Your Brown Eye Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm a daily fantasy player. I know Mack Hollins. Easy big guy, save some women for the rest of us 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Is this a serious question or is this sarcasm? My sarcasm meter was pegged when I read it, so thinking the latter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 How did it come to this ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 39 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: That's more about about opportunities then a lack of talent. This is the same team that struggles to get Pitts involved. The year prior he caught 57 balls. I'm a daily fantasy player. I know Mack Hollins. Yea as a person who rostered Davante Adam’s on my fantasy team in 2022, I hated the sniper Mack Hollins lol he had a good year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Von Miller was a cast off player? Are the Bills the only team to overpay for players? You’re right. No one would sign Leonard Floyd to $7 million last year. How much did the 49ers sign him for? Has to be less than the Bills right? FYI I have nothing against Floyd. At least that guy still remembers you have to make tackles when you play on the D-Line. He always put forth an effort when he was on the field. Miller was already on the decline when he got to the Rams and he forgot what the word tackle meant. We had to sign Floyd because Miller was completely removed from the D Edge position for close to a season and an half. I don't care if the guy was hurt or not. We had to bring someone in to try and get pressure on the oppositions QB. Because Miller was no longer a option for the majority of the past two years. If you watched the last super bowl the Rams played, Von Miller was a non factor for 85% of that game. He only had 2 sacks in that game. Those were the only tackles he had in the entire game. 1 sack was a group of players getting to Burrow at the same time and he got credit for it. He took his typical plays off while on the field giving almost no effort at times, when he was on the field. That is exact the way he played after Buffalo signed him. I did not like the signing and a lot of people here on this forum hated it. We paid him 4 times the amount of money this guy was worth at his age. He was great while in Denver because he played team D back then. From 2021 he became just a guy that wanted sacks and made no effort to tackle the opposition no matter what was happening on the field. He was more of a liability than help last year and this year I don't see anything to change this assessment of what he brings to the table for us. I hope I am wrong......but don't bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 5 hours ago, mrags said: Well, let’s add the $2m from this signing and bunch it with all the other stupid $2m signings they have and see how much we can come up with. I’d be willing to bet that at the end you’d have at least $10-14m you could have spent on a decent FA WR or any other position for that matter. Meanwhile, your special teams suck anyway, just like it did last year, so no loss, no gain. And you give a few undrafted rookie FAs a chance to make the roster. Problem solved. In one of my previous lives as a teacher, I'd give you a 0 on this essay answer because you failed to answer the question posed, which was to actually name some available WRs. 5 hours ago, Toyo321 said: I would rather pay someone after free agency or after training camp. It sure would not cost us $3 Mil then for a special teams player / WR #5 or #6. Even a drafted 5th or 6th round guy would be cheaper than this. Maybe that's how it works in Madden but not in real life, dude. Hollins' value is that he's a good STer who plays gunner, a position that every team with playoff expectations needs to fill with a competent player not just some random body. That he may be able to catch some passes is a bonus. Edited March 13 by SoTier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 21 pages (and counting) on a backup WR. Impressive! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Eh, we get one of these guys every year. Only this time they were even cheaper (because we're broke). John Brown Cole Beasley Emmanuel Sanders Jamison Crowder Trent Sherfield Mack Hollins Oh shoot, we're going backwards... 🫢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 9 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Not kidding, I like Hollins a lot. I thought he would break out when ATL replaced Ridder with Heinicke, but he played equally as bad as Ridder. He got some buzz on the raiders a couple years ago…def could work out. Atlanta was an absolute mess last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 9 minutes ago, SoTier said: Maybe that's how it works in Madden but not in real life, dude. Hollins' value is that he's a good STer who plays gunner, a position that every team with playoff expectations needs to fill with a competent player not just some random body. That he may be able to catch some passes is a bonus. This guy is just a random body that has done practically nothing to make him worthy of being kept by any team like Miami, Philly, Atlanta and the Raiders over the past 7 years. He did not even play a single game in 2018 for Philly. If this guy was such asset, at WR and or ST, and he can't earn a spot on any team for more than 2yrs, this might be the player for you If you do play Madden.... which I don't dude. This is real life and not a video game where you can just change players with a click of the button. Lol..