Week 12: Buffalo Bills vs Philadelphia Eagles

[SoonerBillsFan]

31 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

It sucks that petty tyrants who care more about winning than anything, even the rules, often end up winning. Belichick comes to mind here too. 

Because in the end winning is all that matters in Football,esp pro ball

[MikePJ76]

The eagles released Derek Barnett and that may be to make a roster spot for Leonard.  Obviously doesn't affect sunday but just saying.

[Ray Stonada]

We faced Swift last year and didn’t have too much trouble with him.

 

We also have a good record of containing top WRs, excluding Justin Jefferson. 

[Magox]

14 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

We faced Swift last year and didn’t have too much trouble with him.

 

We also have a good record of containing top WRs, excluding Justin Jefferson. 

 

Douglas and Benford are the right kind of larger, disciplined and more physical type DB's to match up well against Brown.   I like that matchup.

[Blank Stare]

1 hour ago, Blank Stare said:

Oh I totally figure I’ll be in the minority on this. I don’t love McD’s coaching and depth chart management, but he’s way more of a respectable man than the man-child Sirianni is. I know wins are all that really matters in this thing, but I just can’t stand Sirianni. 

 

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

LOL, feel better now?   Out of curiosity, what's the answer to him, suggesting, pretty much insisting, that those types of plays occur on a regular basis?  
 

You tell me.  LOL 

 

And seriously, without those, how was it a prolific offensive performance?  

 

Either those types of plays that handed us 17 points are common and can be game-planned, or they cannot.  Which is it in your view?  

 

So you too then are implying that we can count on deep passing TDs once a game, and STs/D setting us up for 10 points per game, all for 17 points total?  

 

Instead of ad hominem, how about actually contributing to the substance of the discussion?   

 

If you simply want to vent your emotions, say so.  

 

 

 

Come on bro. You been pretty aggressive in this thread.  You know there is more than one way to win a game and every game is different.  Like, I don't like our chances all that much but if our team shows up and plays how they can play, they can win this game.  It's just their execution has been piss poor most of the year.

[Dillenger4]

10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Come on bro. You been pretty aggressive in this thread.  You know there is more than one way to win a game and every game is different.  Like, I don't like our chances all that much but if our team shows up and plays how they can play, they can win this game.  It's just their execution has been piss poor most of the year.

It's a troll. Don't waste your time. I'd say an 11 year old girl from Sri Lanka at best is who u are dealing with.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

Then there's that.  But how do we know that the script doesn't favor us, or the Eagles losing?  I guess we'll find out.  LOL  

 

Still, they've averaged 32 PPG at home, and against a few great defenses too.  Ours is overrated.  

 

Dallas was their worst game several weeks ago, and they still put up 28 points against their fairly consistent D.  

 

The Over is 48.5 which appears to be a gimme.  

 

 

 

Pats - 25

Bucs - 25

Rams -23

Jets - 14

Chiefs - 21

 

Thats half their games.  They play the games for a reason man.  You can't stat simulate this.  Did anyone expect their sole loss so far would be to a Zach Wilson lead Jets?  Stuff happens.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Scott7975

[PBF81]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Come on bro. You been pretty aggressive in this thread.  You know there is more than one way to win a game and every game is different. 

 

That's the entire point.  

 

But putting up the Jets game as "we're back" under Brady is taking some serious liberties.  That's all that was said.  I have no idea why you and others are taking issue with it.  

 

Again, getting set-up twice by STs & D and having the longest pass play of the season is hardly any indication that offensively this team is retracked.  

 

Would love for it to be, but that's hardly an indication that it is.  

 

Once again, live by big-plays, die by big-plays, and we do.  

 

 

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Like, I don't like our chances all that much but if our team shows up and plays how they can play, they can win this game.  It's just their execution has been piss poor most of the year.

 

It has been piss poor most of the year.   And it was better in the Jets game, but nowhere near "the offense put up 32 via conventional means" good either.  

 

I have no idea which team is going to show up on Sunday.   Only a fool would bet on that, and an even bigger fool would bet that we win that one.  

 

Hoping is one thing.  I can hope the rest of my hair out but it doesn't matter what I or anyone else hopes for.  We're either talking about realities or we're not.  

 

It seems that a word of caution as to our good but far from great offensive performance in the Jets game would be wise.  

