year - $75M deal ($15M per). What's even scarier is he gets $20M in year 1, & $17M in Year 2 of that deal. $37M in the first 2 years is obscene. I think that deal is going to create quite a divide between the Bills and Gilmore because Gilmore probably views himself as better than Norman and the Bills probably have no intentions of spending that type of loot on Gilmore.

 

In the end the Bills will want to keep Gilmore's contract as close to Janoris Jenkins contract, which was just signed with the Giants for 5 years - $62.5M ($12.5M/per). Gilmore's camp will anchor in at Revis/Patrick Peterson money which is roughly $14M per year. The compromise will probably be in the $13M per year neighborhood, perhaps with some incentives that can push it to $14M per, so the agent can publicize an inflated deal to the press.

 

It's a lot of money, but in year or 2 it'll probably look a lot better as the cap continues to rise.

[White Linen]

 

As per 26's post a couple posts above, Whaley thinks they can get Gilmore and Taylor new deals.

 

I don't see how. Yes you can get Gilmore done because his 5th year option and long term contract aren't far away in terms of money this year. How in the world would they find an extra 15-20 million this year for Tyrod?

[DrDawkinstein]

 

I don't see how. Yes you can get Gilmore done because his 5th year option and long term contract aren't far away in terms of money this year. How in the world would they find an extra 15-20 million this year for Tyrod?

 

I dont think they'll commit to $15M for Taylor right now. But if they could find room to bump him up this year and throw a couple extra million his way, I bet that would be appreciated across the entire locker room, and hopefully if/when it comes time to work out the expensive long term deal.

 

Right now, everything needs to be focused on getting Gilmore done. If they could do that before camp... holy cow, what an offseason that would be.

[BEAST MODE BABY!]

I think the Bills value Gilmore a lot.

 

I personally like Gilmore, I think he's a nice player.......that said, I don't think he's a stud. If we were able to get him for $11-$12M per I'd be happy to retain his services. The problem is I think he and his agent know they can command a lot more than that on the open market and they are probably right.

 

Josh Norman just signed a 5 year - $75M deal ($15M per). What's even scarier is he gets $20M in year 1, & $17M in Year 2 of that deal. $37M in the first 2 years is obscene. I think that deal is going to create quite a divide between the Bills and Gilmore because Gilmore probably views himself as better than Norman and the Bills probably have no intentions of spending that type of loot on Gilmore.

 

In the end the Bills will want to keep Gilmore's contract as close to Janoris Jenkins contract, which was just signed with the Giants for 5 years - $62.5M ($12.5M/per). Gilmore's camp will anchor in at Revis/Patrick Peterson money which is roughly $14M per year. The compromise will probably be in the $13M per year neighborhood, perhaps with some incentives that can push it to $14M per, so the agent can publicize an inflated deal to the press.

 

It's a lot of money, but in year or 2 it'll probably look a lot better as the cap continues to rise.

 

 

What's the tag for a cornerback? It's $13.05 million in 2015/16. So, they have an option of paying him 2 million less than $15. I think the Bills have some room to negotiate.

[Doc]

I don't see how. Yes you can get Gilmore done because his 5th year option and long term contract aren't far away in terms of money this year. How in the world would they find an extra 15-20 million this year for Tyrod?

 

I'd have to see how much, if anything, they saved on the cap by signing Cordy. Then the same if Gilmore accepts an extension. And I'd also need to know what they're planning on offering TT/what he'd be willing to accept.

[Steve Billieve]

I think Gilmore wants to be seen as elite more than he actually wants the money. I think he feels overlooked by the national media. Maybe he would love a flashy deal that never has the chance of getting paid in full

To be confident that there's a chance doesn't take much.

I'm supremely confident that the bills have a chance to go undefeated this year.

[thebandit27]

I think Gilmore wants to be seen as elite more than he actually wants the money. I think he feels overlooked by the national media. Maybe he would love a flashy deal that never has the chance of getting paid in full

To be confident that there's a chance doesn't take much.

I'm supremely confident that the bills have a chance to go undefeated this year.

 

From what I understand, he doesn't really care what anyone outside of the organization thinks. He wants to be paid what he's worth, and then he wants to go out on Sundays and play his game.

 

I know that he's received at least one contract offer, and that it was slightly below the range he wanted. I have no doubt he'll be signed before training camp.

[YoloinOhio]

 

From what I understand, he doesn't really care what anyone outside of the organization thinks. He wants to be paid what he's worth, and then he wants to go out on Sundays and play his game.

 

I know that he's received at least one contract offer, and that it was slightly below the range he wanted. I have no doubt he'll be signed before training camp.

do you get the impression that his preference is to stay with Buffalo? Edited May 5, 2016 by YoloinOhio

[The Big Cat]

 

@SalSports

Bills contract focus now turns to Taylor/Gilmore. Whaley said on @WGR550 he's "supremely confident there's a chance" they can get all 3 done

 

 

Classic Whaley.

