nedboy7 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Diggs is the WR1 and will be for the next 2 seasons. Deal with his tweets. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 6 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Um, Ridley's career playoff stats are zero yards on zero targets. Because of zero (out of 2) playoff games played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Diggs is the WR1 and will be for the next 2 seasons. Deal with his tweets. He won't be here 2 more seasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 18 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He won't be here 2 more seasons. His 2024 salary is now fully guaranteed. Bean 2 years ago reached a contract extension with Diggs that kicks in THIS year. His new 4 year 96 mil deal starts this upcoming season. Trading him is a 31 mil dead cap hit. Post June 1st trade kicks 22 mil into 2025. Does not save money. If they want to move on from him, it will be a giant financial disaster. He has annoying tweets. He is not a bad guy and does not really need to be moved. He will again put up a 1000 yrd season in 2024. 3 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: hmmm As I said in the Edwards thread, last thing floating around about Blackmon was that given his injury history - our offer was based on Incentive "performance based variable pay". Then Edwards was brought in. I'm guessing he wasn't ready to sign up for that and wanted to continue to play the field. We couldn't wait around though and signed Edwards. Maybe he comes back around and we get him later. But with Edwards and Rapp in house now, I'm guessing he gets a better opportunity both financially and in a situation where there's less of a competitive aspect. Though I'd love to have Blackmon, Edwards, and Rapp together. Edited March 20 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: As I said in the Edwards thread, last thing floating around about Blackmon was that given his injury history - our offer was based on Incentive "performance based variable pay". Then Edwards was brought in. I'm guessing he wasn't ready to sign up for that and wanted to continue to play the field. We couldn't wait around though and signed Edwards. Maybe he comes back around and we get him later. But with Edwards and Rapp in house now, I'm guessing he gets a better opportunity both financially and in a situation where there's less of a competitive aspect. Though I'd love to have Blackmon, Edwards, and Rapp together. That is a luxury and we can't afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: That is a luxury and we can't afford it. Rapp. Was the Poyer replacement last year and still signed after Poyer signed. If he’s still around after the draft and we don’t draft a safety it’s possible. Or maybe even before the draft. Edited March 20 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: IKR? Nearly 11 million over and the 3rd worst cap shape. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2025/ 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: It's just stupid to be over AGAIN before next year gets here. Diggs and Vons contracts are killing us. Currently 2025 is -$9.8M and when Von is let go next spring it results in a $8.5M in cap savings. Diggs contract may get traded. The trading team gets him for $19.5M with no guaranteed money (no dead cap). Whether he's cut or traded he saves another $5.1M pre-June and $18.5M post June. I see a post-June cut. Josh will restructure $20M more and take his hit down to $40M. Beane will be in a much better position next spring and going forward. Edited March 20 by ColoradoBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: That is a luxury and we can't afford it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Id love to sign Blackmon too! Blackmon and Edward could be our new Micah and Poyer. Rapp, Blackmon, and Edward= our secondary, and back 7 would be loaded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Id love to sign Blackmon too! Blackmon and Edward could be our new Micah and Poyer. Rapp, Blackmon, and Edward= our secondary, and back 7 would be loaded! Just gave Rapp a 3 year deal. It’s Edwards and Rapp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Just gave Rapp a 3 year deal. It’s Edwards and Rapp we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 22 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: That is a luxury and we can't afford it. Blackmon and Edwards? I tend to agree. I think it's a possibility, but unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Edwards is JAG, more as a Hamlin replacement than a starter I’m thinking. If Hyde doesn’t retire don’t be surprised to see him back cheap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Turbo44 said: Edwards is JAG, more as a Hamlin replacement than a starter I’m thinking. If Hyde doesn’t retire don’t be surprised to see him back cheap. Edwards had a better season than Hyde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 30 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: That is a luxury and we can't afford it. Ah, I'm so used to Warriorspikes51 answering Buffalofanforever19, that I hallucinated this response ascribed to the other fella. Only, of course, it was so out of character, I should have known. I thought the apocalypse might be happening, but false alarm. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it's an extra 3 million this year before June 1. Not exactly immovable if they wanted to deal him It’s dead cap hits this year and next year. You seem to always forget that in your crusade against Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 13 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Edwards is JAG, more as a Hamlin replacement than a starter I’m thinking. If Hyde doesn’t retire don’t be surprised to see him back cheap. He’ll start. I’d bet on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: His 2024 salary is now fully guaranteed. Bean 2 years ago reached a contract extension with Diggs that kicks in THIS year. His new 4 year 96 mil deal starts this upcoming season. Trading him is a 31 mil dead cap hit. Post June 1st trade kicks 22 mil into 2025. Does not save money. If they want to move on from him, it will be a giant financial disaster. He has annoying tweets. He is not a bad guy and does not really need to be moved. He will again put up a 1000 yrd season in 2024. This is right. The thing that sucks is they had old bills playoff games on nfl network and Diggs was clearly the best player on the field, maybe even better than Josh a couple years back just plucking off thrown balls like nothing. I wish we had that guy back and then I would not give a rip about what he says because most of the time he has a point. But right now he’s a shell of his old self and it’s time to get some youth to make up for his lack of eliteness now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 27 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: we'll see For sure, I’d love to bring in Blackmon but I’d be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: For sure, I’d love to bring in Blackmon but I’d be shocked. Agreed. I think Blackmon wanted to play the field some more and we felt we couldn't wait on him. I think it's on to the Draft now for Safety. Though I do find it more likely that he could come around and accept the incentive laden deal that we offered him than it is the Justin Simmons pie in the sky dream he's still holding on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Cool. What are their playoff stats? Again, not worth it IMO. Where are Ridleys? You said no team would take his contract. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: That is a luxury and we can't afford it. It’s DT S until the draft so I would say it’s not a luxury at all… 3 vet S’s works even over an early round S in McDermys D Edited March 20 by QLBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Currently 2025 is -$9.8M and when Von is let go next spring it results in a $8.5M in cap savings. Diggs contract may get traded. The trading team gets him for $19.5M with no guaranteed money (no dead cap). Whether he's cut or traded he saves another $5.1M pre-June and $18.5M post June. I see a post-June cut. Josh will restructure $20M more and take his hit down to $40M. Beane will be in a much better position next spring and going forward. They need to draft 2 receivers including one in the first round so they can get off of these bad contracts. Diggs is no longer worth #1 money, this is why I never liked the Johnson extension. Beanne needs to be careful handing out contracts and I will still be in favour of trading Diggs after June 1 if Beane can move up and grab a top receiver in this draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, BillsFan2313 said: Where are Ridleys? You said no team would take his contract. Why? 30 years old, basically 100 million. Who is taking that on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: 30 years old, basically 100 million. Who is taking that on? It would be more like a 3-year $66M contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Doc said: It would be more like a 3-year $66M contract. Okay…who’s taking it on though. Look, I just don’t see it. I could be wrong but I don’t think so. I mean people here want him bounced. If he’s so good and worth the dough, why not just keep him 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 41 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: It’s DT S until the draft so I would say it’s not a luxury at all… 3 vet S’s works even over an early round S in McDermys D McDermott's D can't stop KC for 13 seconds, can't win an AFC championship ( or even get past the division round for 3 years straight), has blown leads when Josh Allen has left the field with a lead. How about we make a change? Nah, let's just keep doing that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Blackmon should consider signing here.and making a tandem like Poyer and Hyde did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 47 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: They need to draft 2 receivers including one in the first round so they can get off of these bad contracts. Diggs is no longer worth #1 money, this is why I never liked the Johnson extension. Beanne needs to be careful handing out contracts and I will still be in favour of trading Diggs after June 1 if Beane can move up and grab a top receiver in this draft. Yep - would love a wr with our first pick (wherever it may end up being); Thomas, worthy, Mitchell then one later / McCaffrey or that 6’6” guy etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, boyst said: Blackmon should consider signing here.and making a tandem like Poyer and Hyde did. Edwards came and signed … and Blackmon came and went … he must have a Plan B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, boyst said: Blackmon should consider signing here.and making a tandem like Poyer and Hyde did. Rapp was signed to start. You don't give Rapp a 3 year deal then sit him. Just now, Aussie Joe said: Edwards came and signed … and Blackmon came and went … he must have a Plan B It's my opinion Blackmon and both DL told Beane they won't agree to just 1 year deals, and I don't blame them. Does Beane not get the players around the league see him sign players like floyed to 1 year deals then not re-sign them? Blackmon and the guy from San Fran that signed with Jax don't need 1 year prove it deals. Don't be shocked if somone signs Blackmon to at least a 3 year deal and they should. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: It's my opinion Blackmon and both DL told Beane they won't agree to just 1 year deals, and I don't blame them. Does Beane not get the players around the league see him sign players like floyed to 1 year deals then not re-sign them? Blackmon and the guy from San Fran that signed with Jax don't need 1 year prove it deals. Don't be shocked if somone signs Blackmon to at least a 3 year deal and they should. I’m generally happy with what Beane is paying out so far … don’t think anyone has been paid “overs” in terms of the new to the team FA signings ...perhaps Rapp got overpaid .. but they obviously like him and are prepared to give him a chance and if it doesn’t work out then they can move on after 1 year … They aren’t going to get every guy they go after when they are tight with the money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 This year we are going to need to rely on the Offense more. If we retool with some fresh speed demon WR's in the draft and get lucky on them picking up the level of intensity of the NFL we might be able to make waves this year. Safety is going to be a draft pick that could go 2 or 4th round. I do believe Digg's is done as a Bill. He believes the window of opportunity is gone for this team He really is going to be a thorn in our side this year. I just don't see him having a pro-bowl type of year. So I really see them drafting his replacement in the first round then possibly a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: This year we are going to need to rely on the Offense more. If we retool with some fresh speed demon WR's in the draft and get lucky on them picking up the level of intensity of the NFL we might be able to make waves this year. Safety is going to be a draft pick that could go 2 or 4th round. I do believe Digg's is done as a Bill. He believes the window of opportunity is gone for this team He really is going to be a thorn in our side this year. I just don't see him having a pro-bowl type of year. So I really see them drafting his replacement in the first round then possibly a safety. I'm torn. I'm at the point I may want them to trade back and pick up a 3rd rounder. Then use a 4th to move up a little in the 2nd. Use the picks for WR, then a DT to take over Daquon Jones spot in a year or 2. Not sure on the 3rd round pick, but use our other 4th on a Safety to take over the starting spot opposite Rapp in 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I sure hope Edwards was signed for the Rapp role, and that we're not done. We lost Hyde and Poyer. To replace him with Edwards only, who's a bit of a part time player, would be underwhelming at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 21 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Edwards came and signed … and Blackmon came and went … he must have a Plan B I don't know why we wouldn't take 2 yrs on him. 21 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Rapp was signed to start. You don't give Rapp a 3 year deal then sit him. It's my opinion Blackmon and both DL told Beane they won't agree to just 1 year deals, and I don't blame them. Does Beane not get the players around the league see him sign players like floyed to 1 year deals then not re-sign them? Blackmon and the guy from San Fran that signed with Jax don't need 1 year prove it deals. Don't be shocked if somone signs Blackmon to at least a 3 year deal and they should. I don't want Rapp starting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, boyst said: I don't know why we wouldn't take 2 yrs on him. Honestly I don't either. Unless they plan to draft one and start him in 25'. But I would still have done a 2 year deal with him for depth purposes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 47 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: McDermott's D can't stop KC for 13 seconds, can't win an AFC championship ( or even get past the division round for 3 years straight), has blown leads when Josh Allen has left the field with a lead. How about we make a change? Nah, let's just keep doing that. Hmm ok the topic wasn’t should McDermy be the coach. It was is it a luxury to sign another S in FA at a reasonable deal? So that’s what I was responding to. I was in favor of firing him after 13 seconds as well. But since he’s the coach I’d think another S makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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