Warriorspikes51 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Please go to the NFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 hate to admit it but KC just gets it 5 1 14 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it They have a plan… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it Came here to post just this. Meanwhile we're over here with post-injury Tre and 30 year old Douglas, acting afraid to do anything with either of them. 6 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Came here to post just this. Meanwhile we're over here with post-injury Tre and 30 year old Douglas, acting afraid to do anything with either of them. This is literally bull#### You have absolutely no idea what their plans are 1 1 3 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 So I’m guessing they’re doing this to ballpark the contract he’d likely fetch on the open market too? Maybe try and retain him @ a similar price. Hard to imagine him willingly go anywhere else for a similar price… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Came here to post just this. Meanwhile we're over here with post-injury Tre and 30 year old Douglas, acting afraid to do anything with either of them. Plus $14M to Dawson Knox which is essentially Kelce money and 5 times what they pay Gray as TE#2. Between Miller, Tre and Knox that is $55M in cap. 7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 So either KC keeps Snead this upcoming season or gets a 1st round pick in a trade? That’s some bs Superbowl Champion problem right there. Rich stays rich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 14 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This is literally bull#### You have absolutely no idea what their plans are Duh, the plan is to lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs. Everyone knows that… 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, 90sBills said: So either KC keeps Snead this upcoming season or gets a 1st round pick in a trade? That’s some bs Superbowl Champion problem right there. Rich stays rich. Not a bad outcome for a 4th Round pick … even if they lose him, they get a big return and he has already done a job for them … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Franchise Snead and sign Jones to Aaron Donald $. I think that would be a wrap for them in big FA spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ngbills said: Plus $14M to Dawson Knox which is essentially Kelce money and 5 times what they pay Gray as TE#2. Between Miller, Tre and Knox that is $55M in cap. Plus they just signed a punter that we recently used a draft pick for and will pay him about 5 times less than their current punter, and we know his leg is bigger than any in the league. As much as people hate to see the Mcbeane bashers, we feel the same with the defenders, joking off every move that's bad for the Bills as "nothing to see here" Edited February 27 by Gunsgoodtime 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 The franchise tag for a corner is like $20M, isn’t it? I think I’d rather see the Chiefs have to pay that and be in the same boat next offseason than to have them receive picks from anyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, schoolhouserock said: The franchise tag for a corner is like $20M, isn’t it? I think I’d rather see the Chiefs have to pay that and be in the same boat next offseason than to have them receive picks from anyone. $19.8 plus they have to sign Chris Jones. They were awful last year with him off the field. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 21 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This is literally bull#### You have absolutely no idea what their plans are Let’s just say I’ll be pleasantly surprised if just one of them is not on the roster. I know people love Douglas, but paying him 10M when we have Benford and a guy we invested a RD1 in seems like the exact thing KC doesn’t do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Let’s just say I’ll be pleasantly surprised if just one of them is not on the roster. I know people love Douglas, but paying him 10M when we have Benford and a guy we invested a RD1 in seems like the exact thing KC doesn’t do. You’re not gonna pay Douglas $10 million that contract is set up so that it can be extended 26 minutes ago, ngbills said: Plus $14M to Dawson Knox which is essentially Kelce money and 5 times what they pay Gray as TE#2. Between Miller, Tre and Knox that is $55M in cap. Just can’t count for injuries whenever it’s your star players. If those guys were healthy, we would love them taking up that cat but it’s not controllable. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 41 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it Veach and Reid are playing chess. Beane and McD are playing checkers 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 26 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Veach and Reid are playing chess. Beane and McD are playing checkers Belichick playing solitaire 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, mannc said: They have a plan… Yeah,but who needs a plan when you have a process! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Yeah,but who needs a plan when you have a process! Especially the process built on the success of William & Mary and the Carolina Panthers. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it Yeah, they really do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it There is a reason they have all those rings. OK, multiple reasons, and that’s what you need, everything to line up just right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: You’re not gonna pay Douglas $10 million that contract is set up so that it can be extended Just can’t count for injuries whenever it’s your star players. If those guys were healthy, we would love them taking up that cat but it’s not controllable. I don’t really have a ton of interest in extending a 30 year old DB to be honest.. Id rather roll with Benford & Elam outside, with Johnson in the slot. Poyer at Safety, sign back Rapp and then draft a couple CB’s and a S in the middle rounds. I’m not waiting around to see if Tre can get back and I’d rather use Douglas 10M towards a WR or DL help. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Teams would be foolish to trade for Sneed. Let KC threaten to franchise and trade him. He's not going to be a difference maker in any other team's secondary. Let KC franchise him and then be stuck with a huge deal in addition to what they have to pay Jones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Pretty much as expected. Jones is their priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in MD Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it They won two Super Bowls after trading away the best receiver in the AFC. They definitely get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 25 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don’t really have a ton of interest in extending a 30 year old DB to be honest.. Id rather roll with Benford & Elam outside, with Johnson in the slot. Poyer at Safety, sign back Rapp and then draft a couple CB’s and a S in the middle rounds. I’m not waiting around to see if Tre can get back and I’d rather use Douglas 10M towards a WR or DL help. We all hope that Elam rounds out in the form, but he has done nothing to earn that kind of trust 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 36 minutes ago, Augie said: There is a reason they have all those rings. OK, multiple reasons, and that’s what you need, everything to line up just right. And one of those reasons is they don't have Sean McDermott as their HC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, LittleSammy said: And one of those reasons is they don't have Sean McDermott as their HC. You are welcome to your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 53 minutes ago, Augie said: There is a reason they have all those rings. OK, multiple reasons, and that’s what you need, everything to line up just right. Multiple reasons that they have multiple rings. More often than not they make their own luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: Multiple reasons that they have multiple rings. More often than not they make their own luck. That is certainly how history will judge it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We all hope that Elam rounds out in the form, but he has done nothing to earn that kind of trust I agree, but that’s why I’d draft a couple corners in the mid-rounds. Benford & Elam both going into Year 3 and then draft 2-3 guys to compete with Elam Rounds 3–6. I don’t expect them to do that at all, but if I ask myself what would KC do?… they’d probably use 10M + Tre’s money somewhere else besides a CB coming off two major injuries and another turning 30 by the time the season starts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: hate to admit it but KC just gets it Yeah I remember when the Bills were $32M under the cap in 2017 and McDermott(and Beane from Carolina) decided not to franchise tag and trade Gilmore...........and he immediately became the best free agent on the market, signed a huge deal with a division rival and the Bills got nothing for him. Sneed is good but Gilmore became the DPOY. When I questioned the obvious stupidity of not maximizing such an asset when they needed those draft picks to re-tool their team and get a young QB...........we had our usual folks talking about how not using the franchise tag made the Bills look like a more player-friendly organization to play for and benefit the Bills in free agency. 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board. I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, jkeerie said: Teams would be foolish to trade for Sneed. Let KC threaten to franchise and trade him. He's not going to be a difference maker in any other team's secondary. Let KC franchise him and then be stuck with a huge deal in addition to what they have to pay Jones. Curious as to why you feel he wouldn’t be a difference maker for other teams? He has proven to be a top corner the last couple of years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Plus they just signed a punter that we recently used a draft pick for and will pay him about 5 times less than their current punter, and we know his leg is bigger than any in the league. As much as people hate to see the Mcbeane bashers, we feel the same with the defenders, joking off every move that's bad for the Bills as "nothing to see here" Yeah, it’s because most McBeane bashers say stupid ***** that isn’t a realistic or honest an assessment. The defenders do it too. Nobody wants to paint the full picture, they just want to paint their picture. Exhibit A: Referencing the draft pick spent on a Matt Araiza as a blunder. As if McBeane missed wildly and there weren’t outside legal implications that nobody inside of One Bills Drive could control. They had zero ability to hold him on the roster as it would have been a massive distraction until things were sorted out and he wasn’t eligible for the Commissioner’s Exempt List. Here we are over a year later, things cleared up, and Kansas City took a chance. THEY’RE PLAYING CHESS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Veach was Sirius at 2pm talking about their desire to sign him and Jones back for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 7 minutes ago, 90sBills said: Curious as to why you feel he wouldn’t be a difference maker for other teams? He has proven to be a top corner the last couple of years. He has a great supporting cast at KC in a Spags controlled defense. He could well be an effective corner on another team...but he may not be. I wouldn't give up a lot of draft capital to find out. I'd take a chance on KC either keeping him at a huge payday or letting him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, boyst said: Veach was Sirius at 2pm talking about their desire to sign him and Jones back for next year. They'd be foolish not to re-sign them both. Just as Beane said he'd like to re-sign all of the Bill's free agents, it's not feasible. In KC's case, it may be feasible but both Jones and Sneed will cost top dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, jkeerie said: He has a great supporting cast at KC in a Spags controlled defense. He could well be an effective corner on another team...but he may not be. I wouldn't give up a lot of draft capital to find out. I'd take a chance on KC either keeping him at a huge payday or letting him go. Huh. You realized this is the first year Spags has a top defense for KC right? It’s because of them drafting and developing players like Snead. Spags system didn’t produce him. His ability (along with McDuffie’s) locking up opponents’ receivers is what enabled Spags pressure packages to work so effectively. I hope another team ponies up for his services. Because if he’s back with KC next season expect their defense to keep being one of the best. 43 minutes ago, Success said: KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board. I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top. I mean it’s not unwarranted right? They’ve been the most successful team the last 5-6 years. Winning 3 Championships while not being cap strapped. Drafting and developing players to turnover roster after roster without skipping a beat. That’s admirable. They’ve been better than everyone else at doing that. With a copy cat league like the NFL other teams will try to emulate as they should. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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