Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) The Bills of course have to take care of business. If they do, they need just 1 of 13 results to go in their favor in order to control their own destiny. Rooting Interests Week 16 ✓ Steelers over Bengals Texans over Browns Falcons over Colts Bucs over Jags Cowboys over Fins Any one of these results occur this week, and if the Bills beat the Chargers, they control their own destiny. Week 17 Raiders over Colts Jets over Browns Ravens over Fins Chiefs over Bengals Panthers over Jags If all 5 games go against the Bills in week 16, then any 1 of these 5 results would allow the Bills to control their own destiny if they beat the Pats. Week 18 Browns over Bengals Texans over Colts Titans over Jags If it comes down to week 18 and all 10 games have gone against the Bills, then just one of these games need to go the Bills way to make the playoffs, coupled with a win over the Fins. Kudos to @ImpactCorey for finding the one path to missing the playoffs at 11-7, which reveals the 13 possible paths for the Bills to control their own destiny. Edited December 24, 2023 by Motorin' 8 5 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I have a strong feeling the ‘Boys are gonna bounce back in a big way over the stinky fish. 13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) The 2 teams that are the biggest issue are the Bengals and the Broncos due to the head to head on us. If we win tonight and next week and the Broncos drop just one game, they can't catch us. And the Bengals have to drop 2 of their next 3. Also would help if the Texans lose 2 of 3 as well. I believe but am not positive that we could have a playoff spot clinched going into week 18 of we win the next 2, The Broncos lose 1, the Bengals and Texans lose both of their games. None of those 3 teams would be able to catch us at that point. I believe this would put us in a game against Miami where we can either win the division with a win or get the 6th or 7th seed with a loss. While possible, is unlikely however and it would be best to just win out. Let's go Bills 14 minutes ago, Motorin' said: The Bills of course have to take care of business. If they do, they need just 1 of 13 results to go in their favor in order to control their own destiny. Rooting Interests Week 16 Steelers over Bengals Texans over Browns Falcons over Colts Bucs over Jags Cowboys over Fins Any one of these results occur this week, and if the Bills beat the Chargers, they control their own destiny. Week 17 Raiders over Colts Jets over Browns Ravens over Fins Chiefs over Bengals Panthers over Jags If all 5 games go against the Bills in week 16, then any 1 of these 5 results would allow the Bills to control their own destiny if they beat the Pats. Week 18 Browns over Bengals Texans over Colts Titans over Jags If it comes down to week 18 and all 10 games have gone against the Bills, then just one of these games need to go the Bills way to make the playoffs, coupled with a win over the Fins. Kudos to @ImpactCorey for finding the one path to missing the playoffs at 11-7, which reveals the 13 possible paths for the Bills to control their own destiny. Why the Texans over Browns? I would much rather have the Texans lose. Knock another team down out of the wild card race. The Browns pretty much have theirs locked up. Also, root for the Jags to win their division. They have the head to head on us Edited December 23, 2023 by Buffalo03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Statistically impossible for us to miss the playoffs if we win out. Not worth spending any time even considering it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Motorin' said: The Bills of course have to take care of business. If they do, they need just 1 of 13 results to go in their favor in order to control their own destiny. Rooting Interests Week 16 Steelers over Bengals Texans over Browns Falcons over Colts Bucs over Jags Cowboys over Fins Any one of these results occur this week, and if the Bills beat the Chargers, they control their own destiny. Truthfully, I see the possibility of a LOT going Buffalo's way this week. I think the Steelers, even with Mason Rudolph have a shot. No Chase this week to bail Browning out. Steelers still have a good defense and always play for Tomlin. Browns SHOULD handle Houston without Stroud. Falcons are a mixed bag. But they are at home and I like their chances. Arthur Smith is terrible, though. Jags have been free falling and Duval Barbie is banged up. Baker and the Bucs played excellent ball last week. Dolphins feeling themselves after squashing the lowly Jets last week, while Dallas is looking to rebound. Dallas isn't great on the road, Miami is better at home but they struggle against good teams. My only worry