BobbyC81 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 We don't have a meddling owner thank god They "meddled" the last time there was talk of him being let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 They "meddled" the last time there was talk of him being let go. Because they hadn't reached their season ticket goal yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Fred was a good teammate and a good leader, but the writing was on the wall as far as what he has left. The best thing the Bills could do is cut him now after the nice run he had the other day. All 31 other teams saw that highlight. His chances of landing with another team are at their greatest right now. Good luck to you FJ! You are all class. Edited August 31, 2015 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 So how did they convince the Pegulas after Freddie ripped off his 40+ yard run? You mean the one in which Vince Wilfork could have caught him from behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Not so sure at his age he finds work someone else. There've been backs with better numbers not being able to find work at 34. I always hoped Fred stayed with the Bills when his playing career was over. Either as a coach, front office job, scout, etc Edited August 31, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 So how did they convince the Pegulas after Freddie ripped off his 40+ yard run? It's the only way to make cap room for Dareus? That is the only thing that lets me wrap my head around this. Best case scenario is that Freddy isn't picked up by another team and is resigned by the Bills at a lower salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwolf02 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Extremely tough day to say goodbye to Fred. I bought a custom throwback Jackson jersey at some point his rookie year after the Washington game. Loved his effort, loved the guy, love an underdog. I had to be one of the first 50 people to get a Freddie Bills jersey! I wish him luck anywhere, even NE, and even against us as long as we win (especially at the ralph). I tend to believe I enjoyed rooting for a mediocre team filled with guys I loved - Fred, Fitz, George Wilson, CJ, even Stevie.... more than I might a winning team with Percy, Richie, and LeSean... Edited August 31, 2015 by jwolf02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Fans who support one player more than the overall team = RJ Well that settles it. The fan police are out in full duty ITT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 You mean the one in which Vince Wilfork could have caught him from behind? Watch it now. C`mon . Maybe big Ted Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm sure this has been said countless times in 39 pages of posts just on this thread. But, it seems to me that Fred brings so many intangibles and locker room leadership (esp. needed if you're willing to bring in all these 2nd chancers) that even if Bryce and Boobie can gain more yards than him this year, he should have been the choice for that roster spot over either of them. I doubt the difference between them and him talentwise is more than what he brings to the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm sure this has been said countless times in 39 pages of posts just on this thread. But, it seems to me that Fred brings so many intangibles and locker room leadership (esp. needed if you're willing to bring in all these 2nd chancers) that even if Bryce and Boobie can gain more yards than him this year, he should have been the choice for that roster spot over either of them. I doubt the difference between them and him talentwise is more than what he brings to the locker room. Kyle Williams will be the voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 BOOOOO. ! ! ! As much as I like the bills I hope Fred sticks it to em. Even with playoffs on the line. Ungrateful bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 BOOOOO. ! ! ! As much as I like the bills I hope Fred sticks it to em. Even with playoffs on the line. Ungrateful bastards. Grade A fan right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Grade A fan right here Up urs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Fred was cut because they needed to shed salary and so this was a no brainer. You see, if Taylor starts over 50% of the games in 2015 then the Bills would be forced to pay him a full salary (cant remember the figure, but maybe 6,000,000). Cassel will be next. Again cost savings move. They are shedding where they may so that they can create a funding for Gilmore and Darius. Prediction, look for Tampa to trade for O'Leary. He was Winston's reliable target. Im suprised that he hasnt stood out. Perhaps he chose not to. Maybe he wants to get cut so that, but till definitely land in Tampa shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 There really is no debate. Everyone knows it was a horrible decision to cut him. Everyone knows it wasn't a football decision. Everyone os pissed off. And everyone is resigned to these facts and prepared to move on as fans accordingly. Those trying to hijack the majority with snark are message board trolls, or plants with agendas. We all know it. Not much left to say. On to the football with a carryover of bitterness for the injustice done to Fred. That's it. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm sure this has been mentioned ad nauseam but my biggest concern is pass protection. Fred had a real knack for that. Good point. He was an excellent blocker. Hopefully Karlos is a good blocker who can also be a threat on third down the D has to account for? There really is no debate. Everyone knows it was a horrible decision to cut him. Everyone knows it wasn't a football decision. Everyone os pissed off. And everyone is resigned to these facts and prepared to move on as fans accordingly. Those trying to hijack the majority with snark are message board trolls, or plants with agendas. We all know it. Not much left to say. On to the football with a carryover of bitterness for the injustice done to Fred. That's it. Done. I think it was probably a football decision. Can I say that? Does that make me not everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good point. He was an excellent blocker. Hopefully Karlos is a good blocker who can also be a threat on third down the D has to account for? I think it was probably a football decision. Can I say that? Does that make me not everyone? Not when it comes to negativo. His tin foil hat is on and has everything figured out. Anyone who agrees with the decision is planted here by Whaley and Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm watching the broadcast and they're talking about how Freddy is the current most beloved player. Still seems a little crazy he's gone, but, NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 This thread has to be the all time TBD overreaction thread. Fred was great. He'll be missed. But I've read this is worse than SB Losses? The Pegulas kept him on to sell tickets in a bait and switch? He never fumbled? It was strategic. Just win, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Kyle Williams will be the voice. You need more than one or two leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 This is the first decision since the Pegulas took over that I fully think was the wrong decision. Fred is the heart and soul of this team. To be so close to the cusp of a Playoff run type season, and think he will miss it after all his years and effort, is a shame. Yeah he's old and whatever.. But he's easily the 3rd, if not 2nd, best back on the team. It just makes no sense at all to me. He's the most loved player on the team and he's cut. Reminds me of when the cut Thurman, Bruce, and Andre. Just disheartening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Legend has it, Azor Ahai labored for 30 days to create the sword that would defeat the darkness only to have it break. He tried again for 50 days and nights, and it broke again. Only on the third try, after laboring for 100 days and nights and driving the blade through his loving wife's heart did he form the mythical weapon that would defeat the darkness. We just cut out our heart guys. Bring on the playoffs. Edited September 1, 2015 by Rex'sOffense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdaigler Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I JUST BOUGHT A FREDDY JERSEY SATURDAY AT THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!! Wear it with pride!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm sure this has been said countless times in 39 pages of posts just on this thread. But, it seems to me that Fred brings so many intangibles and locker room leadership (esp. needed if you're willing to bring in all these 2nd chancers) that even if Bryce and Boobie can gain more yards than him this year, he should have been the choice for that roster spot over either of them. I doubt the difference between them and him talentwise is more than what he brings to the locker room. This team is not lacking for leadership, regardless. You can argue the virtues of Freddy vs. Brown, but you can leave Boobie Dixon out of the discussion. His ST abilities put him in a different class entirely. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I don't understand the "leak it to the fans" part - the fans get it faster than the press? not likely.... The "dress one more time/coin toss" thing might be appropriate if Fred wanted to retire. Evidently he doesn't and is hoping to catch on with another team, thus they cut him early to give him his best shot. Maybe a simple, understated, affair like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjAnmlEN8rI But without the open infidelity to his wife, and (alleged) mob connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Up urs 16 pages are not enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So how did they convince the Pegulas after Freddie ripped off his 40+ yard run? Probably after they showed the Pegulas that it was the same time as an 80-yard run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Fred was cut because they needed to shed salary and so this was a no brainer. You see, if Taylor starts over 50% of the games in 2015 then the Bills would be forced to pay him a full salary (cant remember the figure, but maybe 6,000,000). Cassel will be next. Again cost savings move. They are shedding where they may so that they can create a funding for Gilmore and Darius. Prediction, look for Tampa to trade for O'Leary. He was Winston's reliable target. Im suprised that he hasnt stood out. Perhaps he chose not to. Maybe he wants to get cut so that, but till definitely land in Tampa shortly after. I've been super busy today and haven't had the chance to read anything. What will be cap savings of keeping Brown, etc. vs. Fred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 @TBNSports: Thousands sign online petition asking #Bills to re-sign @Fred22Jackson http://t.co/JOiQJOQyBQhttp://t.co/Ox2IlFaPDx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2ITRich Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 What would you rather have?.... a slow 41 yard gain, or a really quick 4 yard gain. I go with the 41 yarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) I've been super busy today and haven't had the chance to read anything. What will be cap savings of keeping Brown, etc. vs. Fred? Brown is about a shade over 2m less Keeping Williams in boobies role would have another good chunk saved, if we go to 3. Edited September 1, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Brown is about a shade over 2m less Keeping Williams in boobies role would have another good chunk saved, if we go to 3. If we keep three, it ain't Boobie that's leaving. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2ITRich Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Bryce Brown's base salary is $665K for 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Brown is about a shade over 2m less Keeping Williams in boobies role would have another good chunk saved, if we go to 3. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Fred deserved a proper send off. Everyone knew his time in Buffalo was coming to an end. To cut him, two weeks before the season opener is a slap in the face to him. You had players (AW) wearing his number to honor him, Bradham saying he was devastated and KW/Eric Wood saying they are shocked and stunned by what happened. Here we are two weeks before the start of the season and we cut one of the most respected players in the history of our organization. Let him go in March, give him a Steve Smith type retirement ending season, don't cut him with Ross Cockrell and a bunch of guys who won't even be in this league again. It was the wrong way to go about parting ways. The board had the same if not a larger explosion at the rumor surfacing in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Some of you guys really need to get a grip. Loved FJ but his time had come and gone. The Bills made the right move again. Maybe not a fan favorite, but the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norton20 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I kind of understand it but I totally do not like it. I think it is very short sighted. Some times contributions to winning teams comes from more than the measurables. Fred can contribute in so many ways to this team. I'd take him over Bryce Brown in a heart beat. I wish they had let him play this year and give him the option to retire afterwards. You can find a dozen Bryce Browns in the draft from round 4 on so why not keep the intangibles on this team this year. Hate the decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 this sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 fred made the cut to get that 40 yard gain that most running backs wouldnt have, he ran like water moves downhill, when brown runs right into the pile and fumbles, we will never know the cut that fred would have made to make it down just to the 1 yard line because he was a little slow. A little slow was still alot better than running stupidly into a blocker, which is why the moron spiller got let go in march. So now we see the end of the classy fj and welcome the likes of ik, incognito and harvin, sigh. So long Fred, you were a great Bill. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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