Would you be upset if the bills went with 2 OL picks?

[snamsnoops]

After the offseason we've already had, I don't really care who they draft. I feel pretty confident they will be picking players that fit what they are looking for, I'm not going to get bent out of shape regardless of who they draft.

In my mind, I would like to see an OL and a TE with our #2 and #3 pick, but I'm good with whatever they do.

i have to agree.

[....lybob]

without reading the previous posts:

 

no. i´d be delighted.

 

let´s just say we have a draft with tre jackson and shaq mason. in the best scenario that means a 3rd and a 5th.

 

leaves the 2nd for BPA, the 2 6 rders for whatever is there ( even ANOTHER OLiner ) and nick boyle and the 7th for fua

50: R2P18

OT D.J. HUMPHRIES

FLORIDA

81: R3P17

G TRE' JACKSON

FLORIDA ST

155: R5P19

C SHAQUILLE MASON

GEORGIA TECH

188: R6P12

TE JESSE JAMES

PENN STATE

194: R6P18

RB KARLOS WILLIAMS

FLORIDA ST

234: R7P17

DE BOBBY RICHARDSON

INDIANA

How about something like this

[Dragonborn10]

Defensive end, safety, corner, and QB are just as important. This team does not need another low round guard.

[Beerball]

How about the Best Player Available at Number 50? And O-Line help with later picks... I really hope (because it makes me feel better) players that were drafted last year will improve this year..

I changed one word and added a few parenthetically to show how I feel about last year's picks.

If the 2 lineman they drafted are BPA, then no I don't mind at all.

What if the FO, coaches & scouts **gasp** lied to you and told you that they drafted BPA?

[Coach Tuesday]

Sure, Henderson fell off at the end of last season. That said, CK couldn't see any time at all. He was THAT bad.

 

You know that I am Crimson Tide fan and have seen all of his games. My take is that he is injured and never was so great. He is however a great kid and it would be wonderful for him, Bills fans, and the Bills if he could produce. Counting on this to happen, imo, is not smart money.

 

Jmo and hoping to be wrong.

 

Never? CK was a five star recruit (as was Seantrel). Those guys are pretty rare and their bust rates are much lower.

 

CK looked like a disaster in the preseason last year - it looked as though his feet were cement blocks. He clearly wasn't ready for the NFL. That said, I don't trust a single thing that happened under Marrone on the offensive side of the ball - Doug Marrone also was not ready for the NFL. Let's see what a professional coaching staff can do with Glenn, Wood, and 2 five star recruits - and let the rest of the guys fight it out for the last guard spot, someone has to emerge based upon pure numbers.

 

I want any of a QB, a pass rushing linebacker, or a tight end at 50, unless a highly touted tackle slips to 50.

 

Although despite all of what I just said, yeah I'd be fine with two OLs.

[BarleyNY]

In the 2nd and 3rd round?

 

Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that

 

- Perhaps a OT at 50.....

- Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round?

 

I'm looking BPA, preferably at a position of need for both picks and OG and OT still seem to be among the team's needs so it wouldn't be the worst thing.. Still, I'd rather see one OL and a different area addressed with those two picks. Besides, there's only so much youth you can put out on an OL at once. Edited April 11, 2015 by BarleyNY

[aristocrat]

I think we would be losing depth at some other positions. We need another def end, lb, safety and a qb

[ALF]

All you have to do is look at the Cowboys OL to see big results

[frogger]

 

 

 

I agree

 

CBF

I'm with you and a corner, if they do officially make Graham a safety.

[The Jokeman]

It can be debated the Bills need one starter on the O-line, to man one of the OG spots as see our current line being Glenn, Williams*, Wood, Incognito and Henderson. With Williams being the biggest question mark. Now our depth is a bit questionable with Richardson, Urbik and Kujo the top options. Yet I have a feeling we might sign a vet after May 12 (as it won't count against us in the quest for compensation picks). So to me taking more than one with our top 2 picks a bit of an over kill as we also need help at depth at SS, TE, LB,and DE/DT. Also O-lineman generally can't hep ST and we just lost our 3rd best ST in UFA Larry Dean a few days ago.

Edited April 11, 2015 by The Jokeman

[xsoldier54]

I would be upset,but I don't believe they'll go there. I think they'll draft a G in either the 2nd or third, but not an OL in both rounds.

