BuffaloBaumer Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Why not rest him for 3 weeks along with Lesean and get those two 100% by Miami. Ej can win on Sunday and I sure as hell hope he could win against the Jags. One bad hit and Tyrod is done for the year...I mean seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ya but I'd hate to see him sacked and get more injured    CBF I will not be surprised at all if Taylor starts...nor will I be surprised if EJ plays a significant portion of the game (because Taylor's knee injury is aggravated).  Bottom line -- get them both ready to beat the damn Bungles. I think EJ will still play but getting TT prepared isn't a bad thing. Keeps the Bengals guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 i think multiple = more than one, so didn't have an issue with that part, saying it could be multiple. . The ortho said grade 1/2 so more like a mild 2 than mild 1. Â You spoke with TT's doc? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 TT knows the rule  As a QB you NEVER leave the field.....cuz you might not get back on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 BTW, on a tangent, I hope someone expresses to TT that he is this team's starter. Â ...I want him to know for sure that if he is injured he can sit; not that he better play no matter what or risk losing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Â You spoke with TT's doc? Â its further up thread, a former orthopedic surgeon who worked with NFL players for 17 years is on Twitter and provides info on player injuries based on his experience, after seeing video of the injury. not guaranteeing it's accurate but it's just informed speculation from a guy who's seen it. Nothing more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Â I will not be surprised at all if Taylor starts...nor will I be surprised if EJ plays a significant portion of the game (because Taylor's knee injury is aggravated). Â Bottom line -- get them both ready to beat the damn Bungles. I really think Tyrod should rest for a game or two, even if he's a pocket guy, he's gonna get hit, and likely rolled up, because defensive players know to go after it. Edited October 14, 2015 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 He has a grade 2 sprain, TT is not running around at practice today-- no way. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) BTW, on a tangent, I hope someone expresses to TT that he is this team's starter. Â ...I want him to know for sure that if he is injured he can sit; not that he better play no matter what or risk losing his job. Â But what if EJ or Josh gets in and the offense hums like a well tuned Chevy 454? Ask Trent Green about that. Edited October 14, 2015 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Classic over reactions. I loved the article about Fred in Seattle where he talks about how even keeled they are out there. "You notice how even-keeled people are," Jackson said. "We're 2-3, and its not like we are self-imploding or it's the end of the world. There's confidence we'll get to where we want to be. It's all in our control" Looking at the top teams you see that's how they do things. Calculated decisions and not reacting, over reaching, changing after a bump. If EJ is in on Sunday and the line protects him we will be fine. He showed us that in Preseason when he played with the #1s. We should expect that the line will protect the QB. We need to get more in the mindset of the Steelers, Patriots, Packers etc. and stop the churn and blaming everyone. When th Bills were tearing up the league in the 90's, people were even keel here, too. Fred was here for the worst stretch ever. It's a lot easier when your players, coach, and owner are all proven. Edited October 14, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Â But what if EJ or Josh gets in and the offense hims like a well tuned Chevy 454? Ask Trent Green about that. Â Â reddog, sssssssshhhhhhhh. Â You don't want HIM to hear that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 TT knows the rule  As a QB you NEVER leave the field.....cuz you might not get back on  No one wants to be Wally Pipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 When th Bills were tearing up the league in the 90's, people were even keel here, too. Fred was here for the worst stretch ever. Â Exactly. It's not how the fanbase is, it's how the fanbase is at this time. Â To say we need to be more like the Steelers, Pats, and Packers fans... I'd say it would help greatly if the team was like the Steelers, Pats, or Packers! Consistent winning over long stretches of time will create a patient level-headed fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 At what capacity is the question A statuesque immobile Quarterback - you know in the mode of Matt "White" Cassel. Come to think of it maybe Matt would be a better backup to TT right about now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Why not rest him for 3 weeks along with Lesean and get those two 100% by Miami. Ej can win on Sunday and I sure as hell hope he could win against the Jags. One bad hit and Tyrod is done for the year...I mean seriously This. Â Be conservative with injuries. If EJ were to start and loose against the Bungals, 3-3 big deal! Â Besides, I think EJ could win. Â In any event... why takes risks with Tyrod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well it's no surprise what a player gets better with real NFL caliber coaching. Â @JonTWCNews Every #Bills player I spoke w/ says EJ Manuel is more accurate, decisive, and confident than last year and even training camp. @JonTWCNews EJ himself says same thing and believes previous experience w/ offensive guys (Woods, Watkins, etc) helps bc report already there. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think you need to play EJ... Â Tyrod is hobbled and I have to think that playing with an MCL sprain makes a more serious knee injury more likely. Â Tyrod has pretty much been ineffective passing the ball for a couple of games now. Let's let him heal up and see if EJ can play well. If so, we have a good problem. If not, we know about EJ going forward. Â I don't see how putting out a busted up Tyrod helps anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 We feel we have our QBs of the present and the future in Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel. "Is the future...now?!?" Â This hot take and more coming to a thread near you after the EJ led Bills beat the Bengals this Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well it's no surprise what a player gets better with real NFL caliber coaching. Â @JonTWCNews Every #Bills player I spoke w/ says EJ Manuel is more accurate, decisive, and confident than last year and even training camp. @JonTWCNews EJ himself says same thing and believes previous experience w/ offensive guys (Woods, Watkins, etc) helps bc report already there. #Bills I don't think Jon could have made a more pot stirring tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Â I wanna see EJM play at least a bit this season. He needs to prove it to the fans, coaches, players, and himself, that he can do the job. Getting some time in now could really help later, in case Tyrod goes down. Edited October 14, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think you need to play EJ... Â Tyrod is hobbled and I have to think that playing with an MCL sprain makes a more serious knee injury more likely. Â Tyrod has pretty much been ineffective passing the ball for a couple of games now. Let's let him heal up and see if EJ can play well. If so, we have a good problem. If not, we know about EJ going forward. Â I don't see how putting out a busted up Tyrod helps anything. I agree with this. The reason Taylor is the starter is because he is able to make plays with his legs when nothing else is there. His speed and elusiveness are his strength. He's not a great pocket passer. If he is unable to get out and run safely, he loses his effectiveness and in my opinion that puts EJ ahead of him in terms of ability to make plays and help the offense be productive. Let TT sit for a week or two and let EJ play. Both showed in preseason that they can run this offense and be productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If EJ plays and does well, but has Sammy, what does that tell us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If EJ plays and does well, but has Sammy, what does that tell us? Â If EJ really lights it up, they won't take him out. I am not sure having Sammy changes that, though it's unfair to TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) If EJ plays and does well, but has Sammy, what does that tell us?  Get off of this stuff already. You gotta produce with what you got. I saw EJ a couple of years ago kill it vs the Jets with Graham and Goodwin as the starting WRs. I was at that game. I remember it well. SJ was injured and Woods was serving a one game suspension for illegal punching.  http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013111700/2013/REG11/jets@bills?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap2000000283521&tab=recap  I thought Hotrod was better than EJ. If he is, he should be able to produce with sub WRs too.  Enough with the excuses. This was even a pre excuse. Edited October 14, 2015 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited)  Get off of this stuff already. You gotta produce with what you got. I saw EJ a couple of years ago kill it vs the Jets with Graham and Goodwin as the starting WRs. I was at that game. I remember it well. Sammy was injured and Woods was serving a one game suspension for illegal punching.  http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013111700/2013/REG11/jets@bills?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap2000000283521&tab=recap  I thought Hotrod was better than EJ. If he is, he should be able to produce with sub WRs too.  Enough with the excuses. This was even a pre excuse. woods wasn't suspended for that punch. He was fined. He didn't punch that guy from Miami until December. That Jets game was in November. If he didn't play, he must have been hurt. Did you mean Stevie instead of Sammy? Edited October 14, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 woods wasn't suspended for that punch. He was fined. He didn't punch that guy from Miami until December. That Jets game was in November. If he didn't play, he must have been hurt. Â Hmmm. Must have been. Bottom line, he didn't play. Graham and Goodwin were the top WRs on the day with 71 and 84 yards respectively. Â And Sammy wasn't on the team yet. I fixed that, but you were too fast for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Â Hmmm. Must have been. Bottom line, he didn't play. Graham and Goodwin were the top WRs on the