Dan Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 why waste the picks they already have Chambers and Matt Murphy. just not enough roster spots for adding actual talent to the OL I think the proper response was.... why was the picks they already have one of the league's best LT's signed for 3 more years who would have guessed that Peters is selfish and has an over inflated view of himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I think the proper response was.... why was the picks they already have one of the league's best LT's signed for 3 more years who would have guessed that Peters is selfish and has an over inflated view of himself Bad thing is that he's showing his true colors no matter how the current impass ends. He's just another greedy SOB who really doesn't get the team concept. Pity. If he hadn't signed with the Bills. he could have played in the Arena league for about 25K/yr and drove truck for another 35K. Now he's earning about 50 times that and is only concerned about what the guy next to him earns. The Bills will not reward for bad behavior. How many of you understand that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I mean, it would hurt our performance on the field, but Peters can sit out indefinitely and never become a free agent if the Bills are willing to play hardball. [/quote Peters has made himself a poster child. He can sit out the rest of his life for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Bad thing is that he's showing his true colors no matter how the current impass ends. He's just another greedy SOB who really doesn't get the team concept. Pity. If he hadn't signed with the Bills. he could have played in the Arena league for about 25K/yr and drove truck for another 35K. Now he's earning about 50 times that and is only concerned about what the guy next to him earns. The Bills will not reward for bad behavior. How many of you understand that? what if there are more facts which the Bills or Peters have not disclosed. what if 2 years ago the Bills (under Marv Levy) wanted to lock up Peters to something longer than the 1 year tender. They knew they were going to move him to LT. Parker and Peters presumed this as well. So to protect themselves, they asked for an escalator which would increase the base salary if Peters started at LT. Parker wanted the increase to reflect what real LTs make. The Bills, insisting that Peters was only a RT, capped the escalator at $1 million, but promised they would re-do the contract if Peters did indeed move to LT successfully. This escalator is in Peters contract and did get triggered. Well low and behold, in 2007 Peters becomes a Pro Bowl LT. In january 2008, Parker approaches the Bills about the promised increase. However, the new sheriff in town is flexing his muscles and reneges on the offer with promises to pay next year - since he has 3 years left. Flabbergasted with this turn of events and the total lack of respect for the Bills best player, Peters and Parker weigh their options and decide to skip the OTA to see how events unfold. Instead of any discussions with Parker, the Bills extend marginal starters and backups to more money than Peters is making. After reviewing the Bills options at LT and the total disregard for Peters skills - they make the tough decision to hold out from camp. far fetched - maybe even more far fetched is the story the Bills are spinning that they have no idea why Peters is not at camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 what if there are more facts which the Bills or Peters have not disclosed. what if 2 years ago the Bills (under Marv Levy) wanted to lock up Peters to something longer than the 1 year tender. They knew they were going to move him to LT. Parker and Peters presumed this as well. So to protect themselves, they asked for an escalator which would increase the base salary if Peters started at LT. Parker wanted the increase to reflect what real LTs make. The Bills, insisting that Peters was only a RT, capped the escalator at $1 million, but promised they would re-do the contract if Peters did indeed move to LT successfully. This escalator is in Peters contract and did get triggered. Well low and behold, in 2007 Peters becomes a Pro Bowl LT. In january 2008, Parker approaches the Bills about the promised increase. However, the new sheriff in town is flexing his muscles and reneges on the offer with promises to pay next year - since he has 3 years left. Flabbergasted with this turn of events and the total lack of respect for the Bills best player, Peters and Parker weigh their options and decide to skip the OTA to see how events unfold. Instead of any discussions with Parker, the Bills extend marginal starters and backups to more money than Peters is making. After reviewing the Bills options at LT and the total disregard for Peters skills - they make the tough decision to hold out from camp. far fetched - maybe even more far fetched is the story the Bills are spinning that they have no idea why Peters is not at camp. You're pretty good at coming up with what-if's. How about the most likely scenario? Peters and his agent are a**holes? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Well, there's a silver lining -- depth on the o-line will improve as his backup gets more reps. Peters will likely return at some point during the first 4 games and resume his dominance at the position and his backup will also be better prepared to help the team going forward. Always good to develop depth on o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 what if there are more facts which the Bills or Peters have not disclosed. what if 2 years ago the Bills (under Marv Levy) wanted to lock up Peters to something longer than the 1 year tender. They knew they were going to move him to LT. Parker and Peters presumed this as well. So to protect themselves, they asked for an escalator which would increase the base salary if Peters started at LT. Parker wanted the increase to reflect what real LTs make. The Bills, insisting that Peters was only a RT, capped the escalator at $1 million, but promised they would re-do the contract if Peters did indeed move to LT successfully. This escalator is in Peters contract and did get triggered. Well low and behold, in 2007 Peters becomes a Pro Bowl LT. In january 2008, Parker approaches the Bills about the promised increase. However, the new sheriff in town is flexing his muscles and reneges on the offer with promises to pay next year - since he has 3 years left. Flabbergasted with this turn of events and the total lack of respect for the Bills best player, Peters and Parker weigh their options and decide to skip the OTA to see how events unfold. Instead of any discussions with Parker, the Bills extend marginal starters and backups to more money than Peters is making. After reviewing the Bills options at LT and the total disregard for Peters skills - they make the tough decision to hold out from camp. far fetched - maybe even more far fetched is the story the Bills are spinning that they have no idea why Peters is not at camp. Well...The X-Files are back after all... The Bills know what Peters wants...The Bills want Peters to show up and fulfill his contracted committment while they work out a better deal that is fair for both sides...The Bills want this because it's good for the Team...Now, I will say it's Brandon's Job to make that crystal clear to Peter's Agent on almost a daily basis...And I do wonder whether or not that has been made crystal clear this Off Season...Regardless, if that is The Bills stance, and it has been all along, Peters Agent is giving him piss poor advice...Think about it this way...Check out His record...In this situation, Drew Rousenhaus would have Peters Report and He'd be in Buffalo Camping out on the steps at OBD to work out that new deal... I don't believe for one second that The Bills are trying to get out on the cheap with their Pro Bowl LT...Not after they paid Doc what they paid him...They do however want every single Player on board so-to-speak...That is why the line is being drawn here...And I think it's a perfectly fair line in this case...Come in, Play and Practice with your Teammates, and We will talk the same way We do with #83's Agent every day...We will get something done... Sit at Home and well...We just can't negotiate under those circumstances because it sets a precedence we are unwilling to set...And that's that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudi Arabia Rob Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Not so simple. Peters did take a bonus and re-sign because he was probably playing for the NFL minimum, or close to it. In this instance, the Bills had all the leverage. Now, the tables have turned. You have a probowl LT making less than Dockery, let alone Fowler who is average at best. Any sane person can see the inequity of this equation. Can you? Yes or no? If the contract he signed was around or under $1m/yr I could see it. But at $3.5m there's no reason for him not to report and have his TWO agents get with Brandon and begin to deal. Granted he made the Pro Bowl, but he got hurt at the end of the season and he hasn't spoken at all to the Bills. Peters should get into camp. If he's one of the three "key" links (him, Stroud, Edwards) I think the players are only going to keep saying "he's only being a businessman" for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 what if there are more facts which the Bills or Peters have not disclosed. what if 2 years ago the Bills (under Marv Levy) wanted to lock up Peters to something longer than the 1 year tender. They knew they were going to move him to LT. Parker and Peters presumed this as well. So to protect themselves, they asked for an escalator which would increase the base salary if Peters started at LT. Parker wanted the increase to reflect what real LTs make. The Bills, insisting that Peters was only a RT, capped the escalator at $1 million, but promised they would re-do the contract if Peters did indeed move to LT successfully. This escalator is in Peters contract and did get triggered. Well low and behold, in 2007 Peters becomes a Pro Bowl LT. In january 2008, Parker approaches the Bills about the promised increase. However, the new sheriff in town is flexing his muscles and reneges on the offer with promises to pay next year - since he has 3 years left. Flabbergasted with this turn of events and the total lack of respect for the Bills best player, Peters and Parker weigh their options and decide to skip the OTA to see how events unfold. Instead of any discussions with Parker, the Bills extend marginal starters and backups to more money than