[3rdand12]

Certainly makes it less of a need, but Spikes is a short term answer. We need another young ILB, IMO.

what?

do you know how old Spikes is?

Lawson is next up for replacement, then K Williams then M Williams then Leodis.

 

I dont feel good about drafting two more OL early.

But if its BPA so be it.

I don't disagree. That is kind of my point. They still need a starting caliber OL but then the depth should be there. Those other guys are petty good depth and I expect the young guys from last year to grow. If they draft 2 then 1 of the above guys will be cut. Maybe Cyril or Cyrus? I'd rather not dump either dominant college OL without the proper coaching. I want Kromer to work with these guys at least for a year and then decide. They just aren't in a place to use their 2nd AND 3rd on the same position. If they want to take another flier late on a Henderson type with ?? go for it.

Great posts from both you and John.

The only pick I would find disappointing would be a RB or a WR.

and these are what i think they might pick.

But lets not discount TE and DE/DT

[ALF]

I'll go with 2 OL picks, but try to trade up or down so they fall near BPA

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I agree with bpa, period. They are really out of hole filling mode and now just need star firepower... At any spot.

[thebandit27]

Only if they were "forced" picks.

 

If the 2 OLmen were clearly value picks, then I'm fine.

 

That said, I really expect I see a DLmen at 50.

[Bill from NYC]

 

Never? CK was a five star recruit (as was Seantrel). Those guys are pretty rare and their bust rates are much lower.

 

CK looked like a disaster in the preseason last year - it looked as though his feet were cement blocks. He clearly wasn't ready for the NFL. That said, I don't trust a single thing that happened under Marrone on the offensive side of the ball - Doug Marrone also was not ready for the NFL. Let's see what a professional coaching staff can do with Glenn, Wood, and 2 five star recruits - and let the rest of the guys fight it out for the last guard spot, someone has to emerge based upon pure numbers.

 

I want any of a QB, a pass rushing linebacker, or a tight end at 50, unless a highly touted tackle slips to 50.

 

Although despite all of what I just said, yeah I'd be fine with two OLs.

Coach, I thought that he was WAY overrated in college. Barrett Jones was a superior LT and I think that Saban moved Jones to Center and CK to LT because it was Jones's last year and he had to fill the LT position for the following season. This of couse is just a theory.

Again, I hope that he kicks ass but he has injury issues and the fact that he didn't see the field last season in a real concern.

[#34fan]

I was screaming for Dave Decastro in the first round a few years back... This year I'm not so sure.... Maybe a stud center... I'd rather go TE, WR, RB, or DE... if Rex can build a great defense, I feel steel will sharpen steel in TC, and practices..

[RK_BillsFan]

I would be upset, only in the fact that I do not believe picking 2 OL is A) Needed/Warranted with the 2nd and 3rd round picks B)would give us instant contributors to a team that needs individuals to come in and play in specific roles. I put this together for you guys to look at quickly, courtesy of Spotrac:

 

I apologize for the long lists, I'll leave markers to make it easier to jump ahead to the point of this post:

 

Key players contracts coming up in 2016:

Marcell Dareus

Matt Cassel

Percy Harvin

Stephon Gilmore

Fred Jackson

Nigel Bradham

Cordy Glenn

Rich Incognito

Ron Brooks

Bryce Brown

Marcus Thigpen

Nick Robey

Stefan Charles

Ty Powell

MarQueis Gray

Bacarri Rambo

Chris Hogan

Corbin Bryant

Kenny Ladler

Key Players contracts ending in 2017:

Leodis McKelvin

Manny Lawson

EJ Manuel

Kraig Urbrik

Robert Woods

Anthony Dixon

Jarius Wynn

Marquise Goodwin

Duke Williams

Johnathan Meeks

Chris Gragg

Jeff Tuel

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Players in my mind playing for their jobs the for the following seasons:

(2016)

Ron Brooks

Bryce Brown

Marcus Thigpen

Nick Robey

Stefan Charles

Ty Powell

MarQueis Gray

Bacarri Rambo

Chris Hogan

Corbin Bryant

Kenny Ladler

(2017)

