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A Fitting Sunday Menu for the Bills Season — Kansas City BBQ Burnt Ends


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I was at Arthur Bryant’s in 2008 for the Bills game (we won) and was thinking of attempting to duplicate their Burnt Ends Recipe for Sunday’s game.

 

https://www.arthurbryantsbbq.com/

 

Any tips or suggestions?

 

https://heygrillhey.com/bbq-brisket-burnt-ends/
 

https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/kansas-city-style-burnt-ends-recipe-1920773

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It’s impossible to smoke a good brisket your first time.  Takes a ton of practice to get the feel of it.  it varies by pit but, at least an hour per pound is what mine takes.
 

By far the best method I have found is the foil boat. 

One key is the collect all your fat trimmings and smoke them in a separate pan.  When you wrap it the boat, pour the melted fat all over the brisket and let it soak.

 

 

 

 

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I'm hesitant to add my two cents after all the puke emojis and thumbs down I got in the cheese steak thread, but I learned an awesome recipe out of it so I'll reciprocate here. 

 

Brisket is amazing, of course. But crazy expensive, and it can take a really long time. It's still the king, but the below procedure is a great 2nd place, especially if you don't have a huge crew to feed and don't want to smoke a whole brisket. 

 

A FANTASTIC alternative (and one that we will be making Sunday) is to smoke a good quality thick cut chuck roast. We get our at Wegmans, usually in the 3.5-4 lb range. The biggest one you can find. You don't want small/thin because it could dry out on you before it's really tender. 

 

Season heavily and put into a moderate temperature smoker. The key is to very slowly bring it to 175 (ish) degrees in the smoker, then wrap tightly in foil and put in a 200 degree oven for a couple of hours (or just use the smoker itself as the oven) until juicy and tender. Be sure not to let it go too far to where it becomes like pulled pork (although it will still taste great that way too). We just prefer being able to slice it. 

 

When ready, slice and serve however you enjoy brisket. We love making sandwiches out of it on toasted Costanzo rolls and using homemade BBQ sauce (white or red). 

 

Extremely flavorful, tender, and juicy due to the fat content of chuck roast. 

 

Great for a few people, doesn't take more than 5-6 hours total, and is cheaper than brisket, although not "cheap" per se. 

 

 

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Went to Q39 in KC for Barbecuq when I was there...best Q I ever had...

 

Ironically our waiter was trying to push their new chicken wings on me pretty hard until I laughed and told him I was from Buffalo so that is probably not going to work out too well for him. 😂

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2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Went to Q39 in KC for Barbecuq when I was there...best Q I ever had...

 

Ironically our waiter was trying to push their new chicken wings on me pretty hard until I laughed and told him I was from Buffalo so that is probably not going to work out too well for him. 😂

Smoked chicken wings can actually be really good

 

I would certainly think a top barbecue joint like q39 would know how to smoke chicken wings properly

 

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5 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said:

While in KC this year, we went to Joe’s BBQ (on Food Network and recommended by the locals) had their burnt ends and brisket…I’m still thinking about how delicious it was! 

 

Joe's is a national treasure.  And affordably priced.  

 

I've been to maybe a dozen BBQ places in KC.  My favorite burnt ends were at Q39.  Amazing.  

 

 

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On 12/6/2023 at 7:37 AM, peterpan said:

It’s impossible to smoke a good brisket your first time.  Takes a ton of practice to get the feel of it.  it varies by pit but, at least an hour per pound is what mine takes.
 

By far the best method I have found is the foil boat. 

One key is the collect all your fat trimmings and smoke them in a separate pan.  When you wrap it the boat, pour the melted fat all over the brisket and let it soak.

 

 

 

 

It’s certainly possible, and a lot easier with modern probe technology. Great brisket isn’t gonna happen, but a good brisket can unless the OP is gonna open the smoker obsessively or is trying to do a full brisket on a Weber in a WNY December. I’m sure they’re not trying to pull off 4-6 full briskets on a hog pit. 
 

Easiest way is probably to just separate the flat from the point. Smoke the point. Then pull it, rest it, reset the smoker, and do the burnt ends. 

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15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Smoked chicken wings can actually be really good

 

I would certainly think a top barbecue joint like q39 would know how to smoke chicken wings properly

 

 

Meh...I don't go to KC to get smoked wings.

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5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Meh...I don't go to KC to get smoked wings.

