Jauronimo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 hours ago, NoSaint said: someone worse also wont win a super bowl someone better could such is life, you have to take a swing In this case better is a pretty high bar if wins and losses are the criteria for measurement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I’m fine with moving on from McD, but there better be a plan as to his replacement when he’s canned. We don’t have time for someone to learn on the job. I’d even be fine with bringing McD back next year if the preferred replacement is currently unavailable, with the idea that McD hires a DC, lets the OC (probably Brady, at this point) do his thing, and simply is the HC. none of that will happen McDermott will dig in even more with his over management style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Neo said: The “some reason” for Tomlin is a super bowl victory (youngest coach ever), a .636 winning percentage (11th best in NFL history) in 16 seasons. Since joining the Steelers in 2007, he has led the team to ten playoff runs, seven division titles, three AFC Championship Games, two Super Bowl appearances, and a title in Super Bowl XLIII. Just sayin’ … there are a lot of coaches you can link to your legitimate question. I’m not sure Tomlin’s one of them. His defense doesn't fold at the end of games very often. Sometimes, but most of the time they win it...especially this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He's going to get fired if the Bills miss the playoffs. Sal has turned, which means the organization has turned. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: none of that will happen McDermott will dig in even more with his over management style Not if Pegula tells him it's not happening. It's hard for me not to think McD taking on more with the DC role on top of being HC hasn't led to SOME of what we are seeing this year. Seems very coincidental that it would happen in the same year as that when we were 10-6, 13-3, 11-6 and 13-3 the 4 years prior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: none of that will happen McDermott will dig in even more with his over management style That assumes he has a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 53 minutes ago, pocoboy said: The best cliche analogy I can come up with when it comes to McDermott and a big game is "bringing a knife to a gunfight." Do keep us updated if you come up with a better cliche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Feels like a lindy ruff type of situation. NFL has an accelerated timeline with fewer games and such - but i don't know how you can walk away from this season thinking this is the guy getting us over the hump. If he can drag this team into the playoffs - its tough not to give him another year. When your #1 LB, CB, DT are all out for the year, and your #1 pass rusher is a ghost - its really hard to have something resembling a competent defense, let alone a leading unit. End of the day - there were issues offensively early on, they got worse as the season went on and we probably waited too long to move on from dorsey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 hours ago, PBF81 said: In fairness to Pegula, Allen wasn't on the team back then. We were struggling to find a QB, and going with someone focused on D was not necessarily a bad move. I'd question why McD, but otherwise it was a different situation. Now we know what we have Allen, and the next coach should be carefully interviewed to see what they'd do with Allen and the offense, not a defense that keeps choking in the biggest of situations. What is Pegula's fault and what was stupid and unwise, was extending McBeane without first seeing how at least the first half of this season played out. From a fan perspective the nice thing about that is that it doesn't impact the cap, it's purely money out of Pegula's pocket, which frankly, he deserves for being stupid enough to extend McBeane when there was no need to before seeing how our first half played out. Certainly having a QB of Allen's capability, makes the range of error much larger in who you might choose, though that's kind of what we have now too. McD has made the playoffs and had a significant winning record in 5 of the 6 (maybe 7) years he's been here Certainly would go for an offensive minded coach, person may be great with the X's and O's but doesn't always translate to being a good HC. So there is still a risk. The other question then is who's going to do the interviewing. Assuming Pegula keeps Beane, likely would fall on him. In fairness to him, he's never hired a HC before, likely never even interviewed one. Maybe he participated in the process when the Panthers fired Rivera and hired the next guy?? If you also axed Beane, makes it even tougher. Makes it tricky and a crap shoot to some level on who you hire. I suppose Pegula could talk to his good buddy JJ for advise. Also have to wonder a bit if Pegula's major focus these days is taking care of his wife and may not want to deal with any of this and keep McD around for another year with promises from him of major staff and roster changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, KHAN said: I'm fine with that. Pegula has to sign off on it, but Beane will find the coach. I don’t see any way you fire McDermott and not Bean Edited November 27, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: He's going to get fired if the Bills miss the playoffs. Sal has turned, which means the organization has turned. Did he say something on WGR? I’m at work, can’t listen today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: In this case better is a pretty high bar if wins and losses are the criteria for measurement. how about playoff wins and losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: He's going to get fired if the Bills miss the playoffs. Sal has turned, which means the organization has turned. The messaging coming from OBD has 100% shifted and it is noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 hours ago, Hsker4life said: He’s got to go. He is a defensive guy and his defense has choked at the biggest moments. His decision to kneel the ball with 20 seconds and 1 timeout (should have been 2) is how he’s coached his entire time year. Great culture guy, lousy manager. Could have been 3 timeouts if it wasn’t for his stupid defensive timeouts that never work. He gave up a first down after using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 44 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Since Bill Cowher and Dick Lebeau's players left he doesn't have much of a resume to boast. He looks like most other teams and coaches. Makes the playoffs sometimes and pretty much loses. He even has a win over the bengals he had no right to win in the playoffs which makes his last 10 years not that great. Right …… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I don’t have time to read 16 pages this morning, is there any additional talk/rumors of him being fired or is this just 16 pages talking about the topic off that first tweet in the OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, corta765 said: The messaging coming from OBD has 100% shifted and it is noticeable. For those of us who cannot stomach listening to WGR, could you give a synopsis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, NoSaint said: how about playoff wins and losses? Also a tough metric to improve on unless Andy Reid gets fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t have time to read 16 pages this morning, is there any additional talk/rumors of him being fired or is this just 16 pages talking about the topic off that first tweet in the OP? No there isn't, at least not that I've seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: He's going to get fired if the Bills miss the playoffs. Sal has turned, which means the organization has turned. This is true. Sal’s a pretty big homer, he must know they’re turning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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