Pit Bulls are so cuddly!!! Breed more of them.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, teef said:

and the fighting continues...

 

But, we are using our words! Nobody has been bit.   

 

Yet. 

 

13 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

The capability to murder is part of the fetish charm.

 

I mentioned earlier I worked with a guy who seemed normal enough, until he started talking about his dog. He told me “I like to see fear in a grown man’s eyes.”  Um, excuse me???  I don’t know about the dog, but that is a guy who has a dog for all the wrong reasons. 

 

I’ve been bit by a dog once in my life. A friend’s little Schnauzer jumped up and broke the skin on my thigh thru my pants. I was not in fear for my life, but I did consider launching it off the 8th floor balcony. It’s not about how sweet an animal can be, you also have to consider how lethal it can be. If the Schnauzer goes wild, I’ll be OK. 

[Bray Wyatt]

14 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

But, we are using our words! Nobody has been bit.   

 

Yet. 

 

 

I mentioned earlier I worked with a guy who seemed normal enough, until he started talking about his dog. He told me “I like to see fear in a grown man’s eyes.”  Um, excuse me???  I don’t know about the dog, but that is a guy who has a dog for all the wrong reasons. 

 

I’ve been bit by a dog once in my life. A friend’s little Schnauzer jumped up and broke the skin on my thigh thru my pants. I was not in fear for my life, but I did consider launching it off the 8th floor balcony. It’s not about how sweet an animal can be, you also have to consider how lethal it can be. If the Schnauzer goes wild, I’ll be OK. 

 

I also have only been bit by a done once in my life, was a little dog as well. I was in 5th grade and waiting at the bus stop when a neighbor was walking the dog. I went to pet it and it bit me in my calf, went right through my pants and had the definitive puncture mark with bruising around it.  Needless to say, I was not traumatized for the rest of my life nor did I ever feel my life was  in danger.

 

It is a bit disingenuous to try and compare the tiny dog bites with that of a pit.

 

 

[muppy]

One last anecdotal backstory just for BS sake (backstory)

 

I owned boxers raising my kids. I LOVED the breed. But they each of THREE all died at 8 years of age due to heart-cancer issues. I thought I need to own a dog who will have longer life something smaller but similar. So Boston terrier was my choice. I see a rescue with a Boston terrier mix. I met her and she was a bundle of joy. We adopted her and at approx  6 months her belly started to sway and she was getting longer. This isn't looking very Boston terrier ish too me. She was a pitbull. With whom I made every mistake and in rectifying those became involved with and learned about them personally. Before acquiring her I would not have had one by choice either, 

 

the moral to this story? When we plan. God Laughs 🙂

Edited March 5 by muppy

[Bray Wyatt]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

One last anecdotal backstory just for BS sake (backstory)

 

I owned boxers raising my kids. I LOVED the breed. But they each of THREE all died at 8 years of age due to heart-cancer issues. I thought I need to own a dog who will have longer life something smaller but similar. So Boston terrier was my choice. I see a rescue with a Boston terrier mix. I met her and she was a bundle of joy. We adopted her and at approx  months her belly started to sway and she was getting longer. This isn't looking very Boston terrier ish too me. She was a pitbull. With whom I made every mistake and in rectifying those became involved with and learned about them personally. Before acquiring her I would not have had one by choice either, 

 

As I said earlier my wife's family when she was growing up bred shepherds and boxers, she loves them as well but stays away from both breeds due to their issues with cancer.

 

After growing up with Danes and their lives being so short (my favorite personality of dogs that I have had though) wanted to go the smaller and longer life route as well.

 

Boston terriers are adorable btw! I have been thinking about them as a future possibility

 

 

[muppy]

22 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

I also have only been bit by a done once in my life, was a little dog as well. I was in 5th grade and waiting at the bus stop when a neighbor was walking the dog. I went to pet it and it bit me in my calf, went right through my pants and had the definitive puncture mark with bruising around it.  Needless to say, I was not traumatized for the rest of my life nor did I ever feel my life was  in danger.

 

It is a bit disingenuous to try and compare the tiny dog bites with that of a pit.