Manny Lawson

EJ Manuel

Kraig Urbrik

Jarius Wynn

Marquise Goodwin

Duke Williams

Johnathan Meeks

Chris Gragg

Jeff Tuel

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Looking ahead, I would say with pretty good certainty that we will be sorting out our Safety, CB, and TE position in the next year or two. We have several players that are essentially trying to hold down their shots of being on the roster when their contracts come up. In terms of OL and this Draft. I would be ELATED to grab Ali Marpet in the 3rd if he is there for us to take. Other than that there are a few OT/G that I think would be worth the second/third round selection. I just think there will be a player of better value at other positions when we draft 50th overall. We are PAINFULLY thin at TE, and on paper we appear equally thin at LB although Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes will probably play some sort of LB hybrid position.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Contract wise, the players I think that are done as far as being on the team a year from now:

Lets start with the retirement of Fred Jackson, I love the man, but I think his time has come

Bryce Brown and Marcus Thigpen: Brown is fumble prone and could easily be replaced with a new young RB in the 2016 draft especially if FJAX is let go(I would be more inclined to keep FJAX on a 1-2 yr contract to groom his replacement that would be drafted). Marcus Thigpen, I love the guy as a return man, but I could see us letting him go, mainly in an attempt to keep Harvin and give those duties to him.

Kenny Ladler and Bacarri Rambo: One of these 2 is gone imo. Rambo might have been the hero in the game against the Packers, but i'm sure I don't have to point out how lucky he was on 1 of his picks that Rodgers didn't Nelson taking the top off our D. Kenny has not done anything to wow me.

Ron Brooks and Nick Robey: 1 of these two is also gone. I know that Rex loves his CBs like Parcells loved his LBs, but sometimes you gotta sift through the dirt and decide when to dig a new patch. IMO Ron Brooks goes, Robey has done amazing when given the chance, even with the limitation of his size.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Contracts that we will be watching unfold:

BTW current Active Contracts for 2016 is 125 million and anticipated Cap will be 150+ million (need roughly 5 million for rookies)

 

Mario Williams: Restructures to gain a long term contract, and save us money for........ (lets say 16 million so we can drop the active amount to 121 million)

Marcell Dareus: Gets a 16 million a year contract eased by the restructuring mentioned above.

Matt Cassel: New deal, who knows when this gets done, but we need a Vet - maybe we replace him with someone else.

Percy Harvin: IMO does well enough to get the second and third years of his contract: That's currently 6 Million (or we could let him walk)

Stephon Gilmore: 6-8 Million a year, bonus money upfront to ease the following years

Fred Jackson: Gone (broken hearts forever)

Nigel Bradham: 3-5 Million a Year

Cordy Glenn: 4-7 Million a Year Pending Performance

Rich Incognito: 3.5 Million a year - we drop Chris Williams contract and give it to Richie (we end up with a wash moneywise here)

We are going to have to be really creative with our contracts, because I see us needing to come up with about 10 million that we don't have in 2016 unless we drop some contracts and restructure some other ones.

[Luxy312]

Would I be upset? No. If they feel they need the depth then get the depth. I just don't think that's realistic. I like them to take a linebacker with one or the other pick and then follow it with the opposite. Just what I think.

[JESSEFEFFER]

Whether it was Manuel or Orton last year, the O-line simply could not do their jobs well enough for the offense to function. To many breakdowns in protection and not enough push or agility to make anything work consistently. If the line is fixed this year and can get to the top half of the league, the Bills will have a great season. If it took 2nd and 3rd round picks to add to the mix to get it done, I would not care. Whatever it takes. Fix it.

[3rdand12]

 

I would be upset, only in the fact that I do not believe picking 2 OL is A) Needed/Warranted with the 2nd and 3rd round picks B)would give us instant contributors to a team that needs individuals to come in and play in specific roles. I put this together for you guys to look at quickly, courtesy of Spotrac:

 

I apologize for the long lists, I'll leave markers to make it easier to jump ahead to the point of this post:

 

Key players contracts coming up in 2016:

Marcell Dareus

Matt Cassel

Percy Harvin

Stephon Gilmore

Fred Jackson

Nigel Bradham

Cordy Glenn

Rich Incognito

Ron Brooks

Bryce Brown

Marcus Thigpen

Nick Robey

Stefan Charles

Ty Powell

MarQueis Gray

Bacarri Rambo

Chris Hogan

Corbin Bryant

Kenny Ladler

Key Players contracts ending in 2017:

Leodis McKelvin

Manny Lawson

EJ Manuel

Kraig Urbrik

Robert Woods

Anthony Dixon

Jarius Wynn

Marquise Goodwin

Duke Williams

Johnathan Meeks

Chris Gragg

Jeff Tuel

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Players in my mind playing for their jobs the for the following seasons:

(2016)

Ron Brooks

Bryce Brown

Marcus Thigpen

Nick Robey

Stefan Charles

Ty Powell

MarQueis Gray

Bacarri Rambo

Chris Hogan

Corbin Bryant

Kenny Ladler

(2017)

Manny Lawson

EJ Manuel

Kraig Urbrik

Jarius Wynn

Marquise Goodwin

Duke Williams

Johnathan Meeks

Chris Gragg

Jeff Tuel

-----------------------------------------------------

Looking ahead, I would say with pretty good certainty that we will be sorting out our Safety, CB, and TE position in the next year or two. We have several players that are essentially trying to hold down their shots of being on the roster when their contracts come up. In terms of OL and this Draft. I would be ELATED to grab Ali Marpet in the 3rd if he is there for us to take. Other than that there are a few OT/G that I think would be worth the second/third round selection. I just think there will be a player of better value at other positions when we draft 50th overall. We are PAINFULLY thin at TE, and on paper we appear equally thin at LB although Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes will probably play some sort of LB hybrid position.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Contract wise, the players I think that are done as far as being on the team a year from now:

Lets start with the retirement of Fred Jackson, I love the man, but I think his time has come

Bryce Brown and Marcus Thigpen: Brown is fumble prone and could easily be replaced with a new young RB in the 2016 draft especially if FJAX is let go(I would be more inclined to keep FJAX on a 1-2 yr contract to groom his replacement that would be drafted). Marcus Thigpen, I love the guy as a return man, but I could see us letting him go, mainly in an attempt to keep Harvin and give those duties to him.

Kenny Ladler and Bacarri Rambo: One of these 2 is gone imo. Rambo might have been the hero in the game against the Packers, but i'm sure I don't have to point out how lucky he was on 1 of his picks that Rodgers didn't Nelson taking the top off our D. Kenny has not done anything to wow me.

Ron Brooks and Nick Robey: 1 of these two is also gone. I know that Rex loves his CBs like Parcells loved his LBs, but sometimes you gotta sift through the dirt and decide when to dig a new patch. IMO Ron Brooks goes, Robey has done amazing when given the chance, even with the limitation of his size.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Contracts that we will be watching unfold:

BTW current Active Contracts for 2016 is 125 million and anticipated Cap will be 150+ million (need roughly 5 million for rookies)

 

Mario Williams: Restructures to gain a long term contract, and save us money for........ (lets say 16 million so we can drop the active amount to 121 million)

Marcell Dareus: Gets a 16 million a year contract eased by the restructuring mentioned above.

Matt Cassel: New deal, who knows when this gets done, but we need a Vet - maybe we replace him with someone else.

Percy Harvin: IMO does well enough to get the second and third years of his contract: That's currently 6 Million (or we could let him walk)

Stephon Gilmore: 6-8 Million a year, bonus money upfront to ease the following years

Fred Jackson: Gone (broken hearts forever)

Nigel Bradham: 3-5 Million a Year

Cordy Glenn: 4-7 Million a Year Pending Performance

Rich Incognito: 3.5 Million a year - we drop Chris Williams contract and give it to Richie (we end up with a wash moneywise here)

We are going to have to be really creative with our contracts, because I see us needing to come up with about 10 million that we don't have in 2016 unless we drop some contracts and restructure some other ones.

 

Damn Man !

thats some serious thinking right there!!

[Formerly Allan in MD]

Not necessarily but it won't happen.

[billsfan89]

Teams are built along the lines. Investing in the O-line is always a good idea. So drafting two with the first two picks would be a solid move. Unnecessary to do based on need but overall it's not a bad strategy.

[RK_BillsFan]

I still just can't see there not being another person at another position available with our first two picks. There is going to be a lot of talent to be found in rounds 2 and 3, and with such a deep WR draft class, and D line, some of the stuff we need is going to fall to us.