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 We’re plugging holes right now. Why the venom in this thread? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: You’re saying we’re worse off at WR because we lost Gabe Davis, Sherfield, and Harty? I must respectfully disagree. Gabe Davis had 27 regular season TD receptions and 6 more in the postseason while earning a total of just under $4 million. How have so many convinced themselves that losing him is addition by subtraction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis had 27 regular season TD receptions and 6 more in the postseason while earning a total of just under $4 million. How have so many convinced themselves that losing him is addition by subtraction? I don't think that's a common perception. Folks are imagining an upgrade through the draft, which I don't think is implausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: We finally got our #1! lets freaking go boys. Heck to the yeah SEAN! A++++ Signing 1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: How did it come to this ?? Sean. McDermott. Until he goes, there’s ZERO hope. Not even the most talented QB in the league can overcome this bozo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, McBean said: We finally got our #1! lets freaking go boys. Heck to the yeah SEAN! A++++ Signing Sean. McDermott. Until he goes, there’s ZERO hope. Not even the most talented QB in the league can overcome this bozo. You want McD to clear out 50 million in cap space magically for Justin Jefferson? Or do you want these guys to play for charity? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis had 27 regular season TD receptions and 6 more in the postseason while earning a total of just under $4 million. How have so many convinced themselves that losing him is addition by subtraction? Gabe Davis was 128 out of 153 wrs in the ESPN Analytics 'open' metric last season. That's why he disappears for so long ....... https://espnanalytics.com/rtm/ He was also 112th of 153 in the overall rank He can be upgraded Edited March 14 by Turk71 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Gabe Davis was 128 out of 153 wrs in the ESPN Analytics 'open' metric last season. That's why he disappears for so long ....... Well he was 68th in targets, 49th in yards, and 18th in TDs, and he did it for next to nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Billl said: Well he was 68th in targets, 49th in yards, and 18th in TDs, and he did it for next to nothing. The guy they replace him with in the draft won’t be getting much more money Edited March 14 by Aussie Joe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: The guy they replace him with in the draft won’t be getting much more money They just replaced him with Mack Hollins…who is earning more than Gabe did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Billl said: Well he was 68th in targets, 49th in yards, and 18th in TDs, and he did it for next to nothing. His contract was up. The Bills got good results for the $$$ and wisely decided not to give him a new, more expensive contract. Easy to understand imo. He scored a lot of touchdowns for a guy with limited skills, perfect time to move on and upgrade. I doubt he ever scores tds at that rate again. The Bills score a lot of touchdowns by the way. I think they will find others who can catch them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Turk71 said: His contract was up. The Bills got good results for the $$$ and wisely decided not to give him a new, more expensive contract. Easy to understand imo. He scored a lot of touchdowns for a guy with limited skills, perfect time to move on and upgrade. I doubt he ever scores tds at that rate again. The Bills score a lot of touchdowns by the way. I think they will find others who can catch them. Right, this POV makes perfect sense. It’s the people who act like Gabe was somehow holding the team back by “only” averaging 700 yards and 7 TDs a year while earning near the league minimum who have lost perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Billl said: They just replaced him with Mack Hollins…who is earning more than Gabe did. No ..Mack Hollins is replacing Trent Sherfield for about the same money 3 minutes ago, Billl said: Right, this POV makes perfect sense. It’s the people who act like Gabe was somehow holding the team back by “only” averaging 700 yards and 7 TDs a year while earning near the league minimum who have lost perspective. Why do you care how people here are “acting “? Edited March 14 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Aussie Joe said: No ..mock Hollins is replacing