 

 

my besties ankle biter bit me on the back of my calf , drew blood. Lil chit (chijuaajua) I don't hate her but she hates ME lol  My friend felt so bad. I milked it, obviously

 

No I didn't  but anyway 🙂

3 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

As I said earlier my wife's family when she was growing up bred shepherds and boxers, she loves them as well but stays away from both breeds due to their issues with cancer.

 

After growing up with Danes and their lives being so short (my favorite personality of dogs that I have had though) wanted to go the smaller and longer life route as well.

 

Boston terriers are adorable btw! I have been thinking about them as a future possibility

 

 

the smooshed in noses can create future health issues if that be the case. That just depends on the dog. The Boston's I have met were the Biggest LOVE BUGS. Best to you 🙂

[Royale with Cheese]

17 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

We need more stats from www.pittiesarecuddly.com

 

That's a much better website.  

[BringBackFergy]

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/
 

Great article. 
“Many dog advocates argue that there is no such thing as a bad breed, only a bad owner. Still, it can be helpful to understand which breeds of dogs are most commonly involved in bite incidents or acts of aggression. Dog attacks by breed statistics are invaluable both for individuals looking for a dog to adopt as well as for those who interact with animals who want to minimize risk.”

 

“Pit bulls are both more likely to be involved in bite incidents and more likely to cause serious injury or death when a bite does occur. In fact, from 1979 to 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determined pit bulls were involved in the most fatal dog attacks, accounting for 28% deaths due to dog bites during that same time period.⁷”

 

 

[DrW]

Again, just anecdotal evidence, but from personal experience. About 8 years ago my daughter, 15 at the time, was on her daily jog when she saw a Jeep stuck in the mud after a very rare rainfall. She wanted to help the driver, when she was bit by his dog. The skin around her left knee was broken in several places; some wounds were very deep and got infected. The doctor gave us some IV equipment to take home because she needed antibiotics for some time. You can still see the scars... a traumatic experience, especially for a young girl. The dog was a pit bull.

 

Edited March 6 by DrW

[JoPoy88]

8 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/
 

Great article. 
“Many dog advocates argue that there is no such thing as a bad breed, only a bad owner. Still, it can be helpful to understand which breeds of dogs are most commonly involved in bite incidents or acts of aggression. Dog attacks by breed statistics are invaluable both for individuals looking for a dog to adopt as well as for those who interact with animals who want to minimize risk.”

 

“Pit bulls are both more likely to be involved in bite incidents and more likely to cause serious injury or death when a bite does occur. In fact, from 1979 to 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determined pit bulls were involved in the most fatal dog attacks, accounting for 28% deaths due to dog bites during that same time period.⁷”

 

 

The “responsible” pit owners in this thread and around the country really won’t be persuaded by the mountains of evidence that these dogs are dangerous and potentially deadly. And that’s due to two things - ignorance and arrogance. The fact that some owners believe that any amount of correct training and acclimation can drive out all instincts that have been bred into certain breeds of dogs over generations and generations is frankly laughable and childishly naive.

Edited March 6 by JoPoy88

[muppy]

3 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

The “responsible” pit owners in this thread and around the country really won’t be persuaded by the mountains of evidence that these dogs are dangerous and potentially deadly. And that’s due to two things - ignorance and arrogance. The fact that some owners believe that any amount of correct training and acclimation can drive out all instincts that have been bred into certain breeds of dogs over generations and generations is frankly laughable and childishly naive.

I see you calling me dumb and arrogant. Oh I forgot childish. Gracias. no really. MADE MY DAY. Bless your little heart.

[Augie]

40 minutes ago, muppy said:

I see you calling me dumb and arrogant. Oh I forgot childish. Gracias. no really. MADE MY DAY. Bless your little heart.

 

I take it you were not persuaded?   😋

[nucci]

no need to breed . There are plenty of dogs available for adoption

[LewPort71]

26 minutes ago, nucci said:

no need to breed . There are plenty of dogs available for adoption

Truth ^^^^^

 

I'd venture to GUESS  that every animal shelter in the USA is at least at 50% capacity or more.  And that's a low guess.

 

[PromoTheRobot]

On 2/25/2024 at 8:18 PM, Gugny said:

They’re SO misunderstood!!

 

Maybe, but a chihuahua can't maul you to death. (It will try, though.)

[Draconator]

For all of you who think Pitties are a dangerous breed, the main diety disagrees with you. 