day with 71 and 84 yards respectively. Â And Sammy wasn't on the team yet. I fixed that, but you were too fast for me! it was EJs best game for sure. Bad weather too if I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Â If EJ really lights it up, they won't take him out. I am not sure having Sammy changes that, though it's unfair to TT. I seem to remember Rex saying that TT is the starter "for now" back around the time they made their decision. It hasn't been repeated to my knowledge but it did make my ears perk up when he said that. Made me think they were hoping that EJ would eventually be the longtime answer. I have been concerned the last couple of weeks with the number of TT's passes that appear to be higher than they should be when they reach the receiver. That's going to be a problem when teams figure out how to limit his running. Don't get me wrong, I like TT but there's stock in being able to see over the big guys up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If only the Pats*** had let Bledsoe heal up and put that Brady guy back on the bench.... Â Lighten up - I'm NOT calling EJ the next Brady. Just wishing a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think you need to play EJ... Â Tyrod is hobbled and I have to think that playing with an MCL sprain makes a more serious knee injury more likely. Â Tyrod has pretty much been ineffective passing the ball for a couple of games now. Let's let him heal up and see if EJ can play well. If so, we have a good problem. If not, we know about EJ going forward. Â I don't see how putting out a busted up Tyrod helps anything. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think you need to play EJ... Â Tyrod is hobbled and I have to think that playing with an MCL sprain makes a more serious knee injury more likely. Â Tyrod has pretty much been ineffective passing the ball for a couple of games now. Let's let him heal up and see if EJ can play well. If so, we have a good problem. If not, we know about EJ going forward. Â I don't see how putting out a busted up Tyrod helps anything. I agree also, I think Tyrod's play has suffered since he first injured it and now it's getting worse. I think he's emergency backup this week and the rest is a smokescreen. Sammy's quotes today agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 People are going to try and talk themselves into whatever they like, that's human nature. But Roman and Ryan picked Taylor over Manuel for a reason, that reason being that in their opinion Taylor gives them the better chance of winning overall. Period. Even when Taylor was obviously banged up Sunday after the pseudo horse collar, they put Manuel in for one play only and it was a simple hand off. Even now after signing a QB off the street, Ryan is still holding out hope that Taylor can still play Sunday. It is exceptionally clear that Roman and Ryan don't view Manuel as an upgrade ... in any regard. I dont know that. and i think you are guessing at best ; ) TT has struggled mostly. But of course he is only five games in , and less then 100% since preseason per Rex. The right thing to do is give the reins back to tyrod once he is full go. Sooner if EJ stinks it up. and Later if EJM shines. I dont care if they switch them up during the game honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If EJ comes in and plays well.....that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Play em both! Sincerely, Urban Meyer  /s this. seriously. no one does it. Trend setting. ahead of the curve. it just might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ian Rappoport said on NFLN that EJ is the likely starter and also mentioned that some in the organization still think he can become the franchise QB. Might just be Whaley, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 TT knows the rule  As a QB you NEVER leave the field.....cuz you might not get back on I think this is exactly what he is thinking. very competitive those two!  Let TT know he can sit and is still the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ian Rappoport said on NFLN that EJ is the likely starter and also mentioned that some in the organization still think he can become the franchise QB. Might just be Whaley, but who knows? I think it's more than just Whaley. Rex did say that he wanted to develop EJ and from what we saw in preseason, that appeared to be exactly what they were doing. [no tea leaves were harmed in making this assessment] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I don't think Jon could have made a more pot stirring tweet. no kidding, wow!! Â here we go this thing ? It's on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ian Rappoport said on NFLN that EJ is the likely starter and also mentioned that some in the organization still think he can become the franchise QB. Might just be Whaley, but who knows?i don't doubt that, he looks good in the new system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think this is exactly what he is thinking. very competitive those two! Â Let TT know he can sit and is still the starter. No reason for him to think otherwise...until the situation changes. Those two are in practice together every day and know each other's capabilities. If TT is nervous, that can only mean good things for the team overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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