PolishDave Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I thought Spiller had another dismal game. He whimped out on the block that led to Orton's sack fumble. He can't break a play open to save his life. With his lack of ability to aid in stopping opponent's pass rush, I think he is more of a liability than an asset. I will be disappointed if he is back next year. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Nay.. Edited December 29, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I say keep him. He shouldn't be a financial issue at all so it is just a matter of keeping or not. I still think with a good OC and better OL he could be a big part of our running attack maybe even greater than 50% of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Ike Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If i was CJ Spiller I wouldn't want to come back.... Maybe with a new OC, but even then, I'd probably pack my bags for greener pastures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 I say keep him. He shouldn't be a financial issue at all so it is just a matter of keeping or not. I still think with a good OC and better OL he could be a big part of our running attack maybe even greater than 50% of it. I think most fans would agree he would have had a lot more success behind a much better offensive line. It is hard to question that. However, if this guy was even close to being elite he still should be able to make a big play here or there. And he doesn't. He just doesn't. And he is not performing his basic assignments to help the rest of the team as evidenced by his whif on the pass block where Orton fumbled. If the guy isn't making any big plays on his own and if he is allowing the other team to make huge plays against him, then I say it is time to part ways with him. He seems like a great guy, but he doesn't seem like a great football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 So Orton misses training camp, yet plays for 12 straight weeks, and people wanna give Hackett and him a pass because he needs to be given a chance. CJ just missed half the season and in his 2nd game back is expected to be a game changer? If he leaves, we'll be watching him score TDs ala Lynch. Yay us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 For the vet minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 So Orton misses training camp, yet plays for 12 straight weeks, and people wanna give Hackett and him a pass because he needs to be given a chance. CJ just missed half the season and in his 2nd game back is expected to be a game changer? If he leaves, we'll be watching him score TDs ala Lynch. Yay us. I've heard this about every Bills player ever. "Will go to NE to destroy us" "Will dominate somewhere else." It's happened like twice in the last decade and it happens to every team. If CJ does well somewhere else, I don't really care. He isn't playing well here. That's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 does anyone remember the play when he was injured? that is the cj spiller that could have been this season. keep him and make it a priority to integrate him into the game plan. otherwise some team will and he will join the string of ex bills excelling after they left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Has no idea how to hit the hole. Always dances to find the big run instead of the 4-5 yards he could get in the hole. Tired of him dancing and running out of bounds and losing 3-5 yards. Buh bye CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I've heard this about every Bills player ever. "Will go to NE to destroy us" "Will dominate somewhere else." It's happened like twice in the last decade and it happens to every team. If CJ does well somewhere else, I don't really care. He isn't playing well here. That's all that matters. Exactly... He's not playing well behind that same OLine that people say is so bad you can't judge our OC's play calling. Yet, a RB is supposed to be fine running behind it. Not to mention.. Has he really looked that much worse than any of the other 3 RBs on the roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I would love to keep Spiller at the right price; which is less than a feature back. I think he will add value to any team and I'd rather it be the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Hell yeah! Get some offensive linemen and a coach that can teach them to be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If he'll play for about the league minimum, he's a valuable return man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Depends of what his demands are. Based on overall play I can't say I would be desperate to re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Exactly... He's not playing well behind that same OLine that people say is so bad you can't judge our OC's play calling. Yet, a RB is supposed to be fine running behind it. Not to mention.. Has he really looked that much worse than any of the other 3 RBs on the roster? Yes he has. Especially Fred Jackson. He should be outplaying Fred Jackson consistently at this point in both their careers. He can't carry Fred's jockstrap. It's not even close. You can't count on CJ to get you a tough yard. And you can't count on him to block a blitzer so the QB at least has a chance to make a play. How much longer can you realistically wait for CJ to turn his game back around... Why would you ever want CJ in on another 3rd down play where his job is to help protect the quarterback. If he'll play for about the league minimum, he's a valuable return man I suppose he is worth keeping around for that purpose if you want to use a roster spot just for that. Seems like we got just as good of production out of Thigpen at that spot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Great ability, but it shows nowhere near often enough. As has been said already, he simply refuses to hit a hole quickly for 4 yards and looks for the big one every carry. But what REALLY put me over the edge on Spiller was the sack he gave up today. Not only did he miss the initial block, but then he turned his back on his man while the guy stepped right around him to get the strip sack. Inexcusable. There is NO part of his heart that's into pass pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkgobills Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Depends on the cost, but generally...no. There's better players to spend the money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If i was spiller, i wouldn't come back. They don't know how to use his talent. Once he join another team get ready to be upset when he play like a true star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Backs seem to be a dime a dozen these days, so depends on how much $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'd keep him for a modest price. He is a change of pace back. He will never be our go to guy. We definitely need to find Fred replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 If i was spiller, i wouldn't come back. They don't know how to use his talent. Once he join another team get ready to be upset when he play like a true star. This is so awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Spiller is a coward when it comes to pass protection. After all these years, he just won't commit to it. He needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Beebe Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Great ability, but it shows nowhere near often enough. As has been said already, he simply refuses to hit a hole quickly for 4 yards and looks for the big one every carry. But what REALLY put me over the edge on Spiller was the sack he gave up today. Not only did he miss the initial block, but then he turned his back on his man while the guy stepped right around him to get the strip sack. Inexcusable. There is NO part of his heart that's into pass pro. Yes That just about sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 the guy has a 5 yard per carry career average in the nfl thats ahead of a lot of great runners including demarco murray. i hope they keep him, maybe an incentive oriented contract if he'll go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 At the right price. He is dumb. He just doesn't seem coachable. He had one good play tody. Following lead blocker Gray. I'd take Summers on this team in 2015 before I would a Spiller costing more then $3.5mm/yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 He is Reggie Bush 2.0, nothing more. Let him go wow and/or frustrate some other club. I'd rather spend his money on Jerry Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 He will find a home in Arizona or Seattle. He may sign a one year deal somewhere and try to have a breakout season for a team with some hope of running a competent offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 No. I have seen enough. May be in the minority but I do not think he is a very good football player. Athlete yes. Player no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 the guy has a 5 yard per carry career average in the nfl thats ahead of a lot of great runners including demarco murray. i hope they keep him, maybe an incentive oriented contract if he'll go that way. And yet I would bet 32 GM's would take Murray over Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Spiller is a coward when it comes to pass protection. After all these years, he just won't commit to it. He needs to go. That is a horrible comment, IMO. He isn't a good pass protector, that is true. It is something he never had to do in college and something that doesn't come naturally to him. He has gotten better at it over the years. I believe he has worked on it and tries. He will never be Fredex at pass protection, no question. A coward, though? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Only if we get a new OC who knows what to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Reggie Bush is the perfect comparison Totally one dimensional player who is always hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I thought Spiller had another dismal game. He whimped out on the block that led to Orton's sack fumble. He can't break a play open to save his life. With his lack of ability to aid in stopping opponent's pass rush, I think he is more of a liability than an asset. I will be disappointed if he is back next year. Your thoughts? Its awful funny when he has a offensive line that can open holes & a OC that knows how to use his strengths he can average 6 YPC , this could be another fire Hackett post instead of keeping CJ ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Spiller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQUbNWNDmFU&t=1m40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I like CJ and would like him to be part of the team. I do believe that, with a better interior line (on the Bills or another team), he will return to his prior production. I also think that he is a good teammate and is well liked by Fred and others on the team. At the end of the day, it is going to depend on $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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