John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) In the 2nd and 3rd round? Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that - Perhaps a OT at 50..... - Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round? Edited April 10, 2015 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well seeing that they don't need two and drafted a bunch last year.... Yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 In the 2nd and 3rd round? Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that - Perhaps a OT at 50..... - Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round? That wouldn't be ideal at all IMO without a 1st or 4th. They have 3 guys going into year 2 & if they add 2 that is 5. You keep like 9 OL on your team. I wouldn't want 5 guys in years 1-2. I am still in favor of another vet OL that can start. You can always drop Chris Williams and save the $3M to fit a starter under the cap. I am okay with 1 of those 2 picks being a lineman (especially if they can't get a vet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well seeing that they don't need two and drafted a bunch last year.... Yea. Just something to keep in mind - I really want to sign Cordy Glenn.....but we do in fact have some high priced players coming up. We drafted Seantrel Henderson who can play on the left side......and if you drafted Jake Fisher from Oregon he looks to be a very good RT...........the bills might want to cover themselves just in case contract negotiations with Glenn go very wrong. - Cog has been out of the NFL for a year.....the OG and OT we drafted last year are complete unknowns - Urbik is average - Williams has a back injury history Roman's offense is gonna be run heavy.......which means they need players that can move people around up front. We didnt sign anyone in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Draft bpa, if the first two are OL, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think one of the 1st two picks needs to be LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think one of the 1st two picks needs to be LB. I agree CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think one of the 1st two picks needs to be LB. I agree CBF what if we re-sign spikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 One is enough imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) I agree CBF Why a LB.....(I am just curious to see the responses) We appear to be pretty set on the D side of the ball (I would like to see a run stuffing backup DL brought in) Edited April 10, 2015 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 what if we re-sign spikes? Certainly makes it less of a need, but Spikes is a short term answer. We need another young ILB, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The best OT and OG , even trade 2 #6s and a 7 to move up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 OL is one of our biggest needs, so no I wouldn't. We already have a few young guys on the roster that we need to see if they can develop as well. We don't have many other positions of need... could use some depth at LB and TE, but other than that I feel pretty good about drafting the best OL available for the first couple of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) We need a traditional TE as well. TE, OL, LB and obviously QB are still needs. In addition, they still want a big target (TE may take care of that). I can't see this team using it's last 2 real assets (2nd & 3rd) on only 1 position. Just out of curiosity for those that do want 2 where do you see the OL on opening day? If we can't get a vet I see it like this: Glenn-Incognito-Wood-rookie- Seantrel...backups: Chris Williams, Urbik, Cyrus and Cyril. Edited April 10, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 In the 2nd and 3rd round? Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that - Perhaps a OT at 50..... - Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round? I wouldn't be upset, no. But it would strike me as coincidence that the BPA in round 2 last year and rounds 2 and 3 this year all just happen to be OL... could be true I suppose...but it would say to me that the Bills are drafting for need and maybe reaching. That wouldn't be ideal at all IMO without a 1st or 4th. They have 3 guys going into year 2 & if they add 2 that is 5. You keep like 9 OL on your team. I wouldn't want 5 guys in years 1-2. I am still in favor of another vet OL that can start. You can always drop Chris Williams and save the $3M to fit a starter under the cap. I am okay with 1 of those 2 picks being a lineman (especially if they can't get a vet). So right now, the Bills have 1 C and 8 G on the roster, 3 OT, (plus Sanborn). In addition to the vets Incognito, Williams, and Urbik, there are 4 2nd year guys and a 3rd year guy. Several of them I've never heard of and assume they were taxi squad guys signed to futures after the season? Anyway, it says to me the Bills are comfortable going into camp with 12 OLmen and sending the Turk after the weakest links. You normally don't want to draft a guy you might cut, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 We need a traditional TE as well. TE, OL, LB and obviously QB are still needs. In addition, they still want a big target (TE may take care of that). I can't see this team using it's last 2 real assets (2nd & 3rd) on only 1 position. Just out of curiosity for those that do want 2 where do you see the OL on opening day? If we can't get a vet I see it like this: Glenn-Incognito-Wood-rookie- Seantrel...backups: Chris Williams, Urbik, Cyrus and Cyril. Kirby, I think a couple of factors here...... Cyrus might get slid over to OG with this new staff.......and if he can get his career turned around he might even start at one of the OG positions......lets keep in mind that before he had a disaster of a 1st season he was in fact a highly toughted offensive linemen carrying a 1st round grade. Before Chris Williams went out with the back injuries he was NOT doing a bad job.....as a matter of fact I think it was safe to say that our running game started really struggling when he got hurt last year. If they end up going with something else in round 2 and take a OL in the 3rd or later...they might elect to go with the veterans they have and groom the young OL It could end up being a line of Glenn - LT Cog - LG Wood- C Urbik - RG Henderson -RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Kirby, I think a couple of factors here...... Cyrus might get slid over to OG with this new staff.......and if he can get his career turned around he might even start at one of the OG positions......lets keep in mind that before he had a disaster of a 1st season he was in fact a highly toughted offensive linemen carrying a 1st round grade. Before Chris Williams went out with the back injuries he was NOT doing a bad job.....as a matter of fact I think it was safe to say that our running game started really struggling when he got hurt last year. If they end up going with something else in round 2 and take a OL in the 3rd or later...they might elect to go with the veterans they have and groom the young OL It could end up being a line of Glenn - LT Cog - LG Wood- C Urbik - RG Henderson -RT I don't disagree. That is kind of my point. They still need a starting caliber OL but then the depth should be there. Those other guys are petty good depth and I expect the young guys from last year to grow. If they draft 2 then 1 of the above guys will be cut. Maybe Cyril or Cyrus? I'd rather not dump either dominant college OL without the proper coaching. I want Kromer to work with these guys at least for a year and then decide. They just