 

Think differently, great.  But it can't come down to laugh and eye-rolling emojis.  There's been little substance arguing the opposite other than simply "32 points."  

 

Honestly, why is anyone taking issue with that?   

 

Let's put it another way, suppose we go to Philly and all we do is what we did w/o those D/STs set-ups and a long pass, none of which are odds-on to occur.  Anyone thinking differently should go look at the prop bets.  Anyway, if all we do is what we did otherwise, IMO we're in trouble and will be lucky to hit 21.  

 

And who knows, maybe Philly will turn the ball over more than twice, like the only time that they did six weeks ago.  Heck, maybe they'll turn it over 6 times.  I don't have a crystal ball.  But if they don't, and if we don't get another deep pass for a GD, and only play as well as we played offensively vs. the Jets without getting handed a FG already within FG range, and field position a few yards shy of their red zone for one of the other two TDs our offense got, I'd suggest that we're in trouble.  

 

But to agree with you, yes, our execution has been piss poor, but not all of that has been on the offense either.  Much of it befalls McD, who at last check is still our HC.  

 

Why is it so much of a reach for people to see that we got a ton of breaks in the Jets game that don't happen very often for any team, not just ours.  I don't get it.  

 

That's all I've been discussing.  Aggressive or not,and I don't mean it to be, I respond to comments made to me out of courtesy.  I have zero control if people comment midstream without looking at the basis for the discussion, nor do I have any control over whether or not they go off emotionally or rationally contribute something besides superficial semi-mindless narrative.  That's on them one way or another.  

 

BTW, if Brown doesn't start, I like our chances a lot.  If he does, not so much.  

 

 

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Pats - 25

Bucs - 25

Rams -23

Jets - 14

Chiefs - 21

 

Thats half their games.  They play the games for a reason man.  You can't stat simulate this.  Did anyone expect their sole loss so far would be to a Zach Wilson lead Jets?  Stuff happens.

 

That's why I've been quoting their HOME games.  

 

Dallas 28 

Miami 31 

Washington 34 

Minnesota 34  

 

The last time I looked we weren't playing them in NE, Tampa, LA, New Jersey, KC, or Buffalo.  We're set to play them in Philly.  

 

If you think that good comps are ROAD games, great.  Not seeing it, but to each his own.  I'm not going to hammer you and aggressively try to beat you down.  

 

 

7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Pats - 25

Bucs - 25

Rams -23

Jets - 14

Chiefs - 21

 

Thats half their games.  They play the games for a reason man.  You can't stat simulate this.  Did anyone expect their sole loss so far would be to a Zach Wilson lead Jets?  Stuff happens.

 

That's why I've been quoting their HOME games.  

 

Dallas 28 

Miami 31 

Washington 34 

Minnesota 34  

 

The last time I looked we weren't playing them in NE, Tampa, LA, New Jersey, KC, or Buffalo.  We're set to play them in Philly.  

 

If you think that good comps are ROAD games, great.  Not seeing it, but to each his own.  I'm not going to hammer you and aggressively try to beat you down.  

 

If we do lose because we can't score more than the low 20s, I'll be curious as to what everyone says about Brady's offense.  It'll be quite interesting on the heels of last week's game to be sure.  

 

 

[wppete]

I think it’s time we bench him , especially for Sundays game against Philly. Give more reps to Epanesa and Rousseau . Von is not himself anymore and hurting the team out there.  
 

 

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

That's the entire point.  

 

But putting up the Jets game as "we're back" under Brady is taking some serious liberties.  That's all that was said.  I have no idea why you and others are taking issue with it.  

 

Again, getting set-up twice by STs & D and having the longest pass play of the season is hardly any indication that offensively this team is retracked.  

 

Would love for it to be, but that's hardly an indication that it is.  

 

Once again, live by big-plays, die by big-plays, and we do.  

 

I'm not saying we are back but sometimes it just takes a spark and we had some sparks.  Now lets see if it continues.  Every other top team has gotten that benefit and yes we have been a top team for a few years.

 

Yes, it's a team sport.  They got set up by some stuff.  Thats what happens in a football game.

 

It's an indication that they can do it.  Not an indication yet that they will be consistent in doing it.

 

This isn't living and dying by the big play

 

 

Thats just the passing.  We also ran the ball 36 times but I'm not pulling charts of all the runs too.

