ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 only if it affects us getting a guard TE and Spikes. otherwise i don't care. but yes i think so too. One year with incentives i would guess? If it's more like 3M + incentives I'm ok with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioRV Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Are you writing the check? Who cares how much they paid. Now it's to the Bills coaches to use correctly. If it's more like 3M + incentives I'm ok with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Are you writing the check? Who cares how much they paid. Now it's to the Bills coaches to use correctly. because we are getting close to the cap limit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Proud Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) nice Edited March 13, 2015 by Buffalo Proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 His talent is worth that, but we might as well have signed him for more than a year. Yah I would've liked a 2yr deal but whatever. Would rather overpay a good player than Gresham or Chris Williams 2.0 or some crappy player that plays a position we happen to be bad at. Who are the mythical Guards everyone is talking about - Franklin & Boling already signed right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 A bit puzzled by this one year deal. What's the point without a QB to throw to the WRs. Unless they plan on running a lot of short stuff, WR screens etc. and think Cassel (or Taylor/Manuel I suppose) can handle at least that much? Probably very close to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 because we are getting close to the cap limit! that's what happens when you sign high profile free agents. It's expected and ok. We could be way below the cap but would probably stink. When we hit the cap, we stop spending. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 We do have QB's that can throw to these WR's. Cassell may not be a star, but when he was surrounded by talent, he has performed well. I think Cassel's going to surprise all the naysayers. Here's hoping he's our Jim Plunkett! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yah I would've liked a 2yr deal but whatever. Would rather overpay a good player than Gresham or Chris Williams 2.0 or some crappy player that plays a position we happen to be bad at. Who are the mythical Guards everyone is talking about - Franklin & Boling already signed right? Blalock ? Thats was my pick for value when he came available . good run blocker and solid enough that's what happens when you sign high profile free agents. It's expected and ok. We could be way below the cap but would probably stink. When we hit the cap, we stop spending. Simple Rightio. I was responding about to the fellow who mentioned "why be concerned , it not our money" of course its not. But when the bills run out of spendables. The FA is over for us Fans. I dont want to spend on Harvin when it SEEMS they have glaring needs at TE and G to me. Ralph is still cheap , i just know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Are you writing the check? Who cares how much they paid. Now it's to the Bills coaches to use correctly. Excellent insight! Thanks for being a valued member of the community. I can see your winning attitude should be something we can all look forward too. Employing basic logic- if you want to ground and pound, you need a decent line. If you have an OC who likes to get TEs involved in multiple sets, you need tight ends. So, we need to sign at least 1 TE and 1 decent OL before the draft. If you want that TE to be Clay, as they have indicated, then you need MONEY in the form of CAP SPACE. Miami is freeing up space to lock him up long-term and we are still chewing it up with non-OL non-TE acquisitions. I'm happy to have Harvin, I just hop the contract is structured in such a way that it does not preclude us from getting players we need on the line. Seems to me if you can't keep the QB upright to pass to these wideouts and can't open space for Rbs (which we could NOT do last year) then you're basically buying gold-plated spinners for your car when it doesn't have an engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Blalock ? Thats was my pick for value when he came available . good run blocker and solid enough Rightio. I was responding about to the fellow who mentioned "why be concerned , it not our money" of course its not. But when the bills run out of spendables. The FA is over for us Fans. I dont want to spend on Harvin when it SEEMS they have glaring needs at TE and G to me. Ralph is still cheap , i just know it. There probably aren't many guards or TE's left that will command big dollars other than Clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Seems to me if you can't keep the QB upright to pass to these wideouts and can't open space for Rbs (which we could NOT do last year) then you're basically buying gold-plated spinners for your car when it doesn't have an engine. +1million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Mercy Mercy look out... I think Yolo was saying something like this... Lookie, Lookie, here comes Cookie! Mercy, Mercy, there goes Percy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think Yolo was saying something like this... Lookie, Lookie, here comes Cookie! Mercy, Mercy, there goes Percy! well you two have a special relationship then. who the hell is cookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 well you two have a special relationship then. who the hell is cookie? :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 well you two have a special relationship then. who the hell is cookie? Please... Say you're joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 well you two have a special relationship then. who the hell is cookie? What?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifefan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Great signing. I'm still a hold-out Percy Harvin fan and think he's an excellent player. We are off the hook after 1 season. Harvin is motivated to play lights out so they can hit it big in free agency. I suspect the Bills will let him handle all kickoff and punt return duties. Look out for a lot of read option/jet sweeps on offense. If we are able to establish a consistent running game we are going to have a field day with mis-direction and play action on offense. I think Harvin opens up a lot of things for us in the running game now. Bills have 3 blue chip-talent players on offense now. Were better as a team with this signing.... and that cant be argued. I'm all for the optimism, but we will still need a QB to get them the ball and a better line to keep him standing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