 

The dude is pretty rough in front of the mic.

[PromoTheRobot]

Not a big Gilmore fan. Has not been consistent and gets hurt. Not worth the big $$$$ he thinks he is worth. How often have we had a good defensive secondary player who has left for greener pastures and been average for the rest of his career. Waste of money to re-sign Gilmore on a big cap strapping contract.

Sal points out that Gilmore has missed no more games than any other elite corner.

[Deranged Rhino]

The Bills can, and I expect they will, structure Gilmore's deal so the bulk of the cap hit will take place while Darby is still on his rookie deal. That way, for the next three seasons they can have two elite CBs for the price of one and give themselves the flexibility to walk away from Gilmore just as Darby's second contract is coming due.

 

That would be the way I'd approach it as a GM at least and I expect it to get done well before camp starts.

 

It's a good time to be a Bills fan.

[Nanker]

So these "exptensions" for Glenn, Gilmore, and TT The Bills are working on are expensive extensions?

 

Just Kidding 26CB.

[26CornerBlitz]

So these "exptensions" for Glenn, Gilmore, and TT The Bills are working on are expensive extensions?

 

Just Kidding 26CB.

 

Fixed!

[thebandit27]

do you get the impression that his preference is to stay with Buffalo?

 

Very much so, yes.

 

The Bills can, and I expect they will, structure Gilmore's deal so the bulk of the cap hit will take place while Darby is still on his rookie deal. That way, for the next three seasons they can have two elite CBs for the price of one and give themselves the flexibility to walk away from Gilmore just as Darby's second contract is coming due.

 

That would be the way I'd approach it as a GM at least and I expect it to get done well before camp starts.

 

It's a good time to be a Bills fan.

 

Exactly.

 

 

Sal points out that Gilmore has missed no more games than any other elite corner.

 

I'm a big believer in Gilmore, but Sal is flat-out wrong.

 

Richard Sherman has started 16 games in 5 consecutive seasons. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14086/richard-sherman

Patrick Peterson has started 16 games in 5 consecutive seasons. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13980/patrick-peterson

Gilmore has missed a combined 11 games in his last 3 seasons. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14942/stephon-gilmore

[nucci]

 

I dont think they'll commit to $15M for Taylor right now. But if they could find room to bump him up this year and throw a couple extra million his way, I bet that would be appreciated across the entire locker room, and hopefully if/when it comes time to work out the expensive long term deal.

 

Right now, everything needs to be focused on getting Gilmore done. If they could do that before camp... holy cow, what an offseason that would be.

I think that is a good idea...(not that you asked)

Edited May 5, 2016 by nucci

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

 

Classic Whaley.

 

The dude is pretty rough in front of the mic.

You're not wrong

[The Big Cat]

You're not wrong

 

I think he's one helluva a GM, or at the very least the best we've had in a very long time.

 

But, man. He did a lot of interviews before, during and after draft weekend, and they were--at times--brutal.

 

Some will use this as a means to criticize his aptitude for the actual job. I'm not so shallow. But that doesn't mean he couldn't benefit from a little more media polishing. For whose benefit? Ours. So should it be a priority? HELL NO.

 

Ever seen Pegula in front of a mic/camera?

[BillnutinHouston]

 

I think he's one helluva a GM, or at the very least the best we've had in a very long time.

 

But, man. He did a lot of interviews before, during and after draft weekend, and they were--at times--brutal.

 

Some will use this as a means to criticize his aptitude for the actual job. I'm not so shallow. But that doesn't mean he couldn't benefit from a little more media polishing. For whose benefit? Ours. So should it be a priority? HELL NO.

 

Ever seen Pegula in front of a mic/camera?

 

He does struggle with vocabulary and pronunciation but I actually think he's improving and becoming more comfortable.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

He does struggle with vocabulary and pronunciation but I actually think he's improving and becoming more comfortable.

 

It seems to me that upon occasion he suffers from getting slightly tongue tied via a stuttering issue.

[Maddog69]

I dont think they'll commit to $15M for Taylor right now. But if they could find room to bump him up this year and throw a couple extra million his way, I bet that would be appreciated across the entire locker room, and hopefully if/when it comes time to work out the expensive long term deal.

 

Right now, everything needs to be focused on getting Gilmore done. If they could do that before camp... holy cow, what an offseason that would be.

Question: Can they sign Taylor today to a contract extension that does not kick in until next season? Not sure what the cap rules are. I know they signed Dareus last year during the season and his deal didn't kick in until the next season. Not sure how that would work. Does the season officially have to start so the contract for this season is being honored and then the new contract is just that "a new contract" not an extension or change to the existing?

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

 

I think he's one helluva a GM, or at the very least the best we've had in a very long time.

 

But, man. He did a lot of interviews before, during and after draft weekend, and they were--at times--brutal.