Peters is making. After reviewing the Bills options at LT and the total disregard for Peters skills - they make the tough decision to hold out from camp. far fetched - maybe even more far fetched is the story the Bills are spinning that they have no idea why Peters is not at camp. Of all the crocks of schitt you've served, this one is the smelliest. First of all, the Bills aren't saying they don't know why Peters is not at camp -- they're implying they will address things once Peters shows he is committed to the team by showing up. The other fantasyland story you've concocted? Honestly, man, you must have some good stuff you're smoking/drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 The other fantasyland story you've concocted? Honestly, man, you must have some good stuff you're smoking/drinking. And not sharing is just plain impolite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeInABQ Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Know what's sick? Dude gets fined in two days more than I make in a year. I hate him so much right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 what if there are more facts which the Bills or Peters have not disclosed. what if 2 years ago the Bills (under Marv Levy) wanted to lock up Peters to something longer than the 1 year tender. They knew they were going to move him to LT. Parker and Peters presumed this as well. So to protect themselves, they asked for an escalator which would increase the base salary if Peters started at LT. Parker wanted the increase to reflect what real LTs make. The Bills, insisting that Peters was only a RT, capped the escalator at $1 million, but promised they would re-do the contract if Peters did indeed move to LT successfully. This escalator is in Peters contract and did get triggered. Well low and behold, in 2007 Peters becomes a Pro Bowl LT. In january 2008, Parker approaches the Bills about the promised increase. However, the new sheriff in town is flexing his muscles and reneges on the offer with promises to pay next year - since he has 3 years left. Flabbergasted with this turn of events and the total lack of respect for the Bills best player, Peters and Parker weigh their options and decide to skip the OTA to see how events unfold. Instead of any discussions with Parker, the Bills extend marginal starters and backups to more money than Peters is making. After reviewing the Bills options at LT and the total disregard for Peters skills - they make the tough decision to hold out from camp. far fetched - maybe even more far fetched is the story the Bills are spinning that they have no idea why Peters is not at camp. OOORRRRR...... maybe he's dead and that's why no one has heard from him. He probably went hiking and fell off a cliff into a deep ravine and after a few weeks of living off the berries around him as he lay there with 2 broken legs a mountain lion came by and ate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 OOORRRRR...... maybe he's dead and that's why no one has heard from him. He probably went hiking and fell off a cliff into a deep ravine and after a few weeks of living off the berries around him as he lay there with 2 broken legs a mountain lion came by and ate him. after that, he's still our best (and only) LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Of all the crocks of schitt you've served, this one is the smelliest. First of all, the Bills aren't saying they don't know why Peters is not at camp -- they're implying they will address things once Peters shows he is committed to the team by showing up. The other fantasyland story you've concocted? Honestly, man, you must have some good stuff you're smoking/drinking. sure they might - but at the moment they are spinning the story as if they are in the dark http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=6245 That's because contact with their Pro Bowl left tackle has been virtually non-existent the entire offseason. "To be very honest with you it's been a road map of silence to date," said Bills COO Russ Brandon of the organization's contact with Peters. O f course, he left out the small bit of info that they informed Peters in January they would not re-do his deal. At THAT point, he had not missed any OTAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 sure they might - but at the moment they are spinning the story as if they are in the dark http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=6245 That's because contact with their Pro Bowl left tackle has been virtually non-existent the entire offseason. "To be very honest with you it's been a road map of silence to date," said Bills COO Russ Brandon of the organization's contact with Peters. You conveniently left out the rest of Brandon's comments: "He hasn't been here to date," Brandon said, "and it's difficult to have discussions with someone who's not here and has elected to not participate in what we're trying to do." Easy to twist things when you don't include the entire quote, isn't it? Brandon also conceded the Bills HAVE spoken with Peters' agent, but only briefly because they were focused on signing Hardy. Once again, I must question the judgment of someone who believes the Bills should be banging down Peters' door to give him more money when he has chosen to ignore all team activities since the end of the season. O f