run dat back Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 "It's starting to come together, Charlie. It's starting to come together." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Who is cookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Perfect to play slot My thoughts too. And on returns and other gadget plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Who is cookie? She works at the sundowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 My thoughts too. And on returns and other gadget plays. Put him in the backfield like GB does.with Cobb to get him matched up with a LB...god help the LB trying to cover him on a wheel route... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'm generally happy with the off-season. But the Harvin signing puzzles me. Why do we rent an oft-injured, oft-clueless WR when we don't have a franchise QB who can get him the ball? For a reported $6 million for 1 year? They say past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. If true, Harvin won't even crack the starting lineup. Either he'll be benched by the coaches for something dumb, or he'll get hurt, or he'll bench himself. Under the circumstances, wouldn't it have been wiser to pay Chandler his $2 mil than give Harvin his $6 mil? Now we're loaded at wideout but extremely thin at TE having also lost Lee Smith. The hiring of Rex and Roman, and the signing of Shady, all say we're building a ground-and-pound offense. Where does flaky Harvin fit in? Aren't TEs more important in ground-and-pound offense than WRs who don't like to block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Duke Williams @Duke27_: Okay, now who wanna play me in madden!!!??! 😳😳😳 WELCOME @Percy_Harvin Edited March 14, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'm generally happy with the off-season. But the Harvin signing puzzles me. Why do we rent an oft-injured, oft-clueless WR when we don't have a franchise QB who can get him the ball? For a reported $6 million for 1 year? They say past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. If true, Harvin won't even crack the starting lineup. Either he'll be benched by the coaches for something dumb, or he'll get hurt, or he'll bench himself. Under the circumstances, wouldn't it have been wiser to pay Chandler his $2 mil than give Harvin his $6 mil? Now we're loaded at wideout but extremely thin at TE having also lost Lee Smith. The hiring of Rex and Roman, and the signing of Shady, all say we're building a ground-and-pound offense. Where does flaky Harvin fit in? Aren't TEs more important in ground-and-pound offense than WRs who don't like to block? Chandler is a pawn. Harvin is a bishop on a board more suited for knights. Still better than a pawn, and the board can always change in the bishops's favor later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 6 mil? Oof. I hope that's loaded with incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 @ESPNStatsInfo: Bills agree to 1-year deal with Percy Harvin. Bills were 31st last season in slot rec yards; 61% of Harvin's catches have been from slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Excellent insight! Thanks for being a valued member of the community. I can see your winning attitude should be something we can all look forward too. Employing basic logic- if you want to ground and pound, you need a decent line. If you have an OC who likes to get TEs involved in multiple sets, you need tight ends. So, we need to sign at least 1 TE and 1 decent OL before the draft. If you want that TE to be Clay, as they have indicated, then you need MONEY in the form of CAP SPACE. Miami is freeing up space to lock him up long-term and we are still chewing it up with non-OL non-TE acquisitions. I'm happy to have Harvin, I just hop the contract is structured in such a way that it does not preclude us from getting players we need on the line. Seems to me if you can't keep the QB upright to pass to these wideouts and can't open space for Rbs (which we could NOT do last year) then you're basically buying gold-plated spinners for your car when it doesn't have an engine. did we not restructure kyle to free up space? Did we not free up over 2 million by releasing chandler? Did we not restructure shady to free up cap space? Stop acting like the bills are only signing people and not making moves like the rest of the league. Did we not get an oline coach that is one of the better teachers? Do our rookie lineman from last season have a year under their belt and are they working to improve? Do we have two TEs on our roster already with a similar skill set to clay with a fraction of the cap hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 :cry: oh you mean Cookie! as in Charlton Chester Gilchrist? That Cookie ? She works at the sundowner That Cookie i know too bad they dont let me over there anymore since the "incident" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 In 2011 Harvin almost had 1000 yards receiving with fat Donovan Mcnabb and rookie Christian Ponder at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The Bills haven't had a good slot receiver in over 20 years. Finally! Welcome Percy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 @ESPNStatsInfo: Bills agree to 1-year deal with Percy Harvin. Bills were 31st last season in slot rec yards; 61% of Harvin's catches have been from slot. Ouch, Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Ouch, Hogan. 7/11 all day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Ouch, Hogan.Now I see why they wanted him so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Ouch, Hogan. We sat Mike Williams because Hogan was a better special teamer. ~Doug Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 6 mil? Oof. I hope that's loaded with incentives.that is about what I expected. Interested to see the gtd $. Kenny Britt just got 7.5/yr. Eddie Royal got 5/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 @ESPNStatsInfo: Bills agree to 1-year deal with Percy Harvin. Bills were 31st last season in slot rec yards; 61% of Harvin's catches have been from slot. Wow we had a slot WR last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Wow we had a slot WR last year? 7/11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 that is about what I expected. Interested to see the gtd $. Kenny Britt just got 7.5/yr. Eddie Royal got 5/yr. Id bet between high 4s to low 5s with some incentives bht generally speaking 80 or so percent locked in, just spitballing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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