here is that the Bills just handed Miami a blueprint to win this game with Mosert and Achane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: The 2 teams that are the biggest issue are the Bengals and the Broncos due to the head to head on us. If we win tonight and next week and the Broncos drop just one game, they can't catch us. And the Bengals have to drop 2 of their next 3. Also would help if the Texans lose 2 of 3 as well. I believe but am not positive that we could have a playoff spot clinched going into week 18 of we win the next 2, The Broncos lose 1, the Bengals and Texans lose both of their games. None of those 3 teams would be able to catch us at that point. I believe this would put us in a game against Miami where we can either win the division with a win or get the 6th or 7th seed with a loss. While possible, is unlikely however and it would be best to just win out. Let's go Bills Why the Texans over Browns? I would much rather have the Texans lose. Knock another team down out of the wild card race. The Browns pretty much have theirs locked up. Also, root for the Jags to win their division. They have the head to head on us A Browns loss to the Texans guarantees that the Browns v Bengals matchup will eliminate one of them from getting to 11 wins. And the Texans play the Colts, so one of them will not make it to 11 wins. Also the Broncos are a game back of us, so they are not a threat of the Bills win out. Edited December 23, 2023 by Motorin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: The 2 teams that are the biggest issue are the Bengals and the Broncos due to the head to head on us. If we win tonight and next week and the Broncos drop just one game, they can't catch us. And the Bengals have to drop 2 of their next 3. Also would help if the Texans lose 2 of 3 as well. I believe but am not positive that we could have a playoff spot clinched going into week 18 of we win the next 2, The Broncos lose 1, the Bengals and Texans lose both of their games. None of those 3 teams would be able to catch us at that point. I believe this would put us in a game against Miami where we can either win the division with a win or get the 6th or 7th seed with a loss. While possible, is unlikely however and it would be best to just win out. Let's go Bills Why the Texans over Browns? I would much rather have the Texans lose. Knock another team down out of the wild card race. The Browns pretty much have theirs locked up. Also, root for the Jags to win their division. They have the head to head on us Keep it simple win out and have the Dolphins lose to either Dallas or Baltimore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Motorin' said: A Browns loss to the Texans guarantees that the Browns v Bengals matchup will eliminate one of them from getting to 11 wins. And the Texans play the Colts, so one of them will not make it to 11 wins. Also the Broncos are a game back of us, so they are not a threat of the Bills win out. But you can't automatically think that the Bills are gonna win out. We want the Texans, Bengals and Broncos to lose as much as possible so that a loss to the Dolphins still gets us in a wild card 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Process said: Statistically impossible for us to miss the playoffs if we win out. Not worth spending any time even considering it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line, 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: But you can't automatically think that the Bills are gonna win out. We want the Texans, Bengals and Broncos to lose as much as possible so that a loss to the Dolphins still gets us in a wild card There's probably 6 or 8 different combinations of scenarios where the Bills lose to the Fins and sneak in as a Wild Card. That's a scenario that I'm refusing to think about. I'm on the "take control of our own destiny and don't look back train." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Im not usually the thread police, but wowza we have a lot of threads on this same topic lol. Either way, Go Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Motorin' said: The Bills of course have to take care of business. If they do, they need just 1 of 13 results to go in their favor in order to control their own destiny. Rooting Interests Week 16 Steelers over Bengals Texans over Browns Falcons over Colts Bucs over Jags Cowboys over Fins Any one of these results occur this week, and if the Bills beat the Chargers, they control their own destiny. Week 17 Raiders over Colts Jets over Browns Ravens over Fins Chiefs over Bengals Panthers over Jags If all 5 games go against the Bills in week 16, then any 1 of these 5 results would allow the Bills to control their own destiny if they beat the Pats. Week 18 Browns over