BBills14 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 On October 28, 2011, Fitzpatrick signed a six year, $59 million contract extension including a $10 million signing bonus with the Bills. He had three 300-yard performances in the 2011 season, with a season high 369 yards vs. the Patriots. Let's pretend like we were paying him what he's actually worth. Would you rather - Fitzmagic or Cassel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Neither.... Fitz is a 100% certain he will.never lead you to the playoffs. Edited March 24, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Neither.... Fitz is a 100% certain he will.never lead you to the playoffs. This is true... Â Of the two I guess I would have to say Cassel but that is only because we have seen the fallacy that Fitzy was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cassel I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I hate to say it but I think I would rather have Fitz with this offense. Neither are going to be very good. Both are capable of tremendous sucktitude. I think Fitz's smarts would help with this team, and he can probably run a little better. Fitz and Roman would probably have some great discussions and ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I hate to say it but I think I would rather have Fitz with this offense. Neither are going to be very good. Both are capable of tremendous sucktitude. I think Fitz's smarts would help with this team, and he can probably run a little better. Fitz and Roman would probably have some great discussions and ideas. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bftvocal70 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Fitz has gritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hmm, Matt Cassel did lead a team to a division title one year but then again Fitz always seemed to have big games against the Patriots when he played for us. I guess I'll give the edge to Cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I hate to say it but I think I would rather have Fitz with this offense. Neither are going to be very good. Both are capable of tremendous sucktitude. I think Fitz's smarts would help with this team, and he can probably run a little better. Fitz and Roman would probably have some great discussions and ideas. I think Cassel could be very effective...he has performed fairly well on good teams before but none of those teams had the level of talent this one does...I'm predicting a Rich Gannon like comeback where a middling QB takes off once surrounded with offensive weapons...both actually have very similar statistics pre Gannon with the Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I hate to say it but I think I would rather have Fitz with this offense. Neither are going to be very good. Both are capable of tremendous sucktitude. I think Fitz's smarts would help with this team, and he can probably run a little better. Fitz and Roman would probably have some great discussions and ideas. Â I don't mind saying it one bit. I would take Fitz over any one of our quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Fitz but not by a lot. Both have short comings. I hope it works out with Cassel, we aint getting Fitz back anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I hate to say it but I think I would rather have Fitz with this offense. Neither are going to be very good. Both are capable of tremendous sucktitude. I think Fitz's smarts would help with this team, and he can probably run a little better. Fitz and Roman would probably have some great discussions and ideas.Yep, it is weird how Fitz keeps getting run out of places for an inferior QB. It happened here and in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You guys are only saying Fitz because you have no idea what Cassel is going to bring to this team (neither do I just sayin) Â When was the last time Fitz EVER led a team to a 10 win season......or made the pro bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Fitz played on a team with a historically bad defense. One of the worst units the Bills have ever put on the field. Fitz's strength was his attitude and smarts. This defense would be able to recover from the ridiculous INT he would throw from time to time. And Fitz would more than often get 7 points off of a turnover or short filed this defense would create. Fitz and this team would be 11-5 and winners of the AFC East. Â I look at Cassell and I see Jauron's wet dream. Dink and dunk and don't mess it up for the defense. That is not what this team needs. This team needs to score early, score off of turnovers, and then let the defense pressure the QB mercilessly. This team needs an aggressive QB not a Trent Edwards type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 On October 28, 2011, Fitzpatrick signed a six year, $59 million contract extension including a $10 million signing bonus with the Bills. He had three 300-yard performances in the 2011 season, with a season high 369 yards vs. the Patriots. Let's pretend like we were paying him what he's actually worth. Would you rather - Fitzmagic or Cassel? Â Oh my!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You guys are only saying Fitz because you have no idea what Cassel is going to bring to this team (neither do I just sayin) Â When was the last time Fitz EVER led a team to a 10 win season......or made the pro bowl? When was Fitz ever on a good team? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You guys are only saying Fitz because you have no idea what Cassel is going to bring to this team (neither do I just sayin) Â When was the last time Fitz EVER led a team to a 10 win season......or made the pro bowl? Look at Fitz's numbers from last year. I think that you will be surprised at how well he played. You will be really surprised to see that they replaced that production with Mallet and Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Look at Fitz's numbers from last year. I think that you will be surprised at how well he played. You will be really surprised to see that they replaced that production with Mallet and Hoyer. He actually played decent, and I think he is better than Hoyer or Mallet, but his numbers are very skewed by the one game he threw 6 TDs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cassel for 2 reasons: 1st Got sick of defenses sitting on the short routes due to Fitzmagic lack of arm strength. 