 

9 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

It has been piss poor most of the year.   And it was better in the Jets game, but nowhere near "the offense put up 32 via conventional means" good either.  

 

I have no idea which team is going to show up on Sunday.   Only a fool would bet on that, and an even bigger fool would bet that we win that one.  

 

Hoping is one thing.  I can hope the rest of my hair out but it doesn't matter what I or anyone else hopes for.  We're either talking about realities or we're not.  

 

It seems that a word of caution as to our good but far from great offensive performance in the Jets game would be wise.  

 

Think differently, great.  But it can't come down to laugh and eye-rolling emojis.  There's been little substance arguing the opposite other than simply "32 points."  

 

Honestly, why is anyone taking issue with that?   

 

Let's put it another way, suppose we go to Philly and all we do is what we did w/o those D/STs set-ups and a long pass, none of which are odds-on to occur.  Anyone thinking differently should go look at the prop bets.  Anyway, if all we do is what we did otherwise, IMO we're in trouble and will be lucky to hit 21.  

 

And who knows, maybe Philly will turn the ball over more than twice, like the only time that they did six weeks ago.  Heck, maybe they'll turn it over 6 times.  I don't have a crystal ball.  But if they don't, and if we don't get another deep pass for a GD, and only play as well as we played offensively vs. the Jets without getting handed a FG already within FG range, and field position a few yards shy of their red zone for one of the other two TDs our offense got, I'd suggest that we're in trouble.  

 

But to agree with you, yes, our execution has been piss poor, but not all of that has been on the offense either.  Much of it befalls McD, who at last check is still our HC.  

 

Why is it so much of a reach for people to see that we got a ton of breaks in the Jets game that don't happen very often for any team, not just ours.  I don't get it.  

 

That's all I've been discussing.  Aggressive or not,and I don't mean it to be, I respond to comments made to me out of courtesy.  I have zero control if people comment midstream without looking at the basis for the discussion, nor do I have any control over whether or not they go off emotionally or rationally contribute something besides superficial semi-mindless narrative.  That's on them one way or another.  

 

BTW, if Brown doesn't start, I like our chances a lot.  If he does, not so much.  

 

Honestly, I don't wanna argue with all that.  I've said the same stuff... execution been piss poor all year etc.  I just want to watch a football game and not argue about whether we are going to win or lose.  I think we can win.  I think we can lose.  Thats what's great about football.  If it were a definite one or the other, then why watch at all? 

 

12 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

That's why I've been quoting their HOME games.  

 

Dallas 28 

Miami 31 

Washington 34 

Minnesota 34  

 

The last time I looked we weren't playing them in NE, Tampa, LA, New Jersey, KC, or Buffalo.  We're set to play them in Philly.  

 

If you think that good comps are ROAD games, great.  Not seeing it, but to each his own.  I'm not going to hammer you and aggressively try to beat you down.  

 

Yeah that doesn't mean much to me.  Home/Away what have you.  The only team they have blown out this year is Miami.  Almost all their games have been by one score.  I bet some of those one score wins were set up by something too.  Philly is not the end all be all.  They have had some pretty crappy games too.  They just did something we haven't and closed out.  That can change in a heartbeat.  Thats why they play and dont simulate.

4 minutes ago, wppete said:

I think it’s time we bench him , especially for Sundays game against Philly. Give more reps to Epanesa and Rousseau . Von is not himself anymore and hurting the team out there.  
 

 

 

He isn't going to be himself.  He has to work to get back to it. 

[wppete]

6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

He isn't going to be himself.  He has to work to get back to it. 

While he hurts the team. It’s not worth it. We are in win now mode and we don’t have room for error. Need our best players out there. Or just bring him in during garbage time when we are leading by a lot.

[SoonerBillsFan]

22 minutes ago, wppete said:

I think it’s time we bench him , especially for Sundays game against Philly. Give more reps to Epanesa and Rousseau . Von is not himself anymore and hurting the team out there.  
 

 

I'll say it again, he isn't himself anymore.  When it was Rousseau and groot this front 4 was doing better. Let the youth get the snaps and get into the flow of the game.

21 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I'm not saying we are back but sometimes it just takes a spark and we had some sparks.  Now lets see if it continues.  Every other top team has gotten that benefit and yes we have been a top team for a few years.