Bengals Texans over Colts Titans over Jags If it comes down to week 18 and all 10 games have gone against the Bills, then just one of these games need to go the Bills way to make the playoffs, coupled with a win over the Fins. Kudos to @ImpactCorey for finding the one path to missing the playoffs at 11-7, which reveals the 13 possible paths for the Bills to control their own destiny. I don't agree with Texans over Browns. Texans loss puts us controlling our own destiny this week. Browns does not as they would have to lose another game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Motorin' said: There's probably 6 or 8 different combinations of scenarios where the Bills lose to the Fins and sneak in as a Wild Card. That's a scenario that I'm refusing to think about. I'm on the "take control of our own destiny and don't look back train." There isn't really that many. The Bengals and Broncos have the head to head. They are the biggest problem that stands in our way. We don't want the Texans winning either. Every Texans win makes our chances of getting in with a loss to the Dolphins that much harder. The Texans, Bengals and Broncos need to lose. If we win the next 2 and the Broncos lose one, they can't catch us at all even with a loss to Miami. The Texans and Bengals losing makes it easier as well. I promise you, we don’t want any of these teams winning. If the Texans do win the next 2 let's say and we win the next 2 and lose to Dolphins, you're gonna be sorry you wanted that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Motorin' said: A Browns loss to the Texans guarantees that the Browns v Bengals matchup will eliminate one of them from getting to 11 wins. And the Texans play the Colts, so one of them will not make it to 11 wins. Also the Broncos are a game back of us, so they are not a threat of the Bills win out. But a Texans loss already has us there this week. The rest is moot. ESPN playoff machine is not working for me for some reason anymore. NYT still has us at 99% with a Browns loss but 100% with a Texans loss. Edited December 23, 2023 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I don't agree with Texans over Browns. Texans loss puts us controlling our own destiny this week. I agree with you but @Generic_Bills_Fan made the argument that it doesnt matter either way. Texans loss is 100% controlling our own destiny. Browns loss is 99% controlling our own destiny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) I posted in other thread about scenarios where buffalo could clinch a wildcard spot before week 18 starts. Buffalo WW and assume CLE has 10+ wins thus only one other WC spot team can get to 10 Wins or more 3 of these 4 occur 1. PIT WL 2. CIN LL 3 DEN lose one 4. HOU and IND both lose a game, or JAX LL. Basically a scenario where only the third place team can’t have 10+ wins if CLE LL then a WC spot opens up. If CIN L one then their week 18 meet up only has one team at 10W. In option 4 above, if both happen then that opens up another scenario. BUF can’t get the #1 seed. They lose tiebreakers to BAL by common games record. KC wins a KC, BAL, BUF tie. if BUF gets WC before week 18 and MIA WW then Miami clinches division and BUF probably rests everyone. You run a risk of playing A game and win and then have to repeat it the next weekend of BUF-MIA in playoffs Edited December 23, 2023 by djp14150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line, Except he is not Sicilian but Jewish; in anniversary show (just watched it this week) he tells how role was intended for Danny Devito so was perpetually nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Yes, I’m slightly worried the Bills will regress to their lackluster performances when they face inferior competition like The Chargers and Patriots. We’ll soon find out if those days are behind us or if they’ve turned the corner to play like a championship caliber team. All the ‘what if’s’ of this season are painful. We shouldn’t have to be concerned about ‘needing help’ from other AFC teams. If they blow it against either the bolts or pats, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. I’m not ready to start talking draft 2024. C’mon Bills. Kick some ass. Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Motorin' said: There's probably 6 or 8 different combinations of scenarios where the Bills lose to the Fins and sneak in as a Wild Card. That's a scenario that I'm refusing to think about. I'm on the "take control of our own destiny and don't look back train." there are scenarios where buffalo clinch before week 18 occurs. See my post above. if they need to win and lose there are back door scenarios to get in. IF BUF-MIA game is for division it’s likely on a Saturday night or Sunday night game. Depends if both have clinched or not. If they can back into the playoffs based on other results make this a Saturday game rather than a potrntial winner gets in like thr Indy- Houston game might have. if buffalo clinched WC before MiA they could rest e erroneously if MIA clinched division 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, djp14150 said: I posted in other thread about scenarios where buffalo could clinch a wildcard spot before week 28 starts. Buffalo WW and assume CLE has 10+ wins thus only one other WC spot team can get to 20 Wins or more 3 of these 4 occur 1. PIT WL 2. CIN LL 3 DEN lose one 4. HOU and IND both lose a game, or JAX LL. Basically a scenario where only the third place team can’t have 10+ wins if CLE LL then a WC spot opens up. If CIN L one then their week 18 meet up only has one team at 10W. In option 4 above, if both happen then that opens up another scenario. BUF can’t get the #1 seed. They lose tiebreakers to BAL by common games record. KC wins a KC, BAL, BUF tie. if BUF gets WC before week 18 and MIA WW then Miami clinches division and BUF probably rests everyone. You run a risk of playing A game and win and then have to repeat it the next weekend of BUF-MIA in playoffs Is your "1" key broke or did the NFL add games I am not aware of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Except he is not Sicilian but Jewish; in anniversary show (just watched it this week) he tells how role was intended for Danny Devito so was perpetually nervous. Seen it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I don't agree with Texans over Browns. Texans loss puts us controlling our own destiny this week. Browns does not as they would have to lose another game. It actually doesn't. The Texans can lose this week and the Bengals, Browns and Colts can all make it ahead of the 11-7 Bills. A Browns loss this week means that either the Browns or Bengals will be eliminated from reaching 11-7 when they play each other. And because the Colts play the Texans later, one of them will be eliminated from reaching 11-7. So a Texans victory over the Browns means that only two of the four teams: Browns, Bengals, Colt and Texans can reach 11-7. So if only the Browns lose this week, the Bills control their own destiny. Edited December 23, 2023 by Motorin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: It actually doesn't. The Texans can lose this week and the Bengals, Browns and Colts can all make it ahead of the 11-7 Bills. A Browns loss this week means that either the Browns or Bengals will be eliminated from reaching 11-7. And because the Colts play the Texans later, one of them will be eliminated from reaching 11-7. So a Texans victory over the Browns means that only two of the four teams: Browns, Bengals, Colt and Texans can reach 11-7. So if only the Browns lose this week, the Bills control their own destiny. I do not think that is right. I can't prove it at this point because the playoff machine is bugged on my browser but NYTs has us at 100% this week with a Texans loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I like these threads for the thought experiment, but for me it really comes down to this simple truth: The playoffs have already started. We need to win out all the way through February or basically we're done. If we lose to the Chargers, Pats****, or Fins, we don't deserve to be in the playoffs, and even if we somehow lose one of those and sneak in, we aren't going far if we can't beat those three teams with everything on the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: I do not think that is right. I can't prove it at this point because the playoff machine is bugged on my browser but NYTs has us at 100% this week with a Texans loss. The NY Times has it the exact opposite for me. 99% with a Browns win. 100% with a Texans win. Cause if the Browns won, they can still lose to the Bengals and be 11-7. And the Jags and Colts can win out. So that puts the Bills up against three other teams at 11-7. But if the Browns lose to the Texans, that means it's only possible for one of the Browns or Bengals to get to 11 wins because they play each other. Now assume the Jags win out, the Colts or Texans will eliminate one or the other when they play. So there's only 2 other wild card teams that can get to 11-7 if the Browns lose to the Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: The NY Times has it the exact opposite for me. 99% with a Browns win. 100% with a Texans win. Cause if the Browns won, they can still lose to the Bengals and be 11-7. And the Jags and Colts can win out. So that puts the Bills up against three other teams at 11-7. But if the Browns lose to the Texans, that means it's only possible for one of the Browns or Bengals to get to 11 wins because they play each other. Now assume the Jags win out, the Colts or Texans will eliminate one or the other when they play. So there's only 2 other wild card teams that can get to 11-7 if the Browns lose to the Texans. Weird. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter so not worth arguing about. If the Bills win out, the chances are really small they don't at least get a wild card. I am not a gambler but I am willing to bet the Dolphins will lose at least one of Ravens or Dallas anyways. I really think we win the division if we win out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Weird. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter so not worth arguing about. If the Bills win out, the chances are really small they don't at least get a wild card. I am not a gambler but I am willing to bet the Dolphins will lose at least one of Ravens or Dallas anyways. I really think we win the division if we win out. My favorite scenario is the Bills win out, win the division. Miami goes to KC, Cleveland goes to Baltimore and the Colts come to Buffalo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: The Bills of course have to take care of business. If they do, they need just 1 of 13 results to go in their favor in order to control their own destiny. Rooting Interests Week 16 Steelers over Bengals Texans over Browns Falcons over Colts Bucs over Jags Cowboys over Fins Any one of these results occur this week, and if the Bills beat the Chargers, they control their own destiny. The Browns are 1 game ahead of the Bills at 9-5 and the Texans are tied at 8-6. Does Houston have the tiebreaker over Buffalo, and Buffalo the tiebreaker over Cleveland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Punch said: The Browns are 1 game ahead of the Bills at 9-5 and the Texans are tied at 8-6. Does Houston have the tiebreaker over Buffalo, and Buffalo the tiebreaker over Cleveland? No. But the Browns play the Bengals. And the Texans play the Colts. So only two of those four teams would be able to make it to 11-7 if the Texans beat the Browns. But if the Browns beat the Texans, then 3 teams can make it to 11-7 and eliminate the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, RiotAct said: I have a strong feeling the ‘Boys are gonna bounce back in a big way over the stinky fish. Their 2nd win agenst a team with a winning* record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, Motorin' said: It actually doesn't. The Texans can lose this week and the Bengals, Browns and Colts can all make it ahead of the 11-7 Bills. A Browns loss this week means that either the Browns or Bengals will be eliminated from reaching 11-7 when they play each other. And because the Colts play the Texans later, one of them will be eliminated from reaching 11-7. So a Texans victory over the Browns means that only two of the four teams: Browns, Bengals, Colt and Texans can reach 11-7. So if only the Browns lose this week, the Bills control their own destiny. This is a poor way of looking at it.... You should be thinking, one of two scenarios to get in: 1. Win Division: in this scenario, just need Dolphins to lose 1 of next 2. Then we control our destiny 2. Wild card: IF we lose to Miami, then we want as many teams with 8 losses. Broncos, Colts, Texans, Bengals, Steelers OR Jags (someone wins the South of these 3 teams) In scenario #2, Browns winning helps us. As they have Texans and Cincy. Get Texans to 7 losses AND hopefully a Colts loss before final week. Makes that last game an elimination of one of them. Cincy losing today would be amazing. But I still see them dropping to Chiefs, then need to count on Browns. Broncos have a fairly easy schedule. Pats might be toughest matchup for them, this week. I see them making it in. Colts need an L against Falcons this week, or next week. Steelers are a mess. I'd be shocked they win today, but it's their season on the line. I can't see them beating Ravens last week of season, or the Seahawks next week. I'd count them out. Long story short, root for Browns to knock off the "fringe" teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: The Bills of course have to take care of business. If they do, they need just 1 of 13 results to go in their favor in order to control their own destiny. Rooting Interests Week 16 Steelers over Bengals Texans over Browns Falcons over Colts Bucs over Jags Cowboys over Fins Any one of these results occur this week, and if the Bills beat the Chargers, they control their own destiny. Week 17 Raiders over Colts Jets over Browns Ravens over Fins Chiefs over Bengals Panthers over Jags If all 5 games go against the Bills in week 16, then any 1 of these 5 results would allow the Bills to control their own destiny if they beat the Pats. Week 18 Browns over Bengals Texans