aren't in a place to use their 2nd AND 3rd on the same position. If they want to take another flier late on a Henderson type with ?? go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 I know they are tight on cap money now but I really would like to see another vet brought in......would change my whole draft board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I know they are tight on cap money now but I really would like to see another vet brought in......would change my whole draft boardThey can though because they can cut Chris Williams and save $3M. There is an easy option if they can find the right vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 My simple question (that prob cannot be answered) Is Justin Blaylock a better player then Chris Willams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How about the Best Player Available at Number 50? And O-Line help with later picks... I really believe players that were drafted last year will improve this year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 After the offseason we've already had, I don't really care who they draft. I feel pretty confident they will be picking players that fit what they are looking for, I'm not going to get bent out of shape regardless of who they draft. In my mind, I would like to see an OL and a TE with our #2 and #3 pick, but I'm good with whatever they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 OT/G, TE, LB, QB Rounds: 2, 3, 5, 5 trade away the 6 & 7th rounders to move up into the 5th again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 In the 2nd and 3rd round? Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that - Perhaps a OT at 50..... - Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round? I wouldn't be upset the game is won and lost in the trenches. but I think they take one on day 2 and one on day 3, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 How about the Best Player Available at Number 50? And O-Line help with later picks... I really believe players that were drafted last year will improve this year.. What if best player available IS OL at the 50th pick In all honesty....it seems that the 2nd round is where u start looking for those OT/OG's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 nope ii'd be fine with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 In the 2nd and 3rd round? Was thinkin about what if the bills did exactly that - Perhaps a OT at 50..... - Then if BPA ended up being a OG in the 3rd round? No, but I would be happy with a TE and a DE too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Just something to keep in mind - I really want to sign Cordy Glenn.....but we do in fact have some high priced players coming up. We drafted Seantrel Henderson who can play on the left side......and if you drafted Jake Fisher from Oregon he looks to be a very good RT...........the bills might want to cover themselves just in case contract negotiations with Glenn go very wrong. - Cog has been out of the NFL for a year.....the OG and OT we drafted last year are complete unknowns - Urbik is average - Williams has a back injury history Roman's offense is gonna be run heavy.......which means they need players that can move people around up front. We didnt sign anyone in the offseason. Doubt Fisher will be there but if we get him I'll be stoked if we get him. I think he will be a top left tackle with his athleticism. Then we can get Ali Marpet in the 3rd, there's your two lineman. Would also really like TE Clive Walford, runs really good routes and get's good separation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandiaEast Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The only pick I would find disappointing would be a RB or a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) There's ~14 linemen in this draft that I'd be more than fine getting 2 from: Scherff, La'el Collins, Peat, Clemmings, Humphries, Flowers, Jake Fisher, Cann, Tomlinson, Jackson, Marpet, Kouandjio, Erving, Grasu. There might be a few others guys would put in that group or taken out, but that's mainly the gist of it. I'd really like to move down from 50, pick up an extra pick in the 4th or in '16 3rd and take two out of the above group. Glenn / Henderson / Kouandjio Icogntio / Urbik / (Richardson) / (Williams) Wood If we are going with 9 linemen, there's room for a guy in each the 2nd and 3rd round. That would put one of Urbik / Richardson / Williams on the chopping block, likely Williams as that would be the most cap favorable move and Urbik is likely our backup center (unless it's Richie). Aside from adding another pass rusher (can never have too many, though I imagine it'll be picked clean by 50), a MLB (some good ones projected around 50, landing someone on Brown's level to replace Kiko would be nice), or a traditional TE (should be a decent one available in the 5th) spending both picks on Olinemen to keep building a competitive deep group would be fine with me. Edited April 10, 2015 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Hell yeah, but good ones this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Just something to keep in mind - I really want to sign Cordy Glenn.....but we do in fact have some high priced players coming up. We drafted Seantrel Henderson who can play on the left side......and if you drafted Jake Fisher from Oregon he looks to be a very good RT...........the bills might want to cover themselves just in case contract negotiations with Glenn go very wrong. - Cog has been out of the NFL for a year.....the OG and OT we drafted last year are complete unknowns - Urbik is average - Williams has a back injury history Roman's offense is gonna be run heavy.......which means they need players that can move people around up front. We didnt sign anyone in the offseason. Henderson was a below average RT last year. Thinking he can man the left side is a major risk. And I'll trust Whaley. But after drafting 2 guys last year, yes it would be disappointing. I think CK is going to surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Henderson was a below average RT last year. Thinking he can man the left side is a major risk. And I'll trust Whaley. But after drafting 2 guys last year, yes it would be disappointing. I think CK is going to surprise. Sure, Henderson fell off at the end of last season. That said, CK couldn't see any time at all. He was THAT bad. You know that I am Crimson Tide fan and have seen all of his games. My take is that he is injured and never was so great. He is however a great kid and it would be wonderful for him, Bills fans, and the Bills if he could produce. Counting on this to happen, imo, is not smart money. Jmo and hoping to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 BPA and sign a vet OL. Cut Williams. Like to see a LB or S or maybe a DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) without reading the previous posts: no. i´d be delighted. let´s just say we have a draft with tre jackson and shaq mason. in the best scenario that means a 3rd and a 5th. leaves the 2nd for BPA, the 2 6 rders for whatever is there ( even ANOTHER OLiner ) and nick boyle and the 7th for fua Edited April 11, 2015 by playman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 If the 2 lineman they drafted are BPA, then no I don't mind at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMan Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I wouldn't be upset. I would be upset it they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 best player available, unless its a RB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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