[Warcodered]

On 3/5/2024 at 1:20 PM, muppy said:

my besties ankle biter bit me on the back of my calf , drew blood. Lil chit (chijuaajua) I don't hate her but she hates ME lol  My friend felt so bad. I milked it, obviously

Speaking of Chihuahuas.

 

 

[Augie]

22 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Maybe, but a chihuahua can't maul you to death. (It will try, though.)

 

In high school the kid across the street had a chihuahua. It fell off his couch, broke its neck and died. Fragile little nasty monster, that one was. I was not heartbroken. 

[BringBackFergy]

https://idahonews.com/amp/news/local/family-and-officers-intervene-in-violent-pitbull-attack-in-boise-two-seriously-hurt
 

Just misunderstood. 
 

[boyst]

Cats > dogs < goldfish

 

Other than the bloody st Patrick's day massacre of 1972 goldfish are mostly peaceful 

[aristocrat]

Never thought I’d own a pit. Found one on the street about 12 years ago. Brindle color just looks full muscle about 70 lbs now. He’s been attacked twice in his life both by labs. One of the labs killed a German shepherd the week after he attacked my dog and was put down. My brother was also attacked by a lab when he was about 5.
ive  raised my kids with this pit and not once have I ever even worried he’d do something. The only dog I’ve ever been bitten by was my childhood dog which was a dachshund.

funnyish story. He used to hate water cause he fell in the ocean down the break wall at my old beach house in Carolina. Got cut to hell with all the little things. Well my gf at the time would pretend like she needed help in the pool to get him to come in the water. So he then thought everyone in the water needed help. We were at my lake house here in ny and my nephew was swimming off the dock so he went in after him and grabbed him with his paws thinking he was saving him and scratched him pretty good.  Now we keep him away from the water when people are swimming lol. 
he’s the best dog I’ve ever known

[Bad Things]

Fun Fact: American Pit Bull Terriers are illegal down here in NZ. 
 

The following five breeds cannot be imported into New Zealand: American Pit Bull Terrier, Dogo Argentino, Brazilian Fila, Japanese Tosa.

https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Resource-material-Dog-Control-Key-Facts?OpenDocument#:~:text=dog obedience course.-,Banned breeds,Council is agreed by Parliament.

[Gugny]

4 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Never thought I’d own a pit. Found one on the street about 12 years ago. Brindle color just looks full muscle about 70 lbs now. He’s been attacked twice in his life both by labs. One of the labs killed a German shepherd the week after he attacked my dog and was put down. My brother was also attacked by a lab when he was about 5.
ive  raised my kids with this pit and not once have I ever even worried he’d do something. The only dog I’ve ever been bitten by was my childhood dog which was a dachshund.

funnyish story. He used to hate water cause he fell in the ocean down the break wall at my old beach house in Carolina. Got cut to hell with all the little things. Well my gf at the time would pretend like she needed help in the pool to get him to come in the water. So he then thought everyone in the water needed help. We were at my lake house here in ny and my nephew was swimming off the dock so he went in after him and grabbed him with his paws thinking he was saving him and scratched him pretty good.  Now we keep him away from the water when people are swimming lol. 
he’s the best dog I’ve ever known

You’ve got more sh!t than a barnyard. 

[aristocrat]

26 minutes ago, Gugny said:

You’ve got more sh!t than a barnyard. 

Just my experience with my pit that’s all. I also didn’t mention that I fostered a couple and found them homes. The last one went to my old lady’s cousin and I will never forgive her for giving him to them. That dog was amazing. Every time he shares a photo of the dog cuddling with their baby I’m both happy he’s in a great home but sad he’s not with us. 

[BringBackFergy]

3 hours ago, Bad Things said:

Fun Fact: American Pit Bull Terriers are illegal down here in NZ. 
 

The following five breeds cannot be imported into New Zealand: American Pit Bull Terrier, Dogo Argentino, Brazilian Fila, Japanese Tosa.

https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Resource-material-Dog-Control-Key-Facts?OpenDocument#:~:text=dog obedience course.-,Banned breeds,Council is agreed by Parliament.

I bet this one had something to do with that decision. Good call!

