TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: If all those things are true, I'd guess the league is open to the idea of the Bills finding a way to get him off the roster without massive cap damage and will be happy to have him no longer affiliated with the NFL in any way. Likely permanently. Definitely, we know if he’s suspended under the PCP and we release him, we are off the books for 2024’s guarantees. I wonder if it also voids ALL of his guarantee? I believe his 2025+ dead cap is 15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 The bye week was not kind to Von Miller. He can’t get around the edge to save his life but he can grab a pregnant woman by the throat and hair. What a scum. See ya Von. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Strange that they gave the address. There is only one residential building on that block. I now know that Von Miller has/had a condo in the Bleu Ciel complex: https://bleucielliving.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Best case scenario for him is he is released by the Bills who eat his contract. Nope, we won’t have to eat it if the contract is written properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: So you've never flown home the night before a day off after work? Tuesday night flight after work. Not the point. But hey, when we come out of the gates and kick the crap out of KC next Sunday it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: Beane didn’t hire McD and no way is he the problem. Yes, we need some new, younger talent especially at safety, but overall the GM has done a damn good job. Beane signed Von Miller to an insane guaranteed contract. Thats enough to get him fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Meatloaf63 said: Nope, we won’t have to eat it if the contract is written properly. Best case for Miller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, par73 said: This whole season has been a huge letdown. TRUTH! Highest expectation, lowest return yet. 4 losses that are inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: They found bruises on her ABDOMEN. A pregnant woman. Also bruises on her neck and minor abrasions on her hand. Innocent until proven guilty, but what is the best case scenario for Von given those facts? Really, there is no best case scenario for him if all that is accurate. Maybe best case for him is he avoids doing any time in jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, wppete said: Beane signed Von Miller to an insane guaranteed contract. Thats enough to get him fired. Is deal was on par with other pass-rush specialists of that age range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Best case for Miller. Missed that, trying to read at work LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: So you want to be the ONLY team in the NFL to have players practice on bye weeks. This is what you want our team to separate themselves from everyone else...practicing on bye weeks? Bye weeks are there to help your bodies and mental health to heal up because it is a very hard contact and mentally grueling sport....it seems you want them to reduce that time. Football season is played during the school year and many of these guys don't get to see their families or their kids play a sport. A Baltimore Ravens player kid played on my kids football last year. The only game he came to was on his bye week. For $120M/season? I expect a little bit more than from someone that works at Topps making $32k. But what, Thursday thru Sunday isn't long enough? But hey, since our defense has earned it ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Meatloaf63 said: Missed that, trying to read at work LOL I get it 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: Really, there is no best case scenario for him if all that is accurate. Maybe best case for him is he avoids doing any time in jail? $$$$$$$$$ if she doesnt testify the charges will be dropped...... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Police allege in the court document that the argument, which started over upcoming travel plans, began about 10:40 a.m. in the main bedroom of their apartment. The woman then went into their home office and slammed the door, which the affidavit says made Miller “visibly angry.” Miller then walked into the office and yelled at the woman to “get out,” the affidavit says. The woman tried to comply, but wanted time to retrieve some of her belongings, such as her laptop and phones. As she was grabbing them, the affidavit says Miller shoved and pushed her. The woman repeatedly yelled “Stop, I’m pregnant.” Miller continued to push the woman as he stepped on her feet, which caused her to fall back into a chair, the affidavit says. He then put a hand on her neck and applied pressure for 3 to 5 seconds, according to the affidavit, which police say caused pain but not difficulty breathing. As she continued to try to gather her belongings, Miller grabbed her phone, threw her laptop on the floor and stomped on it, the affidavit says. As she tried to pick up her laptop, Miller yanked her hair, pulling a chunk of it out and causing her to collapse, the affidavit says. She got up and began to record Miller on her phone, which she put in her pocket, police wrote in the affidavit. The affidavit says Miller once again grabbed the woman again, pushed her onto a couch, wrapped both hands around her neck and applied pressure. The woman told Miller she was calling police, which prompted him to leave the apartment, the affidavit says. Police responded to the apartment condominium and saw the woman had “minor abrasions” on her left hand, as well as bruising on her abdomen, left bicep and neck that was “consistent with applied pressure,” the affidavit says. The woman showed police a recording where Miller could be heard in the background yelling and telling her to get out, according to the affidavit. In her 911 call, she also identified herself and Miller, the affidavit says. With all of this info, and a recording of at least part of the incident in hand, that's a wrap for Von. His playing career is almost certainly done. And when he gets suspended, the Bills will be able to get out of the situation relatively unscathed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Damn, Vonnie choking on the field and women off the field. A sad day for the woman, but a great day for the Bills to get some money back. Thanks Vonnie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I recall a story about a former paramour blackmailing him with a sex tape when he was Bronco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Simon said: You, on the other hand, extoll the virtues of natural healthy foods but eat PBJs and Spaghetti-Os when your wife isn't around, shake paint cans manually even though you know deep down it doesn't work but still do it because it's fun, and very much want to give Von Miller the same due process you give others but just