 

Some will use this as a means to criticize his aptitude for the actual job. I'm not so shallow. But that doesn't mean he couldn't benefit from a little more media polishing. For whose benefit? Ours. So should it be a priority? HELL NO.

 

Ever seen Pegula in front of a mic/camera?

He's a smart dude and that's what matters. He knows what he's talking about but isn't totally comfortable conveying it verbally in that setting for whatever reason. He always comes off guarded to me.

 

Did you happen to catch his post draft press conference with Rex? I was struck by how relaxed he seemed. He starts off with the shields up and as the questions go from Doug to Rex and back again and the two of them get to interact with each other a bit, he really finds his chill. The longer you watch the more natural he becomes. You probably know I'm not a big Rex guy but I get the distinct impression the two of them get on well and appreciate working together, especially in contrast to Marrone or Idzik.

 

Pegula

[DrDawkinstein]

Question: Can they sign Taylor today to a contract extension that does not kick in until next season? Not sure what the cap rules are. I know they signed Dareus last year during the season and his deal didn't kick in until the next season. Not sure how that would work. Does the season officially have to start so the contract for this season is being honored and then the new contract is just that "a new contract" not an extension or change to the existing?

 

Yes, that is essentially exactly what an extension is. A signed deal that may or may not have any effect on this year's terms. But they would be foolish to do so now with Taylor so unproven.

 

This is the exact and ideal situation the Franchise Tag was made for. What better position is suited to be labeled your "Franchise Player" besides QB? You let him play out this year, and if he earns it, start negotiating a long term deal. And you always have the Tag to fall back on to help get things done.

 

With the way QB performance goes up and down, and the CRAZY market for QBs, the best move the Bills can make would be to wait as long as possible to re-sign Taylor. But, in a show of good faith, if they have a few extra million laying around this year, they would be wise to throw it his way.

[Mark Vader]

 

I think he's one helluva a GM, or at the very least the best we've had in a very long time.

 

But, man. He did a lot of interviews before, during and after draft weekend, and they were--at times--brutal.

 

Some will use this as a means to criticize his aptitude for the actual job. I'm not so shallow. But that doesn't mean he couldn't benefit from a little more media polishing. For whose benefit? Ours. So should it be a priority? HELL NO.

 

Ever seen Pegula in front of a mic/camera?

That's because Pegula is a regular guy, who just happens to be a billionaire.

 

He's nothing like Jerry Jones, or most of the other outspoken owners.

[3rdand12]

 

From what I understand, he doesn't really care what anyone outside of the organization thinks. He wants to be paid what he's worth, and then he wants to go out on Sundays and play his game.

 

I know that he's received at least one contract offer, and that it was slightly below the range he wanted. I have no doubt he'll be signed before training camp.

was that before the Norman deal?

i would guess he wants to hit FA, if he wants the money.

Hope you are right Bandit, love to lock him up.

[The Big Cat]

 

It seems to me that upon occasion he suffers from getting slightly tongue tied via a stuttering issue.

 

I've picked up shades of stutter too.

[John from Riverside]

That's because Pegula is a regular guy, who just happens to be a billionaire.

 

He's nothing like Jerry Jones, or most of the other outspoken owners.

The last time I saw Pegula in front of a camera he started crying and made me start crying

[3rdand12]

The last time I saw Pegula in front of a camera he started crying and made me start crying

Thats was a dusty day

He's a smart dude and that's what matters. He knows what he's talking about but isn't totally comfortable conveying it verbally in that setting for whatever reason. He always comes off guarded to me.

 

Did you happen to catch his post draft press conference with Rex? I was struck by how relaxed he seemed. He starts off with the shields up and as the questions go from Doug to Rex and back again and the two of them get to interact with each other a bit, he really finds his chill. The longer you watch the more natural he becomes. You probably know I'm not a big Rex guy but I get the distinct impression the two of them get on well and appreciate working together, especially in contrast to Marrone or Idzik.

 

Pegula

I noticed the same

Question: Can they sign Taylor today to a contract extension that does not kick in until next season? Not sure what the cap rules are. I know they signed Dareus last year during the season and his deal didn't kick in until the next season. Not sure how that would work. Does the season officially have to start so the contract for this season is being honored and then the new contract is just that "a new contract" not an extension or change to the existing?

I cannot understand why its considered a positive to give Taylor money now.

As long as Bills are perceived as straight shooters by TT there is no reason not to go prove it by him.

Bills have said loudly multiple times , he is the starter

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

Thanks E

[thebandit27]

Hmmmm...........

 

 

The Gilly Lock ‏@BumpNrunGilm0re 2h2 hours ago

Blessed

[NickelCity]

Edit: already posted

 

Sounds like it might have happened

Edited May 5, 2016 by NickelCity

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Hmmmm...........

 

 

The Gilly Lock ‏@BumpNrunGilm0re 2h2 hours ago

Blessed

 

 

How cool would that be?!?