SoMAn Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 18 hours ago, Lost said: We'll be cycling back to cable being cheaper than streaming in a few years. I've said this is the past. Everyone was so proud to 'cut the cord', thinking they were sticking it to the man. I predicted that it will only be a matter of time until the streaming services have everyone in their grasp at which time they'll have the leverage to stick it right back to the customer. They're not there quite yet, but getting closer all the time. Oh, it's so nice to pay $4.99 monthly for Hulu, or Peacock or Paramount. Sure....How long before the monthly fee mirrors the Netflix model, which started out at around 7.99? Now that they have everyone hooked, it's doubled for the same service. Those monthly smart TV app services will shoot up to $9.99/month, UNLESS, for the bargain price you want to purchase it for a full year for the low low price of only $79.99. Of course, you'll need about 4 different services to get all the content you want. Suddenly, you realize you're paying more than you ever did with cable. You'll be longing for the good old days of Directv, cable, and the NFL Sunday Ticket on Directv. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, SoMAn said: I've said this is the past. Everyone was so proud to 'cut the cord', thinking they were sticking it to the man. I predicted that it will only be a matter of time until the streaming services have everyone in their grasp at which time they'll have the leverage to stick it right back to the customer. They're not there quite yet, but getting closer all the time. Oh, it's so nice to pay $4.99 monthly for Hulu, or Peacock or Paramount. Sure....How long before the monthly fee mirrors the Netflix model, which started out at around 7.99? Now that they have everyone hooked, it's doubled for the same service. Those monthly smart TV app services will shoot up to $9.99/month, UNLESS, for the bargain price you want to purchase it for a full year for the low low price of only $79.99. Of course, you'll need about 4 different services to get all the content you want. Suddenly, you realize you're paying more than you ever did with cable. You'll be longing for the good old days of Directv, cable, and the NFL Sunday Ticket on Directv. This new on will start at $40 to $50 a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Innovation = "We want more of your money." They didn't say how much the service will be, but I know exactly how much it'll be to me. $0. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Innovation = "We want more of your money." They didn't say how much the service will be, but I know exactly how much it'll be to me. $0. In a few years you won't be able to watch Bills games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Saw an article the other day, YouTube TV is now the 4th largest "cable/TV Provider" company. Surprisingly, DirecTV is 3rd largest. YouTube TV is the US’s 4th-biggest cable TV provider, with 8 million subs | Ars Technica Edited February 7 by Just Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 No pricing or specifics have been released and most of you are bitching about it, planning boycotts, or burning your TVs. Gotta love TBD's brand of aggressive stupidity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 17 minutes ago, SoMAn said: I've said this is the past. Everyone was so proud to 'cut the cord', thinking they were sticking it to the man. I predicted that it will only be a matter of time until the streaming services have everyone in their grasp at which time they'll have the leverage to stick it right back to the customer. They're not there quite yet, but getting closer all the time. Oh, it's so nice to pay $4.99 monthly for Hulu, or Peacock or Paramount. Sure....How long before the monthly fee mirrors the Netflix model, which started out at around 7.99? Now that they have everyone hooked, it's doubled for the same service. Those monthly smart TV app services will shoot up to $9.99/month, UNLESS, for the bargain price you want to purchase it for a full year for the low low price of only $79.99. Of course, you'll need about 4 different services to get all the content you want. Suddenly, you realize you're paying more than you ever did with cable. You'll be longing for the good old days of Directv, cable, and the NFL Sunday Ticket on Directv. Yep it's coming full circle. The grumpy old men of TSW won't pay for Bills content...........but fortunately they will be able to read about the results and transactions every morning on TSW. "For chrissake the Bills traded Bullfrog! The only guy they got left for 4 eyes Schottenhoffer!". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No pricing or specifics have been released and most of you are bitching about it, planning boycotts, or burning your TVs. Gotta love TBD's brand of aggressive stupidity. https://www.wsj.com/business/media/espn-fox-warner-bros-sports-streaming-service-f2bf96c9?mod=RSSMSN Wells Fargo analyst Steven Cahall projected, based on various assumptions, that the service could break even if around six million subscribers paid $40 a month. Other media insiders and analysts said the cost would likely have to be in the $50 range or higher. I can't see it being any cheaper than that unless they add in an ad tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said: https://www.wsj.com/business/media/espn-fox-warner-bros-sports-streaming-service-f2bf96c9?mod=RSSMSN Wells Fargo analyst Steven Cahall projected, based on various assumptions, that the service could break even if around six million subscribers paid $40 a month. Other media insiders and analysts said the cost would likely have to be in the $50 range or higher. I can't see it being any cheaper than that unless they add in an ad tier. you are very passionate about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, teef said: you are very passionate about this. I am cause I'm excited for it. Access to the majority of sports in one for one cost. The price doesn't bother me as I don't pay for any other subscriptions. We just use the free ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I am not too interested in this, but I the little of what I have looked into it the less I understand exactly what it is going to be and what it will give me that I don't already have. I've been tuning out of watching sports for years. Ironicially, the one 'major' us sport that gets the least major attention (NHL) is the only one that I am watching more (a little more, but not a lot more). As for the Rest, the Bills are really the only NFL team I watch anymore (I haven't evne watched much of the other playoffs and don't know if/how much I will watch of the superbowl). MLB and NBA I hvaen't watched a full game of in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 so which game will be exclusive to this new service next season? We got off easy with Peacock, which cost next to nothing for 1 game. Not so much this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: so which game will be exclusive to this new service next season? We got off easy with Peacock, which cost next to nothing for 1 game. Not so much this time around. The Fox game of the week at 4 on Sunday is probably a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 GET OFF MY LAWN! haha...this is the direction it has been going for a LONG time. It is just getting around to a higher percentage of people. This is how the younger generations are already consuming entertainment. This is a long term shift that has been in the works for a very long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said: In a few years you won't be able to watch Bills games. Completely disagree. As long as there’s a market for the product, there will be an outlet for it Demand will determine pricing and the provider will always charge the maximum amount that will yield the maximum profit. 