”ohhhh, but this puppy is so sweet. Loves our family”. 
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/blood-smeared-on-walls-horror-dog-attack-leaves-family-reeling/news-story/9e1ccc27d53a955c5096be0bb2215831?amp

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

Just my experience with my pit that’s all. I also didn’t mention that I fostered a couple and found them homes. The last one went to my old lady’s cousin and I will never forgive her for giving him to them. That dog was amazing. Every time he shares a photo of the dog cuddling with their baby I’m both happy he’s in a great home but sad he’s not with us. 

Is the baby no longer with us? RIP. That’s the whole point of this thread. 

[aristocrat]

16 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I bet this one had something to do with that decision. Good call!

”ohhhh, but this puppy is so sweet. Loves our family”. 
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/blood-smeared-on-walls-horror-dog-attack-leaves-family-reeling/news-story/9e1ccc27d53a955c5096be0bb2215831?amp

Is the baby no longer with us? RIP. That’s the whole point of this thread. 

Baby is all good. Problem is baby likes using the dogs ear as a chew toy lol and then licks the babies face to stop him from doing so. The dog just can’t help himself from cuddling with the kid. 

[Bad Things]

32 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I bet this one had something to do with that decision. Good call!

”ohhhh, but this puppy is so sweet. Loves our family”. 
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/blood-smeared-on-walls-horror-dog-attack-leaves-family-reeling/news-story/9e1ccc27d53a955c5096be0bb2215831?amp

 

Fun Fact #2: Australia and New Zealand are separate countries. 😄

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

Fun Fact #2: Australia and New Zealand are separate countries. 😄

Since when! 😆🤣

 

[BringBackFergy]

1 hour ago, Bad Things said:

Fun Fact #2: Australia and New Zealand are separate countries. 😄

I know…but you’re all kinda third world, right? 
 

 

 

😆

[ICanSleepWhenI'mDead]

What ever happened to second world countries anyway?  All I ever hear about is the 1st and 3rd ones.

[BringBackFergy]

12 minutes ago, ICanSleepWhenI&#x27;mDead said:

What ever happened to second world countries anyway?  All I ever hear about is the 1st and 3rd ones.

Like Canada? They’re cool. 

[Bad Things]

16 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

I know…but you’re all kinda third world, right? 
 

 

 

😆

Exactly 

[Beck Water]

On 2/25/2024 at 8:38 PM, boyst said:

Pitts can be good dogs. They can be bad dogs. But they're always dangerous. 

 

Our neighbor the animal professional has a bunch of hard-earned words of wisdom.  One of them is "think species first, individual second"

She means, you might have a tiger that you hand-raised from a cub and trained carefully and love and consider a friend, but you better never forget that at its base, it's not a kitty cat, it's a damned tiger and when something triggers it to remember that, Tigers gonna Tiger.

 

They aren't species, but because of intense selective pressure from humans, I think you could say the same thing about different breeds of dog.  Yes, pits and pit mixes can be carefully raised and trained to be loving and affectionate pets, but the owner had better well remember that at its base, it's a dog that was bred to fight other dogs and never give up, and when something triggers it to remember that, that's what you're gonna get.

[LeviF]

Wonder what this infant did to make the gentle giant do such an out of character thing???

[BringBackFergy]

13 hours ago, LeviF said:

Wonder what this infant did to make the gentle giant do such an out of character thing???

There’s no bad dogs…just bad owners. 

[BringBackFergy]

On 3/14/2024 at 10:44 PM, LeviF said:

Wonder what this infant did to make the gentle giant do such an out of character thing???

And, another…

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/1-year-old-boy-killed-in-dog-attack-at-connecticut-home/

[muppy]

well it is clear that there are dogs that kill babies. Is this barrage of daily proof necessary? I feel bullied by your hate of my dogs breed 😗

 

 

Sidenote: The "bullied" reference was an attempt at humor in view of such dire posts above. It is my fail safe. bullies are a breed get it get it? lol

 

Check this out fergy: my new grandbaby is coming to visit her abuelas in socal. Do you think that for even a millisecond I would allow ANY dog around my 8 month old grand daughter after reading this thread.  absolutely NOT. 

 

nor would my son, my dil so that issue for me is personally off the table. 

 

so if you need validation that someone is listening you need no longer I GET IT

 

will this plea help the dead baby killed by pitbulls posts  stop?