Trent Sherfield for about the same money You’re so close to getting the point. Nobody would expect a guy coming in on a $1-2 million contract to put up anywhere near the 750 yards and 7 TDs that Davis routinely produced…because guys like that are getting 8 figures a season. Guys who earn $1-2 million put up 86 yards and 1 TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 1 minute ago, Billl said: You’re so close to getting the point. Nobody would expect a guy coming in on a $1-2 million contract to put up anywhere near the 750 yards and 7 TDs that Davis routinely produced…because guys like that are getting 8 figures a season. Guys who earn $1-2 million put up 86 yards and 1 TD. What did MVS put up? Didn’t you play him $10m last year ? Edited March 14 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: What did MVS put up? Didn’t you play him $10m last year ? Yep, and he didn’t come anywhere near putting up 1600 yards and 14 TDs over the past two seasons like Davis did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Billl said: Yep, and he didn’t come anywhere near putting up 1600 yards and 14 TDs over the past two seasons like Davis did. Ok ..thanks for your concern … Gabe has left us for greener pastures and more $$$ … We’ll be fine … Cheers AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, SoTier said: In one of my previous lives as a teacher, I'd give you a 0 on this essay answer because you failed to answer the question posed, which was to actually name some available WRs. Maybe that's how it works in Madden but not in real life, dude. Hollins' value is that he's a good STer who plays gunner, a position that every team with playoff expectations needs to fill with a competent player not just some random body. That he may be able to catch some passes is a bonus. That’s cute. Are you as cute and witty in real life too? Or just your online teaching fantasies? Hollins is not good. Sherfield and Harty weren’t good either. And everyone talked about them like people are talking about Hollins now. And next year this time we’ll have cut Hollins because he sucked just as bad as his predecessors and here we will be, looking for actual talent at the position again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I think at best he can be similar Davis but an upgrade over Sherfield. Seems like a nice depth WR to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Toyo321 said: FYI I have nothing against Floyd. At least that guy still remembers you have to make tackles when you play on the D-Line. He always put forth an effort when he was on the field. Miller was already on the decline when he got to the Rams and he forgot what the word tackle meant. We had to sign Floyd because Miller was completely removed from the D Edge position for close to a season and an half. I don't care if the guy was hurt or not. We had to bring someone in to try and get pressure on the oppositions QB. Because Miller was no longer a option for the majority of the past two years. If you watched the last super bowl the Rams played, Von Miller was a non factor for 85% of that game. He only had 2 sacks in that game. Those were the only tackles he had in the entire game. 1 sack was a group of players getting to Burrow at the same time and he got credit for it. He took his typical plays off while on the field giving almost no effort at times, when he was on the field. That is exact the way he played after Buffalo signed him. I did not like the signing and a lot of people here on this forum hated it. We paid him 4 times the amount of money this guy was worth at his age. He was great while in Denver because he played team D back then. From 2021 he became just a guy that wanted sacks and made no effort to tackle the opposition no matter what was happening on the field. He was more of a liability than help last year and this year I don't see anything to change this assessment of what he brings to the table for us. I hope I am wrong......but don't bet on it. 2 sacks in a Super Bowl and he was a non-factor. No way you said that. As soon as he came to Buffalo he forgot what a tackle was? How did he have 21 tackles and 8 sacks in 9 games with us before he tore his knee up? Did you forget? He was one of the league leaders in sacks before getting hurt lol. 1 hour ago, Toyo321 said: This guy is just a random body that has done practically nothing to make him worthy of being kept by any team like Miami, Philly, Atlanta and the Raiders over the past 7 years. He did not even play a single game in 2018 for Philly. If this guy was such asset, at WR and or ST, and he can't earn a spot on any team for more than 2yrs, this might be the player for you If you do play Madden.... which I don't dude. This is real life and not a video game where you can just change players with a click of the button. Lol..... Is Mack good enough to make the roster of a Super Bowl contender as a depth WR? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 12 minutes ago, mrags said: That’s cute. Are you as cute and witty in real life too? Or just your online teaching fantasies? Hollins is not good. Sherfield and Harty weren’t good either. And everyone talked about them like people are talking about Hollins now. And next year this time we’ll have cut Hollins because he sucked just as bad as his predecessors and here we will be, looking for actual talent at the position again. You are the most miserable and whiny person on the history of the internet and there’s billions of people on the World Wide Web. Do you think whining incessantly makes your penis grow or something? Is this the motivation? 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 20 minutes ago, mrags said: That’s cute. Are you as cute and witty in real life too? Or just your online teaching fantasies? Hollins is not good. Sherfield and Harty weren’t good either. And everyone talked about them like people are talking about Hollins now. And next year this time we’ll have cut Hollins because he sucked just as bad as his predecessors and here we will be, looking for actual talent at the position again. I'm trying to see what the option is here. It's not like we were signing Ridley for the contract he got today. This is the nature of things now. It's how it goes when you have to pay a top-tier QB. Big acquisitions in FA will be few & far between. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You are the most miserable and whiny person on the history of the internet and there’s billions of people on the World Wide Web. Do you think whining incessantly makes your penis grow or something? Is this the motivation? Oh look. You’re back to play. Providing nothing to the argument as usual. Just expressing your dislike for me and my opinion. Oh my god, I’m so upset, Royal on the Bills message board and some other people don’t like me. wait…….. nope, actually it didn’t grow. You don’t do it for me. You can keep trying tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) So here is what I’ve learned - Doesn’t like shoes - Something isn’t worth eating if you can’t use your hands - Cats = evil - Takes his snakes for walks - Soup makes you soft - TV also makes you soft, minus anime. - Doesn’t own a car - Wanted to live in the Falcons training facility I’m a fan 😂🤣😂🤣 Edited March 14 by TheyCallMeAndy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I didn’t realize he and Trubisky were teammates! They also had lunchpail WR Ryan Switzer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, Success said: I'm trying to see what the option is here. It's not like we were signing Ridley for the contract he got today. This is the nature of things now. It's how it goes when you have to pay a top-tier QB. Big acquisitions in FA will be few & far between. Again, not the point. Overpaying for a guy that will contribute almost nothing is taking money away from someone that might actually be able to do something. Again, the would you rather argument from last year would you rather have -Deonte Harty -Trent Sherfield -Tyler Matakevich or -Deandre Hopkins -2 rookie guys that contributed the same as Sherfield and Matakevich at less than half the cost. what your not getting is that the cost of both groups is roughly the same. And Hollins is a guy that fits into that first group. I’m not going to ask a hypothetical this season because we don’t know how things will play out yet with FA WRs, or any other position for that matter. But the point is the point. Last year we signed group A when we easily could have had group B for the same money. And that’s the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So here is what I’ve learned - Doesn’t like shoes - Something isn’t worth eating if you can’t use your hands - Cats = evil - Takes his snakes for walks - Soup makes you soft - TV also makes you soft, minus anime. - Doesn’t own a car - Wanted to live in the Falcons training facility I’m a fan 😂🤣😂🤣 See! Eccentric weirdo! I love it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: See! Eccentric weirdo! I love it! They make the dead of the off-season fun!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: They make the dead of the off-season fun!!! Looking forward to super awkward moments with Maddy Glab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Looking forward to super awkward moments with Maddy Glab. And even more “live mic!” awkward moments with Maddy lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, mrags said: Oh look. You’re back to play. Providing nothing to the argument as usual. Just expressing your dislike for me and my opinion. Oh my god, I’m so upset, Royal on the Bills message board and some other people don’t like me. wait…….. nope, actually it didn’t grow. You don’t do it for me. You can keep trying tho. I am not trying to make it grow. I have a feeling that you can’t see it anymore and you don’t even know what it looks like now. People, including myself have made very logical arguments but you’re one of those guys that everyone is wrong and you are always right. You against the world right? This time of the year last year, what was your opinion on Terrell Bernard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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