 

Yes, it's a team sport.  They got set up by some stuff.  Thats what happens in a football game.

 

It's an indication that they can do it.  Not an indication yet that they will be consistent in doing it.

 

This isn't living and dying by the big play

 

 

Thats just the passing.  We also ran the ball 36 times but I'm not pulling charts of all the runs too.

 

 

Honestly, I don't wanna argue with all that.  I've said the same stuff... execution been piss poor all year etc.  I just want to watch a football game and not argue about whether we are going to win or lose.  I think we can win.  I think we can lose.  Thats what's great about football.  If it were a definite one or the other, then why watch at all? 

 

 

Yeah that doesn't mean much to me.  Home/Away what have you.  The only team they have blown out this year is Miami.  Almost all their games have been by one score.  I bet some of those one score wins were set up by something too.  Philly is not the end all be all.  They have had some pretty crappy games too.  They just did something we haven't and closed out.  That can change in a heartbeat.  Thats why they play and dont simulate.

 

He isn't going to be himself.  He has to work to get back to it. 

I just don't see him getting back to form. Too old and getting older.

[finn]

45 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

It's a troll. Don't waste your time. I'd say an 11 year old girl from Sri Lanka at best is who u are dealing with.

You got a problem with 11-year old girls from Sri Lanka? The ones I know are intelligent, curious, fun, and lively. 

[bills742]

 

[CSBill]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

I think it’s time we bench him , especially for Sundays game against Philly. Give more reps to Epanesa and Rousseau . Von is not himself anymore and hurting the team out there.  
 

Yes, time to sit him. He has done nothing but take a game day roster spot. 

[Simon]

49 minutes ago, finn said:

You got a problem with 11-year old girls from Sri Lanka? The ones I know are intelligent, curious, fun, and lively. 

 

<FBI opens a case file on finn>

 

 

[jkeerie]

Ha!  Third time was a charm for another pick! 

[JohninMinn.]

Josh needs to break a few long runs.

[Ray Stonada]

About the Von situation, it was intriguing that McD used him as part of a 5-2 defense on Sunday.
 

Five D lineman and it produced a sack on its first try. 

 

Maybe that’s a great way to get him reps on obvious passing downs?

[RichRiderBills]

45 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

About the Von situation, it was intriguing that McD used him as part of a 5-2 defense on Sunday.
 

Five D lineman and it produced a sack on its first try. 

 

Maybe that’s a great way to get him reps on obvious passing downs?

 

I worry this week especially because his wide speed moves outside really open up running lanes for hurts. You gotta think they are watching the film and may try to target this. 

[Ray Stonada]

6 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

I worry this week especially because his wide speed moves outside really open up running lanes for hurts. You gotta think they are watching the film and may try to target this. 

 

Yep. If we put him on the field only in obvious passing downs, maybe it helps. And with the 5 D lineman, Groot should be there next to him.

 

But yeah, we need every game from here on out, Von's rehab can't take precedence over getting to the dance.

[PBF81]

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Yeah that doesn't mean much to me.  Home/Away what have you.  The only team they have blown out this year is Miami.  Almost all their games have been by one score. 

 

It should mean prepare to get scored on in Philly.  Whether they hit their minimum, 28, or average, 32, or greater, we'll see.  But we were discussing the O/D and the point I was trying to make was that I wouldn't rely on our D for this game.  

 

The Jets game then came up and I laid out how that was more big plays than steady consistent scoring drives, which it was.  

 

As well, after the Miami game, they played better than we did vs. the Jets, put up more points and more yards w/o the aid of two drives starting nearly in the Jets' red zone, were better on 3rd-down-conversions and red zone conversions, in NY contrasted with at home, and turned the ball over three times contrasted with our 1, and got only 2 takeaways contrasted with our 4.  

 

The point?  The point is that maybe the Jets' D really isn't all that great right now.  It was good at the beginning of the season, but it's faded, particularly in light of their anemic offense that hasn't hit the 14-point mark once in the past five games.  

 

 

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I bet some of those one score wins were set up by something too.  Philly is not the end all be all.  They have had some pretty crappy games too.  They just did something we haven't and closed out.  That can change in a heartbeat.  Thats why they play and dont simulate.

 

No, they're not, who ever said that they were?  