[John from Riverside]

 

I would be upset, only in the fact that I do not believe picking 2 OL is A) Needed/Warranted with the 2nd and 3rd round picks B)would give us instant contributors to a team that needs individuals to come in and play in specific roles. I put this together for you guys to look at quickly, courtesy of Spotrac:

 

I apologize for the long lists, I'll leave markers to make it easier to jump ahead to the point of this post:

 

Key players contracts coming up in 2016:

Marcell Dareus

Matt Cassel

Percy Harvin

Stephon Gilmore

Fred Jackson

Nigel Bradham

Cordy Glenn

Rich Incognito

Ron Brooks

Bryce Brown

Marcus Thigpen

Nick Robey

Stefan Charles

Ty Powell

MarQueis Gray

Bacarri Rambo

Chris Hogan

Corbin Bryant

Kenny Ladler

Key Players contracts ending in 2017:

Leodis McKelvin

Manny Lawson

EJ Manuel

Kraig Urbrik

Robert Woods

Anthony Dixon

Jarius Wynn

Marquise Goodwin

Duke Williams

Johnathan Meeks

Chris Gragg

Jeff Tuel

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Players in my mind playing for their jobs the for the following seasons:

(2016)

Ron Brooks

Bryce Brown

Marcus Thigpen

Nick Robey

Stefan Charles

Ty Powell

MarQueis Gray

Bacarri Rambo

Chris Hogan

Corbin Bryant

Kenny Ladler

(2017)

Manny Lawson

EJ Manuel

Kraig Urbrik

Jarius Wynn

Marquise Goodwin

Duke Williams

Johnathan Meeks

Chris Gragg

Jeff Tuel

-----------------------------------------------------

Looking ahead, I would say with pretty good certainty that we will be sorting out our Safety, CB, and TE position in the next year or two. We have several players that are essentially trying to hold down their shots of being on the roster when their contracts come up. In terms of OL and this Draft. I would be ELATED to grab Ali Marpet in the 3rd if he is there for us to take. Other than that there are a few OT/G that I think would be worth the second/third round selection. I just think there will be a player of better value at other positions when we draft 50th overall. We are PAINFULLY thin at TE, and on paper we appear equally thin at LB although Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes will probably play some sort of LB hybrid position.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Contract wise, the players I think that are done as far as being on the team a year from now:

Lets start with the retirement of Fred Jackson, I love the man, but I think his time has come

Bryce Brown and Marcus Thigpen: Brown is fumble prone and could easily be replaced with a new young RB in the 2016 draft especially if FJAX is let go(I would be more inclined to keep FJAX on a 1-2 yr contract to groom his replacement that would be drafted). Marcus Thigpen, I love the guy as a return man, but I could see us letting him go, mainly in an attempt to keep Harvin and give those duties to him.

Kenny Ladler and Bacarri Rambo: One of these 2 is gone imo. Rambo might have been the hero in the game against the Packers, but i'm sure I don't have to point out how lucky he was on 1 of his picks that Rodgers didn't Nelson taking the top off our D. Kenny has not done anything to wow me.

Ron Brooks and Nick Robey: 1 of these two is also gone. I know that Rex loves his CBs like Parcells loved his LBs, but sometimes you gotta sift through the dirt and decide when to dig a new patch. IMO Ron Brooks goes, Robey has done amazing when given the chance, even with the limitation of his size.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Contracts that we will be watching unfold:

BTW current Active Contracts for 2016 is 125 million and anticipated Cap will be 150+ million (need roughly 5 million for rookies)

 

Mario Williams: Restructures to gain a long term contract, and save us money for........ (lets say 16 million so we can drop the active amount to 121 million)

Marcell Dareus: Gets a 16 million a year contract eased by the restructuring mentioned above.

Matt Cassel: New deal, who knows when this gets done, but we need a Vet - maybe we replace him with someone else.

Percy Harvin: IMO does well enough to get the second and third years of his contract: That's currently 6 Million (or we could let him walk)

Stephon Gilmore: 6-8 Million a year, bonus money upfront to ease the following years

Fred Jackson: Gone (broken hearts forever)

Nigel Bradham: 3-5 Million a Year

Cordy Glenn: 4-7 Million a Year Pending Performance

Rich Incognito: 3.5 Million a year - we drop Chris Williams contract and give it to Richie (we end up with a wash moneywise here)

We are going to have to be really creative with our contracts, because I see us needing to come up with about 10 million that we don't have in 2016 unless we drop some contracts and restructure some other ones.

 

OK but.....

 

Why wouldnt you take 2 OL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of this upcoming draft?

 

L.O.L

[RK_BillsFan]

Because we have other positions that are of equal or greater need and I find it impossible for you to tell me that there won't be a TE or LB significantly higher rated than linemen at 50 AND 81.