 

Film at 11  Lord have Mercy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 16 by muppy

[gobilz]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

well it is clear that there are dogs that kill babies. Is this barrage of daily proof necessary? I feel bullied by your hate of my dogs breed 😗

 

 

Sidenote: The "bullied" reference was an attempt at humor in view of such dire posts above. It is my fail safe. bullies are a breed get it get it? lol

 

Check this out fergy: my new grandbaby is coming to visit her abuelas in socal. Do you think that for even a millisecond I would allow ANY dog around my 8 month old grand daughter after reading this thread.  absolutely NOT. 

 

nor would my son, my dil so that issue for me is personally off the table. 

 

so if you need validation that someone is listening you need no longer I GET IT

 

will this plea help the dead baby killed by pitbulls posts  stop?

 

Film at 11  Lord have Mercy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sigh just sigh 

[Gugny]

4 hours ago, muppy said:

well it is clear that there are dogs that kill babies. Is this barrage of daily proof necessary? I feel bullied by your hate of my dogs breed 😗

 

 

Sidenote: The "bullied" reference was an attempt at humor in view of such dire posts above. It is my fail safe. bullies are a breed get it get it? lol

 

Check this out fergy: my new grandbaby is coming to visit her abuelas in socal. Do you think that for even a millisecond I would allow ANY dog around my 8 month old grand daughter after reading this thread.  absolutely NOT. 

 

nor would my son, my dil so that issue for me is personally off the table. 

 

so if you need validation that someone is listening you need no longer I GET IT

 

will this plea help the dead baby killed by pitbulls posts  stop?

 

Film at 11  Lord have Mercy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why don’t you just stop reading the thread?

[boyst]

3 hours ago, muppy said:

well it is clear that there are dogs that kill babies. Is this barrage of daily proof necessary? I feel bullied by your hate of my dogs breed 😗

 

 

Sidenote: The "bullied" reference was an attempt at humor in view of such dire posts above. It is my fail safe. bullies are a breed get it get it? lol

 

Check this out fergy: my new grandbaby is coming to visit her abuelas in socal. Do you think that for even a millisecond I would allow ANY dog around my 8 month old grand daughter after reading this thread.  absolutely NOT. 

 

nor would my son, my dil so that issue for me is personally off the table. 

 

so if you need validation that someone is listening you need no longer I GET IT

 

will this plea help the dead baby killed by pitbulls posts  stop?

 

Film at 11  Lord have Mercy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pit bulls attack to kill anything other attack. They can't be broken of their grab. It is genetic. They are PIT BULLS. Do folks know what that means? 100-150 years ago these dogs were still used to do one thing.  Go in the pit/chute/corale and bring down a bull. They were trained to attack the bull ring on 2500 animals and bring them down. And they did. Their bite so fierce, so powerful, so determined they'd hang on and sometimes be killed by the bull without letting go.

 

Golden retrievers attack, all breeds attack. Personalities differ. But, go do your own work to see what percent of attacks by non-pit or non rottweiler or other aggressively historic dogs actually kill.

 

Some pitbulls are nice, sure. I'll give you that. But I would trust any dog over 4 lbs around a baby.

 

Some idiot brought her pitbull to the playground where children were playing. The dog was not calm, was quite stressed and showed signs of aggression. The 150 lbs woman holding that 100 lbs dogs full restraint harness couldn't stop that dog from killing anyone there. Yet, dumbass Dorothy brings her pitbull to a children's playground. The problem isn't just the breed. It's the folks who feel entitled to bring their dog "diesel" to the playground but she's not that bad, or the ones who just think everyone else is the problem. I don't think any dog belongs at a children's playground, for the record.

 

so, if you can't have responsible people owning an animal then you shouldn't have a dog capable of killing int he capacity them at pits do. Statistically speaking, it's 25% of all fatal dog bites are pitbulls and I promise that's probably low.

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Why don’t you just stop reading the thread?

Personal responsibility is hard. Being a victim is easy. Poor thing. 

[muppy]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Why don’t you just stop reading the thread?

okay Uncle. Enjoy your baby killed by dogs thread.  I'm out. for good.

 

actually no. ONE last Productive comment. If breeding of pitties is so deadly why not arrest the BREEDERS. The dogs themselves did not ask to be born.

 

WOOF says muppy ADIOS

 

my condolences to the babies  being used as tabloid fodder in this thread