course, he left out the small bit of info that they informed Peters in January they would not re-do his deal.At THAT point, he had not missed any OTAs. Link? I haven't read that anywhere. Sounds like you're making schitt up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 My big question to his agent would be "Why the hell did you sign the deal in 2006?" The answer would be 5 years, 17.5 million with an 8 million dollar bonus. That was good enough TWO years ago, he took the money and he should live with it. God forbid he has to live on that pittance for 3 more years. How he will feed his family is beyond me. If he wanted more, he should have waited. I could see if it was the last year of the contract. I can even see the point the Bills paid other OL more money. Fine, show up, play to the contract you took and the Bills will take care of you next year. I'd play hardball with him if I were Bills management. Not only is he signed for three more years, the Bills can franchise him for two years after that. Go ahead and sit out and the Bills still have him for 5 more years if they want. Better yet, he should quit altogether and he can go make $17.5 over the next 5 years in whatever field he has his College Degree in. Basket Maker pays big bucks these days. He is just trying to take advantage of the fact that the Bills may be playoff contenders this year with him at LT. This whole thing sucks big time. Just another greedy athlete putting himself ahead of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Come in, Play and Practice with your Teammates, and We will talk the same way We do with #83's Agent every day...We will get something done... You mean the same #83 that STILL has no new contract???? Maybe THAT'S why Peters is basically telling them to go screw themselves! It's crazy that they have not renegotiated Evans' contract yet. This team will never be good again because they only care about paying the overrated high motor guys. What a stupid front office. It's starting to rival their coaching staff. This thing WILL get ugly, count on it cheap bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 My big question to his agent would be "Why the hell did you sign the deal in 2006?" The answer would be 5 years, 17.5 million with an 8 million dollar bonus. That was good enough TWO years ago, he took the money and he should live with it. God forbid he has to live on that pittance for 3 more years. How he will feed his family is beyond me. If he wanted more, he should have waited. I could see if it was the last year of the contract. I can even see the point the Bills paid other OL more money. Fine, show up, play to the contract you took and the Bills will take care of you next year. I'd play hardball with him if I were Bills management. Not only is he signed for three more years, the Bills can franchise him for two years after that. Go ahead and sit out and the Bills still have him for 5 more years if they want. Better yet, he should quit altogether and he can go make $17.5 over the next 5 years in whatever field he has his College Degree in. Basket Maker pays big bucks these days. He is just trying to take advantage of the fact that the Bills may be playoff contenders this year with him at LT. This whole thing sucks big time. Just another greedy athlete putting himself ahead of the team. maybe they signed the deal in 2006 because the Bills (Marv Levy) asked them to since they did not want Peters to become a free agent the next year as a LT, with the understanding he would be taken care of if he was successful as a LT. The Bills gave them a limited $1 mil escalator for the switch to left tackle to show their good faith but also to support the re-do since the $1mil would not be enough to support real LT money. In January 2008, the Bills (Brandon) informed Peters they would not honor Marv's (he was senile at the time) Levy's commitement to redo the contract even though Peters is a pro-bowl LT who is the 3th highest paid OL on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I'd like to see Peters get paid as well. And he will. But if he's willing to sit the first 10 games and screw his teammates in the process, then fu*k him! Bills' balls in a vice? Hardly. GO BILLS!!! It's a tough situation. On one hand he deserves it. On the other he did sign a contract. But when you factor in all the variables including that his career has been somewhat of a progression in the transition to LT and then finally very good LT, they need to do something. What rubs some of us fans the wrong way is the way the team throws money around for players that don't put up a fraction of what Peters does and often as backups too, but then for the very few key players that really make this team worth a damn every fall, for half of them they treat their contracts like an afterthought. I mean it really makes you scratch your head and wonder if the parents of most of the people in our front office used to feed them lead based paint chips for breakfast in a bowl with milk like cereal. By the way, that first 10 comment I think is immaterial. He's not a FA at the end of the season. And yeah, I do think he has their head in a vice. If they don't redo his contract after doing the likes of Williams and Butler, they will look like the bunch of incompetent boobs that they are. Otherwise they stand to lose far more than Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Hardly. The Bills hold ALL the cards. How much value will Peters have after 3 years of not playing? I'll take my chances without Peters before I cave in to extortion which is what this is. PTR They do huh? How much value does the offense hold without Peters? I know, I know, Chambers is stepping up. Right, I'll put that second on my priority list after buying stock in Countrywide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 maybe they signed the deal in 2006 because the Bills (Marv Levy) asked them to since they did not want Peters to become a free agent the next year as a LT, with the understanding he would be taken care of if he was successful as a LT. The Bills gave them a limited $1 mil escalator for the switch to left tackle to show their good faith but also to support the re-do since the $1mil would not be enough to support real LT money. In January 2008, the Bills (Brandon) informed Peters they would not honor Marv's (he was senile at the time) Levy's commitement to redo the contract even though Peters is a pro-bowl LT who is the 3th highest paid OL on the team. Can you link to any proof of this notion you keep posting? Or is it complete fabrication to justify an point you're hoping to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Can you link to any proof of this notion you keep posting? Or is it complete fabrication to justify an point you're hoping to make? Agreed.....I want to see proof that this "Marv deal" took place or stop posting that @hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 maybe they signed the deal in 2006 because the Bills (Marv Levy) asked them to since they did not want Peters to become a free agent the next year as a LT, with the understanding he would be taken care of if he was successful as a LT. The Bills gave them a limited $1 mil escalator for the switch to left tackle to show their good faith but also to support the re-do since the $1mil would not be enough to support real LT money. In January 2008, the Bills (Brandon) informed Peters they would not honor Marv's (he was senile at the time) Levy's commitement to redo the contract even though Peters is a pro-bowl LT who is the 3th highest paid OL on the team. Obie, Could you please provide the link to where they made that offer you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Obie, Could you please provide the link to where they made that offer you are talking about? My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who heard Marv and Peters discussing the deal at 31 flavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 what if there are more facts which the Bills or Peters have not disclosed. what if 2 years ago the Bills (under Marv Levy) wanted to lock up Peters to something longer than the 1 year tender. They knew they were going to move him to LT. Parker and Peters presumed this as well. So to protect themselves, they asked for an escalator which would increase the base salary if Peters started at LT. Parker wanted the increase to reflect what real LTs make. The Bills, insisting that Peters was only a RT, capped the escalator at $1 million, but promised they would re-do the contract if Peters did indeed move to LT successfully. This escalator is in Peters contract and did get triggered. Well low and behold, in 2007 Peters becomes a Pro Bowl LT. In january 2008, Parker approaches the Bills about the promised increase. However, the new sheriff in town is flexing his muscles and reneges on the offer with promises to pay next year - since he has 3 years left. Flabbergasted with this turn of events and the total lack of respect for the Bills best player, Peters and Parker weigh their options and decide to skip the OTA to see how events unfold. Instead of any discussions with Parker, the Bills extend marginal starters and backups to more money than Peters is making. After reviewing the Bills options at LT and the total disregard for Peters skills - they make the tough decision to hold out from camp. far fetched - maybe even more far fetched is the story the Bills are spinning that they have no idea why Peters is not at camp. If this is true, and it may well be, one of two things happened: (1) Parker dropped the ball on behalf of Peters and should be fired; or (2) Peters knowingly signed a contract that he knew any move to left tackle would render unfavorable. If Peters is unhappy with the escalator and either he or his agent "knew" Peters would be moved to left tackle during the life of that agreement, one of only Peters or Parker is to blame. The reality of the situation is that Peters traded additional years on a contract (this one) for a greater immediate payment than his prior agreement would have provided. Had he "played out" his original contract, he'd be much closer to earning the extraordinary contract he desires. This was part of the risk in taking the additional "up front" money in this contract, and now he has to take his medicine. Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 maybe they signed the deal in 2006 because the Bills (Marv Levy) asked them to since they did not want Peters to become a free agent the next year as a LT, with the understanding he would be taken care of if he was successful as a LT. The Bills gave them a limited $1 mil escalator for the switch to left tackle to show their good faith but also to support the re-do since the $1mil would not be enough to support real LT money. In January 2008, the Bills (Brandon) informed Peters they would not honor Marv's (he was senile at the time) Levy's commitement to redo the contract even though Peters is a pro-bowl LT who is the 3th highest paid OL on the team. I'm to the point now that I believe you're merely a troll. The conspiracy theories you've dreamt up rival discussion of the Kennedy assassination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I'm to the point now that I believe you're merely a troll. The conspiracy theories you've dreamt up rival discussion of the Kennedy assassination. Hey look, I think it's Peters agent over on the grassy noll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Both Peters and the Bills have some sort of leverage. I do think he'll eventually report, and Buffalo will feign interest (at least this year) in re-upping him at some point. Obviously they're working toward extending Evans, but I'm confident they know that having a LT who can neutralize opposing pass rushers is imperative. I'm not certain it'll happen this year, but Peters must be patient. Either way, he's the difference in OL play and there's no doubt that Edwards has a lot of trust for someone like Peters. As much as some have heralded Chambers as being capable of handling the job, he's not nearly the answer. With success comes the paychecks commensurate with it. Players like Peters, Evans, et al will inevitably become commonplace and ultimately lead the Bills to pay their players. The NFL is increasingly becoming a players league, and paychecks are following in short order. For the Bills to be successful long term, they'll need to extend their stars and draft well year after year. There is no question that Buffalo needs Jason Peters. I'm hopeful the team realizes they need him for long term success because the position he plays is so essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 While in general I think that players should live up tot he contracts they signed, in THIS case, i think the Bills need to pay this guy and pay him well. He's the best LT they've had (IMO) since OJ was in town. Git 'er done, Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 After thinking about it, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that the Bills want to see if Peters is recovered from his injury before giving him the big bucks, as one poster mentioned. If that's the case, then I agree with them. They haven't seen, or heard from, him since January, so they don't know how he's doing. The troubling thing is that Peters chooses to stay away, which could mean the injury isn't healed, robbed him of some mobility +/- gives him chronic pain. I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 After thinking about it, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that the Bills want to see if Peters is recovered from his injury before giving him the big bucks, as one poster mentioned. If that's the case, then I agree with them. They haven't seen, or heard from, him since January, so they don't know how he's doing. The troubling thing is that Peters chooses to stay away, which could mean the injury isn't healed, robbed him of some mobility +/- gives him chronic pain. I hope not. That's just impossible, IMO. If Peters was hurt, no chance Eugene Parker is trying to get him a huge contract to cover it up. It would be immediately recognized day one, and Parker would probably be expelled from the union as an agent. Sure, players and agents cover up injuries at times. But not in this kind of case, where the guy is trying to become one of the top paid OL in the league. It just doesn't make any logical sense. And if I'm not mistaken, as soon as players sign, or before they take the field, I think they have to take physicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 After thinking about it, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that the Bills want to see if Peters is recovered from his injury before giving him the big bucks, as one poster mentioned. If that's the case, then I agree with them. They haven't seen, or heard from, him since January, so they don't know how he's doing. The troubling thing is that Peters chooses to stay away, which could mean the injury isn't healed, robbed him of some mobility +/- gives him chronic pain. I hope not. i think peters and the bills both know they are gonna extend him. the issue comes down to the type of contract (rest assured it will be in the top 5 OL contracts in all catagories) and when he extends. because he got hurt i think peters and his agent are now scared of getting hurt again before the big payday. i think he is prolly healthy, but just has the fear that if he gets hurt again, he might not get his super money. i think the bills FO wll play ball, but they want to see him healthy and in camp first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Peters would be a complete idiot to sit out the season & miss out on $3.5-4.5 million Also he should be gratetful that the Bills took him in & developed him as a OT instead of cutting him where he could be doing something else for a living He should just get into camp & talk to the team about working out a new deal during the season & if he is still performing at