 

We have 8 Linemen already on the team (12 but the other 4 seem like camp bodies)

 

We have 3 TE's........ number 2 is MarQueis Gray and number 3 is Chris Gragg...... thats not exactly a stellar amount of depth.

 

We have 3 TRUE Linebackers and 2 of them are strictly back ups. Yes Mario Williams, Jerry Hughes and Manny Lawson will be hybrid LB/DE's but i'm sure they would like an upgrade over Ty Powell and Randell Johnson.

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Why did I post the info about contract info? Because you can't just look at needs you have this year. You have to look at needs next year and the year after. You need to look at positions you know for a fact will either be open or will need to be sacrificed.

 

We are going to draft at least 1 linemen this draft (I do not think we take 2 with the first 2 picks). That gives us 10. Chris Williams IMO is gone after this year, thats down to 9. The year after we let Urbrik go/retire, thats down to 8. IMO Kouandjio was a terrible pick and made me furious last year the second we took him. IMO we draft someone better in 2016/2017 and he's replaced.

 

The Bills are looking for immediate starters with their first 2 picks. We do not have 2 spots on the O-line and with such limited picks, spending both of our first two picks attempting to fiddle with te O-line is a luxury we do NOT and can NOT afford. If we had a first, and a 4th this year, I would have no problem with the double linemen draft to start things off. But we NEED to hit on 50 and 81.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

I would love to draft 2 lineman, Remember Cordy is going into his contract yr and Incognito is also. Chris Williams might be a June 1st cap casualty. 2 scenarios I would love to see.

 

#1 2nd Rd Lt Jake Fisher, 3rd Rd Ali Market

 

#2 2nd Rd Laken Tomlinson, 3rd Rd LT Donavon Smith

[Homey D. Clown]

In the 2nd and 3rd round?

 

Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that

 

- Perhaps a OT at 50.....

- Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round?

 

 

 

If there are some "Can't Miss" guys left on the board, then I'm OK with it. If there are some potential 3-5 ranked QBs on the board, then I say pull the trigger on that need in Rd3, and go for your can't miss OL in Rd2.

[thebandit27]

Teams are built along the lines. Investing in the O-line is always a good idea. So drafting two with the first two picks would be a solid move. Unnecessary to do based on need but overall it's not a bad strategy.

 

Just curious as to your opinion here: which teams, aside from Dallas, are built along the OL?

 

I honestly cannot think of a single one. Maybe SF...

[stevestojan]

I'd be upset if they didn't.

[John from Riverside]

Because we have other positions that are of equal or greater need and I find it impossible for you to tell me that there won't be a TE or LB significantly higher rated than linemen at 50 AND 81.

 

We have 8 Linemen already on the team (12 but the other 4 seem like camp bodies)

 

We have 3 TE's........ number 2 is MarQueis Gray and number 3 is Chris Gragg...... thats not exactly a stellar amount of depth.

 

We have 3 TRUE Linebackers and 2 of them are strictly back ups. Yes Mario Williams, Jerry Hughes and Manny Lawson will be hybrid LB/DE's but i'm sure they would like an upgrade over Ty Powell and Randell Johnson.

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Why did I post the info about contract info? Because you can't just look at needs you have this year. You have to look at needs next year and the year after. You need to look at positions you know for a fact will either be open or will need to be sacrificed.

 

We are going to draft at least 1 linemen this draft (I do not think we take 2 with the first 2 picks). That gives us 10. Chris Williams IMO is gone after this year, thats down to 9. The year after we let Urbrik go/retire, thats down to 8. IMO Kouandjio was a terrible pick and made me furious last year the second we took him. IMO we draft someone better in 2016/2017 and he's replaced.

 

The Bills are looking for immediate starters with their first 2 picks. We do not have 2 spots on the O-line and with such limited picks, spending both of our first two picks attempting to fiddle with te O-line is a luxury we do NOT and can NOT afford. If we had a first, and a 4th this year, I would have no problem with the double linemen draft to start things off. But we NEED to hit on 50 and 81.

A few things

 

- I am totally not against a TE with one of those 1st two picks.....I recognize the need at TE and it is further stressed when you figure that our OC wants a run dominate offense and that is a 2 TE set (although I dont think they brought in Felton to just ride the bench

 

- I agree that the 2nd and 3rd round picks need to hit....which is why if the best players available are OL then how would fans feel about that.

 

There is some depth to the OL position this year.

[San-O]

NO. not at all. I hope they do.