2nd Cassel had 2 pretty/ very good years on 2 different teams ( that's 2 more than Fitz) Â Also I believe Cassel's upside it higher than Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Fitz had gimmicks like the beard and wedding ring to distract us from losing. Cassel doesn't insult our intelligence with such trifles Edited March 24, 2015 by jr1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 He actually played decent, and I think he is better than Hoyer or Mallet, but his numbers are very skewed by the one game he threw 6 TDs in.That is true. I believe with the weapons that are on the team now that Fitz could have been successful. He did okay here playing with absolute garbage outside of Stevie. He is smart too. He could have gotten the ball in the playmakers hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Neither.... Fitz is a 100% certain he will.never lead you to the playoffs.The bills would have made the playoffs last season if they would've just held onto Fitzpatrick. His level of play with Houston last season would have been good enough to get us to 10-6. For christ sake he was throwing to Stevie Johnson, David Nelson and Donald Jones- a 7th rounder and two udfa's. He is slightly better than cassel and cassel has led two loaded teams two 10+ wins. If you don't think Ryan Fitzpatrick could take the 2015 bills with all these new toys to the playoffs you're nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'll take Cassel over Fitz (for now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Look at Fitz's numbers from last year. I think that you will be surprised at how well he played. You will be really surprised to see that they replaced that production with Mallet and Hoyer. Numbers, especially when looked up after 3 months, can be very deceiving. Many of those yards could have come in garbage time when the game was already out of reach. Â The issue with Fitz was that he would throw INTs at very inopportune moments and suck the air out of the team. You could never hope that Fitz will score the TD in the 4th quarter to win the game (There were a few exceptions like the one against the Patriots). He was an inconsistent QB with a lousy arm, but could read defenses well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Numbers, especially when looked up after 3 months, can be very deceiving. Many of those yards could have come in garbage time when the game was already out of reach. Â The issue with Fitz was that he would throw INTs at very inopportune moments and suck the air out of the team. You could never hope that Fitz will score the TD in the 4th quarter to win the game (There were a few exceptions like the one against the Patriots). He was an inconsistent QB with a lousy arm, but could read defenses well. His QBR was 18th and top 10 in rating. He isn't great but he played last season at that Alex Smith level that this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Neither.... Fitz is a 100% certain he will.never lead you to the playoffs. THANK YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Meh Cassell vs Ryan Fehpatrick...talk about an irrelevant poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Does it really matter? We got Cassel. Hypotheticals are friggin pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Front Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Fitz is a bit more turnover prone I think Cassel is a much better fit for a team that wants more of a game manager. Fitz might be a slightly better playmaker but I think he is a bit more wreckless and that leads to turnovers. For a team with a defense projected to be very good you need a QB that cuts down on the turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Numbers, especially when looked up after 3 months, can be very deceiving. Many of those yards could have come in garbage time when the game was already out of reach. Â The issue with Fitz was that he would throw INTs at very inopportune moments and suck the air out of the team. You could never hope that Fitz will score the TD in the 4th quarter to win the game (There were a few exceptions like the one against the Patriots). He was an inconsistent QB with a lousy arm, but could read defenses well. I agree with everything you just said. However Ryan Fitzpatrick 2010-2013 was working with mediocre at best rosters and was asked to make 4th quarter comebacks. What if he didn't have to do that. This bills team is outrageously stacked. All it's gonna take is for someone to not f**k it up. We'll see who's better suited for that role but my guess is it's cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Fitz played on a team with a historically bad defense. One of the worst units the Bills have ever put on the field. Fitz's strength was his attitude and smarts. This defense would be able to recover from the ridiculous INT he would throw from time to time. And Fitz would more than often get 7 points off of a turnover or short filed this defense would create. Fitz and this team would be 11-5 and winners of the AFC East. Â I look at Cassell and I see Jauron's wet dream. Dink and dunk and don't mess it up for the defense. That is not what this team needs. This team needs to score early, score off of turnovers, and then let the defense pressure the QB mercilessly. This team needs an aggressive QB not a Trent Edwards type. I think what Rex is looking for is the exact opposite of what you think we need. Â We are looking for a GAME MANAGER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Fitz would have to change the way he plays take less chances...Cassel has to have the running game, the play makers and the great defense- hey wait a minute he has that here. Cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) At first I thought cassel was an easy choice. Then I looked the numbers expecting my clear confirmation and what I learned was these two are very equivalent. Passer rating yards, wining then losing the job... Â If either guys is your starting qb you're in for some pain. Therefore I vote none of the above. That is true. I believe with the weapons that are on the team now that Fitz could have been successful. He did okay here playing with absolute garbage outside of Stevie. He is smart too. He could have gotten the ball in the playmakers hands.Had some good WRs in Houston. What happened there? Edited March 24, 2015 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 None of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 EJ. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I prefer Fitz, but that's probably just sentiment. I told my friend, who's a Texans fan, not to worry when they went down 3 scores early. I told him Fitz would bring them back to a one score game with the ball and a chance to win in the 4th...but then he'd turn the ball over for the loss. Fitz made me prophetic that night. He's still a hell of a football player though and I hope he takes the jets to the playoffs (where they lose to us for the 3rd time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I hate to say it but I think I would rather have Fitz with this offense. Neither are going to be very good. Both are capable of tremendous sucktitude. I think Fitz's smarts would help with this team, and he can probably run a little better. Fitz and Roman would probably have some great discussions and ideas. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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