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yep it's coming full circle. The grumpy old men of TSW won't pay for Bills content...........but fortunately they will be able to read about the results and transactions every morning on TSW. "For chrissake the Bills traded Bullfrog! The only guy they got left for 4 eyes Schottenhoffer!". With all due respect, I have no idea what you just said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Pretty soon we will be paying to see every game because it's all about the money . Unless i'm missing something ? Things such as MNF will be a thing of the past i guess if this streaming thing goes big . Thank god there is WGR . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said: I am cause I'm excited for it. Access to the majority of sports in one for one cost. The price doesn't bother me as I don't pay for any other subscriptions. We just use the free ones. i'm into the streaming as well. i'm someone who still has cable, a few free and a few paid streaming. i have to clean it up because i have a strong feeling i'm paying far more than i need to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 56 minutes ago, SoMAn said: Completely disagree. As long as there’s a market for the product, there will be an outlet for it Demand will determine pricing and the provider will always charge the maximum amount that will yield the maximum profit. With all due respect, I have no idea what you just said What I meant was dinner n a few years you won't be able to watch Bills games for free over the air. Meaning those who don't want to pay for it will lose out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 It's news like this that makes me glad I'm not young any longer. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: It's news like this that makes me glad I'm not young any longer. 😒 This is really than when cable started to get big. All that's happening is home entertainment is changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: This is really than when cable started to get big. All that's happening is home entertainment is changing Yes, changing to make us sports fans pay a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said: What I meant was dinner n a few years you won't be able to watch Bills games for free over the air. Meaning those who don't want to pay for it will lose out. II disagree with that also. The long established networks like CBS, ABC, and NBC and Fox generate HUGE amounts of revenue from advertisers. Also, they use viewership from football games to promote their own primetime shows, which in turn generate more advertising revenue. I don’t see that ever going away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, SoMAn said: II disagree with that also. The long established networks like CBS, ABC, and NBC and Fox generate HUGE amounts of revenue from advertisers. Also, they use viewership from football games to promote their own primetime shows, which in turn generate more advertising revenue. I don’t see that ever going away. I do. I see them heading over to streaming eventually. They did generate huge revenue from advertisers. ABC was down in advertising revenue this past quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: No pricing or specifics have been released and most of you are bitching about it, planning boycotts, or burning your TVs. Gotta love TBD's brand of aggressive stupidity. I'm not sure this grand plan will actually work, or work out. But the notion that streaming services are now trying to resemble cable of yesteryear is is unsettling and worrisome. I suspect that it will be fantastic for the leagues and networks and terrible for the consumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HomeskillitMoorman Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 For me it’s mostly just trying to help one of my old neighbors from Rochester, they live in California now but they’re a really old couple that love watching the Bills and it’s so hard to help them by phone with logging into all the different apps and stuff that happens over a whole season. It should really all be included with Sunday Ticket. The pricing I could handle, it’s the complexity that’s so frustrating for me personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) On 2/7/2024 at 4:34 PM, first_and_ten said: Yes, changing to make us sports fans pay a lot more. Someone has to subsidize the millions who stream illegally! Edited February 26 by Matt_In_NH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I guess I will wait and see what the bundle looks like, what it offers, and what the price point will be. If it is something that gives me a few things I already pay for, and I would have to spend a marginal amount monthly, but I have access to a lot of RSNs and hassle-free sports under 1 roof, I think I will be down with this. Its possible I would turn the service off for various seasons as well depending on what is offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 NFL will still be live on standard network TV. Don't want to stream? don't have to. However, this product will allow you to watch multiple network and pro sports product lines wherever you are on a device. what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 16 hours ago, Jrb1979 said: I do. I see them heading over to streaming eventually. They did generate huge revenue from advertisers. ABC was down in advertising revenue this past quarter. ABC advertising revenue is down because their shows suck & they overpayed for NBA & Monday Night Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 2/7/2024 at 1:42 PM, Jrb1979 said: In a few years you won't be able to watch Bills games. Sure you will, you'll just have to shovel your seat out first 🥶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Sure you will, you'll just have to shovel your seat out first 🥶 I was talking about Bills games continuing to be free on TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: I was talking about Bills games continuing to be free on TV Yeah, that's going to be a thing of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 And I'll still stream them online for free when needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/6/2024 at 10:21 PM, Mr. Wonderful said: There will be a day when all games particularly the Super Bowl will require some type of subscription or PPV fee. Paying monthly fees while having still having commercials is a money making scam. Football is almost tailor made for TV and commercials due to the natural breaks in the game. Certainly it doesn't take 3 minutes to do a punt or kickoff, but commercials in football aren't really that big a deal. So if they broadcast the games, they should make plenty of money. If they restrict their audience, their going to restrict their revenue. I bought the NFL ticket on Youtube this last year but I just cancelled my youtube tv and I'm not getting the nfl package next year. I don't have Prime TV either and didn't see those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Apparently, the principles didn't involve the NFL... https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/top-nfl-execs-reportedly-furious-174721722.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Wouldn’t doubt they make patrons pay x amount per game you want to watch - just like stadium tickets and pay per view like MMA nfl is greed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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