a probowl level then he can get a new deal where he is a the highest paid player on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 That's just impossible, IMO. If Peters was hurt, no chance Eugene Parker is trying to get him a huge contract to cover it up. It would be immediately recognized day one, and Parker would probably be expelled from the union as an agent. Sure, players and agents cover up injuries at times. But not in this kind of case, where the guy is trying to become one of the top paid OL in the league. It just doesn't make any logical sense. And if I'm not mistaken, as soon as players sign, or before they take the field, I think they have to take physicals. You can pass a physical and not the same as you were. Just look at Spikes. Again I hope this isn't the case, but the way Peters and his agent are playing it is odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Peters would be a complete idiot to sit out the season & miss out on $3.5-4.5 million Also he should be gratetful that the Bills took him in & developed him as a OT instead of cutting him where he could be doing something else for a living He should just get into camp & talk to the team about working out a new deal during the season & if he is still performing at a probowl level then he can get a new deal where he is a the highest paid player on the team Actually, they did cut him. And I remember the day when he was visiting the NY Giants right after. The Bills were very lucky that the Giants didn't sign him or that he didn't end up on a practice squad elsewhere instead of Buffalo. Losing a would-be all pro LT, when they haven't had a good offensive line in better than ten years, would have been the icing on the sh*tcake that has been the past 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 If Peters holds out during the regular season he's the dumbest man on the planet. History has shown that Bills players that embrace the team concept and show up in the off-season get rewarded for it. Learn from that lesson. If it comes to that, if I were the Bills I wouldn't do anything until next off-season. I could see him coming in after training camp is over and promptly getting hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Actually, they did cut him. And I remember the day when he was visiting the NY Giants right after. The Bills were very lucky that the Giants didn't sign him or that he didn't end up on a practice squad elsewhere instead of Buffalo. Losing a would-be all pro LT, when they haven't had a good offensive line in better than ten years, would have been the icing on the sh*tcake that has been the past 8 years. Of course, Jim McNally was a sh1tty OL coach and had nothing to do with Peters development whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 maybe they signed the deal in 2006 because the Bills (Marv Levy) asked them to since they did not want Peters to become a free agent the next year as a LT, with the understanding he would be taken care of if he was successful as a LT. The Bills gave them a limited $1 mil escalator for the switch to left tackle to show their good faith but also to support the re-do since the $1mil would not be enough to support real LT money. In January 2008, the Bills (Brandon) informed Peters they would not honor Marv's (he was senile at the time) Levy's commitement to redo the contract even though Peters is a pro-bowl LT who is the 3th highest paid OL on the team. link? Or should we file this with the other steaming piles of sh-- you have tried to serve everyone, such as... "if marcus stroud plays in more than 8 games this year, its because he's taking steroids" and "lots of teams have starting quality backup LTs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 link? Or should we file this with the other steaming piles of sh-- you have tried to serve everyone, such as... "if marcus stroud plays in more than 8 games this year, its because he's taking steroids" and "lots of teams have starting quality backup LTs" How about we set up a steamtable that includes Ramius gems like "There'll be lots of WRs taken in the first round of the 2008 draft" and we can sell the whole thing as a buffet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Not so simple. Peters did take a bonus and re-sign because he was probably playing for the NFL minimum, or close to it. In this instance, the Bills had all the leverage. Now, the tables have turned. You have a probowl LT making less than Dockery, let alone Fowler who is average at best. Any sane person can see the inequity of this equation. Can you? Yes or no? Your wrong Bill. There is a right way to do things & a wrong way. Peters just deciding to holdout with no dialogue or even an attempt to discuss with the bills is wrong. Read Bucky Gleason's article in the news today about the situation. Wilson is not going to blink & he is certainly not going to negotiate with a player that has made himself invisible all offseason. Peter's has no leverage. The simple fact is at $15K a day(already up to 60K) & 3 years left on his contract, Peters can not afford to sit out the whole season. He knows it, his agent knows it, & more importantly the bills know it. He will be in camp in time to play in the 3rd preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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