 

But they're a good team that's beaten several better teams than we've beaten and at 9-1 they have the best record in the league.  That shouldn't be taken lightly.  

 

One argument is that they may show up flat due to the Niner game the following week.  I doubt that'll be the case as we'll be an easier win for them and I cannot imagine that Siranni will let them get ahead like that.  And even if they did come in flat, that's pretty much the rule for us, coming in flat this season.  ... until it isn't.  Not sure I'd use the Jets as a measuring stick on that one, and we didn't start all that strong in that game either.  Our first 137 yards on four drives resulted in 3 FGs including two stalled red zone drives.  

 

it was Douglas' INT that sparked us just prior to the half.  

 

We'll see what happens.  

 

Thanks for the back-n-forth!  

 

 

[EffKCChiefs]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

<FBI opens a case file on finn>

 

 

You never know where Chris Hansen could be! 

[finn]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

<FBI opens a case file on finn>

 

 

That came out wrong....🤨

 

[Scott7975]

57 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

Thanks for the back-n-forth!  

 

Sure.  We find out in two days.  Enjoy the game!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

It should mean prepare to get scored on in Philly.  Whether they hit their minimum, 28, or average, 32, or greater, we'll see.  But we were discussing the O/D and the point I was trying to make was that I wouldn't rely on our D for this game.  

 

The Jets game then came up and I laid out how that was more big plays than steady consistent scoring drives, which it was.  

 

As well, after the Miami game, they played better than we did vs. the Jets, put up more points and more yards w/o the aid of two drives starting nearly in the Jets' red zone, were better on 3rd-down-conversions and red zone conversions, in NY contrasted with at home, and turned the ball over three times contrasted with our 1, and got only 2 takeaways contrasted with our 4.  

 

The point?  The point is that maybe the Jets' D really isn't all that great right now.  It was good at the beginning of the season, but it's faded, particularly in light of their anemic offense that hasn't hit the 14-point mark once in the past five games.  

 

 

 

No, they're not, who ever said that they were?  

 

But they're a good team that's beaten several better teams than we've beaten and at 9-1 they have the best record in the league.  That shouldn't be taken lightly.  

 

One argument is that they may show up flat due to the Niner game the following week.  I doubt that'll be the case as we'll be an easier win for them and I cannot imagine that Siranni will let them get ahead like that.  And even if they did come in flat, that's pretty much the rule for us, coming in flat this season.  ... until it isn't.  Not sure I'd use the Jets as a measuring stick on that one, and we didn't start all that strong in that game either.  Our first 137 yards on four drives resulted in 3 FGs including two stalled red zone drives.  

 

it was Douglas' INT that sparked us just prior to the half.  

 

We'll see what happens.  

 

Thanks for the back-n-forth!  

 

 

Philly is playing a bit over their heads at 9-1 imo…they’ve been flat pretty often this season and have showed up when they needed to make a play just about every time.  Their luck will run out at some point…I have no idea if it’s going to be this game but they’re going to come back down to earth a bit 

 

We got sparked by an int against the jets defense but Miami didn’t get sparked by a 99 yard Hail Mary pick six? 😂. That shoulda been a 10-6 game at halftime with tua coming off back to back ugly picks 

[Scott7975]

 

Devonta Smith popped up on Friday injury report with a knee.  No status but somethin to keep an eye on.  Most of their top skill players are banged up.  Goedert is out.

Edited November 25, 2023 by Scott7975

[Chaos]

Beat the eagles requires stopping their passing game.  They have only five losses since the beginning of the 2022 season.  The average passer rating in those five losses is an abysmal  80.4.    In their 23 wins in that time span, their average passer rating was an elite 101.9. 

 

Hurts passer rating tends to go down, the more he is passes. (cause and effect is a bit mushy regarding this statement)  Allens passer rating is more or less independent of volume.  The Bills best chance to win this game is to try to control the tempo of this game in a way that leads to a shootout. 

[taglientep]

38 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Beat the eagles requires stopping their passing game.  They have only five losses since the beginning of the 2022 season.  The average passer rating in those five losses is an abysmal  80.4.    In their 23 wins in that time span, their average passer rating was an elite 101.9. 

 

Hurts passer rating tends to go down, the more he is passes. (cause and effect is a bit mushy regarding this statement)  Allens passer rating is more or less independent of volume.  The Bills best chance to win this game is to try to control the tempo of this game in a way that leads to a shootout. 