I mean I certainly didn't go to Kansas City just to get smoked chicken wings

 

But I literally bought everything on the menu at Joe's and Q39

 

Rack of ribs brisket pulled pork burnt ends sides... Might as well try it all

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Early yesterday morning I scored the smallest brisket point I could find — 5 & 1/2 lbs — and two huge racks of side ribs both on sale.

 

All rubbed up differently and in the fridge to be flipped every 12 hours prior to throwing them on the electric smoker tomorrow.

 

Normally I use the Big Green Egg to smoke however we have already tarpped it up for the winter and the forecast is for a day of rain and wind tomorrow.  It does have its own shelter but it could be miserable going to check on it even infrequently.

 

The electric smoker is on the raised porch attached to the kitchen sheltered from the rain and wind.

 

Yes, I am made of sugar.

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Got the Beef Brisket on the 2nd lowest rack with the completed two Racks of Pork Side Ribs  on the rack above it and the Pork Breast Bone on the top rack.

 

I have a fancy digital programmed thermometer in the brisket.

 

170F? 

 

I also found a 1 & 1/2 lb Cuttlefish I had in the freezer and thawed it out to put some peanut oil and hot curry powder on it.  Going to put it on the lowest rack hours from now so that it does not drip all over the beef and pork.

 

Time to start drinking

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Since this thread was THE only reason the Bills won the game in KC, rather than starting a new thread I thought I would just recycle this one.

 

No Smoked Burnt Ends, Beef Brisket or Curried Cuttlefish this time for the electric smoker.

 

I have three 3-lb Pork Side Ribs already rubbed, wrapped and in the back of the fridge for Sunday.

 

I appreciate the smoker purists here will scoff at my use of an electric smoker however in weather that will be no better than it will be in Orchard Park on Sunday, I appreciate being able to go through my kitchen back door to my raised and covered cement back porch to check on my electric smoker when the Bluetooth thermometer so tells me rather than hulling my ass out into the cold windy snowy wood smoker.

 

Call me a wimp.

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Generally I really like the idea of menus based on opponent’s regional cuisine, but in this case screw the Chiefs!  Going Buffalo style but since it’s only January there’s still the guilt to try and stick to new year’s resolutions to eat healthier at least. Probably doing this buffalo style salmon which is actually pretty good.

 

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1024774-hot-and-tangy-buffalo-salmon?smid=ck-recipe-iOS-share

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4 hours ago, Kincaid Kool-Aid said:

Generally I really like the idea of menus based on opponent’s regional cuisine, but in this case screw the Chiefs!  Going Buffalo style but since it’s only January there’s still the guilt to try and stick to new year’s resolutions to eat healthier at least. Probably doing this buffalo style salmon which is actually pretty good.

 

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1024774-hot-and-tangy-buffalo-salmon?smid=ck-recipe-iOS-share

Totally agree with this(Except the healthy part)  We are in South Carolina so my smoker will be going, loaded with wings.....also have a few bottles of BarBill Honey Butter BBQ for the faint of heart as well as the standard fare - Hot Buffalo Sauce.  GO BILLS!

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4 hours ago, metbill said:

Totally agree with this(Except the healthy part)  We are in South Carolina so my smoker will be going, loaded with wings.....also have a few bottles of BarBill Honey Butter BBQ for the faint of heart as well as the standard fare - Hot Buffalo Sauce.  GO BILLS!

 

I find bragging about one's warm weather to be so unrefined and simply unbecoming.

 

Just brought the 3 dogs in from the kennel after just a 30 minute outing.

 

Feels like -18C or -1F out there.

 

NOT a side eye or bark from the Basset Hound or Furry Rescue except for the Great Dane who gave me a WTF? look.

 

 

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13 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:


White Chili?

 

That’s new to me.

 

Ground Chicken?

no, i par boil chicken tenders and after they cool i shred them.

 

the rest of the recipe includes chicken stock, great northern beans, onion, garlic, cumin, oregano, cayenne, diced green chilies and diced jalapenos and just before serving you toss in a couple cups of shredded Monterray jack.

 

Google - Cha Cha's white chicken chili ... warning, cut back on some of the heat.

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I kept seeing videos in my YouTube feed of a guy grilling all sorts of creations, then noticed he was a Bills fan. He made this Chicharron today, but I've never tried something like it. Anyone here got any tips?

 

 

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