CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, gobills404 said: And he also lost 2 conference championships. Good point. His chokes are way more heartbreaking than McDingleberry’s. Glad we agree on that. Well if that's the criteria then Levy's "chokes" were way more heartbreaking then both of them. And man what I wouldn't give to go through four more years of SB chokes versus this crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I have a nervous feeling that Pegula is going to offer Belichick the keys. Yeah, it needs to be another up-and-comer. Not a retread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, The Red King said: We know what we're getting out of McD. A guy that can't get it done at the end of close games. He is good at what he did, making bad teams relevant again. If I were a struggling team I'd take him as my HC in a heartbeat. He took a dumpster fire of a pro football franchise that missed the last seventeen playoffs, cleaned up the culture and got them winning. I recognize and respect all of that. He is not, IMHO, a terrible coach. But he seems prone to choking away close games with some very questionable decisions. And while that is a coach that can get you a good number of wins, it is not a coach that can win it all, b/c to do so you need to win 3-4 postseason games in a row. At least one is going to be close, and he is going to collapse at the end. In a way, 13 seconds keeps happening to us, even today, just not in quite drastic a fashion. I thought he told Pegs that the 13 seconds weren’t gonna happen again It’s been happening a lot this season. It seems to me our GM should get on McDermott because his coaching staff sure isn’t. He has a history of laying down at the end of games. Somebody should save McDermott from himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Well if that's the criteria then Levy's "chokes" were way more heartbreaking then both of them. Correct, his chokes were worse. MUCH worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, gobills404 said: Correct, his chokes were worse. MUCH worse. And I would prefer the chokes to occur in the Super Bowl then divisional playoff games and now during the regular season. Give me FIVE straight Super Bowl losses over just ONE "13 seconds". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I’m on the fence about it… Part of me wants him gone and then the other part of me says do you wanna go through 2 years of a rebuild… A new coach will want to bring in players to fit his scheme which means possibly dismantling half the roster we already have… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: And I would prefer the chokes to occur in the Super Bowl then divisional playoff games and now during the regular season. Give me FIVE straight Super Bowl losses over just ONE "13 seconds". Good for you? I’d prefer a super bow ring over either of those outcomes. To each their own, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Bimmer323i said: I’m on the fence about it… Part of me wants him gone and then the other part of me says do you wanna go through 2 years of a rebuild… A new coach will want to bring in players to fit his scheme which means possibly dismantling half the roster we already have… Our defense is so much Sean McDermott that it might take longer to rebuild. The offense would be easy to build around Josh but the defense would be a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preds Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Our defense is so much Sean McDermott that it might take longer to rebuild. The offense would be easy to build around Josh but the defense would be a disaster. It's already a disaster when things matter the most. FIRE McDummy and let the defense suck for all I care. OUTSCORE the fricken opponent with your future HOF QB by surrounding him with legit WRs to compliment Diggs and Kincaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Our defense is so much Sean McDermott that it might take longer to rebuild. The offense would be easy to build around Josh but the defense would be a disaster. Yea your right…. I say give McDermott one more year try and bring in a few more weapons for Josh and if he fails next year then give him the axe…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Good for you? I’d prefer a super bow ring over either of those outcomes. To each their own, I guess. Moving the goal posts around are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preds Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Bimmer323i said: Yea your right…. I say give McDermott one more year try and bring in a few more weapons for Josh and if he fails next year then give him the axe…. And delay the badly necessary reset while burning another year of Josh's prime, yeah, that's the right move to protect McDummy's precious defense. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Preds said: It's already a disaster when things matter the most. FIRE McDummy and let the defense suck for all I care. OUTSCORE the fricken opponent with your future HOF QB by surrounding him with legit WRs to compliment Diggs and Kincaid. I hear and completely agree with everyone and there frustrations but there’s no garuntee a different coach will do any better… it could be worse then we’d all be wishing they gave McDermott another year… *uck idk this is so gosh damn frustrating… I’m almost as disgusted with this game as I was the 13 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Moving the goal posts around are we? Not at all. You and others are trying to say why you would prefer Harbaugh (and now Levy) over McD. My point the whole time has been that they’re both chokers and I would prefer neither of them. Please try to keep up. Edited November 27, 2023 by gobills404 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bimmer323i said: I’m on the fence about it… Part of me wants him gone and then the other part of me says do you wanna go through 2 years of a rebuild… A new coach will want to bring in players to fit his scheme which means possibly dismantling half the roster we already have… This is why its the perfect year. The team is in a retool/reload year next season anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The offense would be easy to build around Josh but the defense would be a disaster. That rebuild is coming no matter what. Hyde and Poyer are done. Von is done. White is probably done. Our foundational pieces are Rousseau, Oliver, Bernard, and to some extent Benford. So now is actually the perfect time to bring in a new coach so he can manage that rebuild himself. Delaying it another year only makes it worse. 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, gobills404 said: Not at all. You and others are trying to say why you prefer Harbaugh (and now Levy) over McD. My point the whole time has been that they’re both chokers and I would prefer either of them. Please try to keep up. And what idiot wouldn't favor Levy or Harbaugh over McD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preds Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Bimmer323i said: I hear and completely agree with everyone and there frustrations but there’s no garuntee a different coach will do any better… it could be worse then we’d all be wishing they gave McDermott another year… *uck idk this is so gosh damn frustrating… I’m almost as disgusted with this game as I was the 13 seconds When it's crystal clear that your coach isn't good enough, and your wasting way a HOF talent at QB as a result, you MUST move on. Yes the next coach may fail, or they just may succeed. Sticking with a failed coach that clearly isn't good enough, because you fear failure from picking the wrong new coach, is just guaranteeing future failure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Preds said: It's already a disaster when things matter the most. FIRE McDummy and let the defense suck for all I care. OUTSCORE the fricken opponent with your future HOF QB by surrounding him with legit WRs to compliment Diggs and Kincaid. I think it’s mostly the defensive players that blow it. Look at the games we blow at the end and you’ll see Poyer, Hyde, White or Milano getting beat. Our best players don’t make plays in crunch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Why keep McD? Honest question. Ask yourself this, and be honest. Can you see McD winning the SB next year? Do you honestly think he can do it, if given another chance? I don't. I have zero faith in him doing that, and that is the goal. Yes, a new coach may not be any better, may even be worse, but if they give us an actul chance to win it all, I will roll the dice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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