Great analysis.  I hope buffalo can control this game.  

[Chaos]

4 minutes ago, taglientep said:

Great analysis.  I hope buffalo can control this game.  

Controlling it, and slowing it down, will likely be a mistake.  I don't think McDermott has ever been comfortable manageing a shoot out pace game. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

First time in a long time that I felt the Bills have no chance to win a regular season game. 

[taglientep]

11 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Controlling it, and slowing it down, will likely be a mistake.  I don't think McDermott has ever been comfortable manageing a shoot out pace game. 

I agree.   I didn’t mean necessarily slowing it down.  I feel the real control needs to be in the trenches.  Very concerned  with having Von eat up snaps to guys who are 100% healthy 

[cisco2403]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

First time in a long time that I felt the Bills have no chance to win a regular season game. 

Don’t understand this sentiment at all. The Bills have a chance to beat any team with Josh Allen at the helm. 
 

 

[RiotAct]

glad Goeddert is out again, that helps us.

[SCBills]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

First time in a long time that I felt the Bills have no chance to win a regular season game. 

Have you watched the Eagles play at all?

 

Theyve had a pretty easy schedule with good wins over Dallas and KC.   Their wins have been a lot like ours last year, where we were winning, but knew it wasn’t sustainable to keep playing that way.  
 

I see some Bills fans talk about talent disparity… and it feels like many are comparing this Bills team vs last years Eagles SB team.  
 

QB - Bills

RB - Eagles

WR - Eagles

TE - Bills

OL - Draw

 

DL - Eagles

LB - Bills 

CB - Draw

S - Draw

 

This is how I see the positional breakdowns.  
 

Hurts is very good.. Allen is Top 2 in the league.

 

Cook is very good, but I’d take Swift. 
 

Diggs, Davis and Shakir have potential to go off any given game, but Brown and Smith are both WR1’s with whatever Julio can give them. 
 

No Goedert evens the skill position playing field.   Bills are without Knox, but Kincaid is a future superstar. 
 

Bills OL is very good.  Same with the Eagles. 
 

Bills DL can be very good, but runs hot and cold.  Eagles DL is consistently good with potentially elite players as depth. 
 

The Eagles Back 7 has been a weakness … and so has the Bills, at times, but the Bills have their top 7 available to them.. and they look like they’re rounding into form.   We just have to hope the depth doesn’t get tested Sunday. 
 

So.. I’m not really seeing this massive talent disparity.   I see two pretty even teams heading into Sunday (with Goedert out) and what will decide this game will be the trenches and QB play..  Bills have to keep it close enough to where the Eagles aren’t massively controlling the LOS - because if they can, it then comes down to Allen showing to the country that the comparisons between him and Hurts this week are a joke.  A repeat of the lead up to Allen vs Tua earlier this year..    

 

Leave no doubt who the better QB is, and the Bills will win. 
 

Edited November 25, 2023 by SCBills

[Ray Stonada]

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Devonta Smith popped up on Friday injury report with a knee.  No status but somethin to keep an eye on.  Most of their top skill players are banged up.  Goedert is out.

If Smith is out that’s a big loss for them. Can double AJ without fear.

Edited November 25, 2023 by Ray Stonada

[Buffalo_Stampede]

17 minutes ago, cisco2403 said:

Don’t understand this sentiment at all. The Bills have a chance to beat any team with Josh Allen at the helm. 
 

 

I don’t think the Bills are a good football team right now.

[RiotAct]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don’t think the Bills are a good football team right now.

we can definitely LOSE to any team as well… as evidenced by the Jets and Patriots losses!

 

Fun fact though - I think the last time we were blown out in a regular season game was 2021 against the Colts.  The Hamlin game might have been trending that way, but we’ll never know.

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On 11/21/2023 at 8:23 AM, Captain Hindsight said:

Having watched the Eagles Chiefs game last night, this seems like a game that if Josh is playing like he is capable, this is a very winnable game

 

I have family coming from Philly for thanksgiving and I know they are going to talk trash all week. Would love to have him shut up on Sunday night 

And if the Eagles play like they are capable, they’ll win.  The Bills have too many issues.  I can’t see this as a W unless luck is on the Bills’ side.