over Colts Titans over Jags If it comes down to week 18 and all 10 games have gone against the Bills, then just one of these games need to go the Bills way to make the playoffs, coupled with a win over the Fins. Kudos to @ImpactCorey for finding the one path to missing the playoffs at 11-7, which reveals the 13 possible paths for the Bills to control their own destiny. This confirms what I said in another thread. Of the Bills win out, then a lot more things have to align to keep the Bills out of the playoffs. There are many possible routes to the playoffs, if the Bills win out and only one tortuous route to the Bills missing the playoffs, if the Bills win out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 46 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: This is a poor way of looking at it.... You should be thinking, one of two scenarios to get in: 1. Win Division: in this scenario, just need Dolphins to lose 1 of next 2. Then we control our destiny 2. Wild card: IF we lose to Miami, then we want as many teams with 8 losses. Broncos, Colts, Texans, Bengals, Steelers OR Jags (someone wins the South of these 3 teams) In scenario #2, Browns winning helps us. As they have Texans and Cincy. Get Texans to 7 losses AND hopefully a Colts loss before final week. Makes that last game an elimination of one of them. Cincy losing today would be amazing. But I still see them dropping to Chiefs, then need to count on Browns. Broncos have a fairly easy schedule. Pats might be toughest matchup for them, this week. I see them making it in. Colts need an L against Falcons this week, or next week. Steelers are a mess. I'd be shocked they win today, but it's their season on the line. I can't see them beating Ravens last week of season, or the Seahawks next week. I'd count them out. Long story short, root for Browns to knock off the "fringe" teams. I'm rooting for the Bills to control their own destiny and take a winning streak into the post-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, RiotAct said: I have a strong feeling the ‘Boys are gonna bounce back in a big way over the stinky fish. Yeah I bet the Cowboys come out guns a blazing...lets hope anyway, they STINK up the joint when they're not home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: I do not think that is right. I can't prove it at this point because the playoff machine is bugged on my browser but NYTs has us at 100% this week with a Texans loss. Yea what’s up with the playoff machine? I’ve been trying to do some scenario testing for the past day and it’s been all effed up for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, RiotAct said: I have a strong feeling the ‘Boys are gonna bounce back in a big way over the stinky fish. They’re gonna have less scheme issues against the dolphins imo…dolphins oline is a mess and they don’t have to account for tua running really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I swear these people who keep saying “if X happens then we don’t deserve Y” have self esteem issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 You are my density 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: This is a poor way of looking at it.... You should be thinking, one of two scenarios to get in: 1. Win Division: in this scenario, just need Dolphins to lose 1 of next 2. Then we control our destiny 2. Wild card: IF we lose to Miami, then we want as many teams with 8 losses. Broncos, Colts, Texans, Bengals, Steelers OR Jags (someone wins the South of these 3 teams) In scenario #2, Browns winning helps us. As they have Texans and Cincy. Get Texans to 7 losses AND hopefully a Colts loss before final week. Makes that last game an elimination of one of them. Cincy losing today would be amazing. But I still see them dropping to Chiefs, then need to count on Browns. Broncos have a fairly easy schedule. Pats might be toughest matchup for them, this week. I see them making it in. Colts need an L against Falcons this week, or next week. Steelers are a mess. I'd be shocked they win today, but it's their season on the line. I can't see them beating Ravens last week of season, or the Seahawks next week. I'd count them out. Long story short, root for Browns to knock off the "fringe" teams. If the Bills lose the game against Miami and need a Wildcard spot with a 10-7 record, you are correct about the Browns. In the 10-7 Bills Wildcard scenario, what people are not seeing is the Bills want the Browns to win and take Seed #5. The Bills will not get the 5th seed. Where it gets tricky is finding who needs to win and lose for the Bills to get one of the remaining seeds. That will be clearer after this week's games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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