hate him too f'ing much to truly pull it off. fairly accurate. but i actually hope he is innocent and this is just some nonsense drama and it will get sorted out quickly. my personal feelings of a guy i know nothing of first person personally is about as deep as a north carolina blizzard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Really, there is no best case scenario for him if all that is accurate. Maybe best case for him is he avoids doing any time in jail? Sure there is, if the case is dropped but Bills release him given the sworn statements, we eat the contract and he still gets paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, wppete said: Beane signed Von Miller to an insane guaranteed contract. Thats enough to get him fired. No, it’s not. If you want to make an argument to fire Beane, it’s that we signed Von … then restructured him… and signed him because of a miss on Basham and the high ceiling/long development strategy of Rousseau. However, given his recent drafting record, he should be safe, imo. Also, we don’t know what McDermott advocates for to Beane & Pegula. If McDermott wanted Hopkins over Floyd & Poyer, would Beane have gotten D-Hop? I don’t think Beane is the defense first guy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Oh wow, just read bruises on her stomach and pregnant? What a pos if true 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: Damn, Vonnie choking on the field and women off the field. A sad day for the woman, but a great day for the Bills to get some money back. Thanks Vonnie Uhhh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: So Beane is going to hire the bounty hunter, that is good news because he looks done both on the field and off If it all turns out to be true and it comes to that, at least you know he won't be zig zagging away however he's running it's in a straight line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said: $$$$$$$$$ if she doesnt testify the charges will be dropped...... Doesn’t mean the league can’t still suspend him tho. And that might be enough to get out from under him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Uhhh No, not my problem that a Bills player went crazy 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: Oh wow, just read bruises on her stomach and pregnant? What a pos if true For sure, that’s a sworn statement too. So like, legal issues if the medical staff lied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Simon said: If all those things are true, I'd guess the league is open to the idea of the Bills finding a way to get him off the roster without massive cap damage and will be happy to have him no longer affiliated with the NFL in any way. Likely permanently. the nfl will do all it can to avoid a ray rice issue - so if they can do this and completely wipe him from the nfl going forward - including removing him from the payroll - i think they want that. the nflpa is going to be up against itself in figuring out their end of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: No, not my problem that a Bills player went crazy I know but someone is going to read that and twist your words lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just great. If not showing up for 1/2 the year wasn’t enough, I’m gonna have to change some of my passwords with his number in it. I guess it’s best to keep with 12 83 34 or 78, or an occasional 67 58 or 97. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Highly doubting Von actually gets in any legal trouble. I'd guess some sort of settlement, maybe even an under the table settlement, is on its way. Not sure what that means for his cap hit but it's probably not great. If any of this is true, I hope the woman and her baby get the protection and peace that they deserve. And I hope Von never has any type of role in the NFL ever again (front office included) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I know but someone is going to read that and twist your words lol I don't care lol. 🤷 I said what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: I don't care lol. 🤷 I said what I said. Bahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, boyst said: the nfl will do all it can to avoid a ray rice issue - so if they can do this and completely wipe him from the nfl going forward - including removing him from the payroll - i think they want that. the nflpa is going to be up against itself in figuring out their end of this Yea… this isn’t random second string LB on the Arizona Cardinals. This is a household name on a team with one of the league’s biggest stars. I highly doubt, if this is as bad as it sounds, the NFL wants the Bills to have any financial reason to be worried about cutting a guy who would otherwise be featured on every broadcast as people tune in to watch Josh Allen. Edited November 30, 2023 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I’ll wait to hear more before I make any judgements. Been burned too many times in these types of things. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdo67 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: No, not my problem that a Bills player went crazy I personally do blame you, and with good cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Here's the more specific allegations: Gotta wait for more facts to come out. But there are bruises and abrasions on a pregnant woman. I don't really see how even the best case scenario here could be anything less than damning for Von Miller. Yeah the evidence of superficial injuries can and may seem damming, but I can’t help from going straight to the video on YouTube of the woman in a apartment complex accusing her spouse of assault but failing to realize inside the building’s elevator are security cameras where she was caught inflicting the injuries onto herself. Guess we’ll see where this goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan777 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) The buffalobills should release von miller immediately he guilty yes I can judge before the facts came out just like the buffalobills did on Azria releasing before the facts came out von miller is a distraction Edited November 30, 2023 by Billsfan777 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 For those unwilling to read anything other than the OP, this is the latest info: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Billsfan777 said: The buffalobills should release von miller immediately he guilty yes I can judge before the facts came out hust like the buffalobills did on Azria 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Billsfan777 said: The buffalobills should release von miller immediately he guilty yes I can judge before the facts came out hust like the buffalobills did on Azria This seems legit, right along with the 10 posts and typos 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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