 

Reason: even with the 3 O linemen drafted last year, the O line is no doubt the weakest unit on the Buffalo team.

 

We don't know if any of the O lineman drafted last year will develop, what the issues are and who will fall out. Also, competition is always a good thing

in my book, and someone is going down along the way. The O line was very healthy last year and I would not expect that to occur two years in a row.

 

Chris Williams notwithstanding.

[John from Riverside]

NO. not at all. I hope they do.

 

Reason: even with the 3 O linemen drafted last year, the O line is no doubt the weakest unit on the Buffalo team.

 

We don't know if any of the O lineman drafted last year will develop, what the issues are and who will fall out. Also, competition is always a good thing

in my book, and someone is going down along the way. The O line was very healthy last year and I would not expect that to occur two years in a row.

 

Chris Williams notwithstanding.

I recognize that coaching may have been a huge part of the problem

 

My thing is.....if you are an athlete and you can play then you can play

 

Which makes me nervous about Cyril and Kujo

 

Richardson was having SUCH a hard time with stunts.....I mean he just looked totally lost

 

and

 

Kujo? DID NOT SEE THE FIELD AS A SECOND ROUND PICK.........and looked so bad in training camp that many felt if he was not such a high round pick he would have been cut

 

Chris WIlliams has back issues

 

We are supposed to have confidence that they will develop?

[machine gun kelly]

We need an athletic TE and a Guard.

 

That should be our 2nd and 3rd. Not in that order as has to be the BPA in those positions.

 

After that it is about depth I seriously doubt we get a QB. It's sad as we have a real team now once we get those holes filled and will still maybe be 10-6.

 

I don't know what is the answer as we needed a Carr last year, Wilson 3 years ago, etc. Not the top pick as we didn't have it, but the next guy.

[playman]

we bought an atlethic TE recently. what we need is a guy who can block some. and still be able to catch and run. boyle for example.

 

maybe pj williams will fall to us because of his dwi. that would be my pick at 50. G in 3rd and 5th

[Kirby Jackson]

 

Just curious as to your opinion here: which teams, aside from Dallas, are built along the OL?

 

I honestly cannot think of a single one. Maybe SF...

That is a good point. Dallas is the only one that comes to mind. We will see how much was the OL and how much was Murray. I suspect that both played a pretty big role.

[playman]

something like this:

 

50: R2P18

CB P.J. WILLIAMS

FLORIDA STATE

81: R3P17

G ALI MARPET

HOBART

155: R5P19

C SHAQUILLE MASON

GEORGIA TECH

188: R6P12

S ADRIAN AMOS

PENN STATE

194: R6P18

TE NICK BOYLE

DELAWARE

234: R7P17

QB CODY FAJARDO

NEVADA

though i´d prefer tre jackson over marpet and i doubt amos will be there in the 6th

[Buffaloed in Pa]

I think one of the 1st two picks needs to be LB.

THIS

[thebandit27]

That is a good point. Dallas is the only one that comes to mind. We will see how much was the OL and how much was Murray. I suspect that both played a pretty big role.

Indeed...I suspect both will see a drop off in productivity

[RK_BillsFan]

 

something like this:

 

50: R2P18

CB P.J. WILLIAMS

FLORIDA STATE

81: R3P17

G ALI MARPET

HOBART

155: R5P19

C SHAQUILLE MASON

GEORGIA TECH

188: R6P12

S ADRIAN AMOS

PENN STATE

194: R6P18

TE NICK BOYLE

DELAWARE

234: R7P17

QB CODY FAJARDO

NEVADA

though i´d prefer tre jackson over marpet and i doubt amos will be there in the 6th

 

I would take PJ Williams in a heart beat if he actually falls that far. He won't though.Seattle will pick him up if he falls that far or STL in the early second. But i would go batshit for him. Also as i'm sure a large portion of the board agrees, Ali Marpet is like the perfect player for the Bills team.

 

 

we bought an atlethic TE recently. what we need is a guy who can block some. and still be able to catch and run. boyle for example.

 

 

Why do we need to stop at having 1 Athletic TE? Why can't we have two.....I mean, did the beating the patriots put on us with Gronk/Hernandez hurt so bad you blocked it out completely? I don't think we need a safety honestly. We have so many on the team. CB i'm willing to draft, as well as LB and DT otherwise we need to shore up the Offense, just complete it (minus QB, although i do like Kap 2.0 as our 7th or even 6th)