McDermott on Dorsey

[Chicken Boo]

9 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

i am not so confident in our offense that we can just burn plays and put it in the end zone whenever we want. 

 

Exactly!  This team is in no position to gamble like that.  

[Simon]

He's probably trying to say that they should have been getting plays off with less pace.

But that's stupid too, because the only time the offense ever gets in rhythm is when they run it with pace.

[UKBillFan]

With that response is ANYONE still confused about what the heck is wrong with the offense right now? Not only do they have to score, they have to do it in the ‘right’ way. And, despite no huddle, uptempo play working this season, it has to be abandoned because they may score too fast.

 

Please, McDermott, do everyone a favo(u)r and resign.

[Mango]

13 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Scoring too fast??? ***** me what is wrong with this coach... 

 

In his defense Peyton said the same thing. Cook was moving the ball. We had production from Murray. Go down at the one in bounds and trust your guys. Force Denver to use some time outs. 
 

I subscribe to the “score when you can”. But I get it. 

[akm0404]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

In his defense Peyton said the same thing. Cook was moving the ball. We had production from Murray. Go down at the one in bounds and trust your guys. Force Denver to use some time outs. 
 

I subscribe to the “score when you can”. But I get it. 

Again, people are just making stuff up.

 

It was First and Goal from the 7 yard line, with 2:35 left to play.

 

We handed it to Cook for 1 yard, to take it to the two minute warning.

 

We ran again with Allen and scored.

 

Denver had 2 timeouts.  There is no "go down at the 1 to run the clock out" scenario.  It's just something you imagined would be better than losing the way we did, but just couldn't possibly have happened.

Edited November 14, 2023 by akm0404

[strive_for_five_guy]

5 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

Again, people are just making stuff up.

 

It was First and Goal from the 7 yard line, with 2:35 left to play.

 

We handed it to Cook for 1 yard, to take it to the two minute warning.

 

We ran again with Allen and scored.

 

Denver had 2 timeouts.  There is no "go down at the 1 to run the clock out" scenario.  It's just something you imagined would be better than losing the way we did, but just couldn't possibly have happened.

Yep.  Down 6, you take the TD when you can get it.  If we dick around and then don’t get it on downs, that’s just stupid.

[BillsFan692]

6 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

Again, people are just making stuff up.

 

It was First and Goal from the 7 yard line, with 2:35 left to play.

 

We handed it to Cook for 1 yard, to take it to the two minute warning.

 

We ran again with Allen and scored.

 

Denver had 2 timeouts.  There is no "go down at the 1 to run the clock out" scenario.  It's just something you imagined would be better than losing the way we did, but just couldn't possibly have happened.

Exactly but mcdermott said that dumb *****.

[BananaB]

Dorsey probably getting fired tomorrow. That will take some focus off McD. Lol

Edited November 14, 2023 by BananaB

[Gunsgoodtime]

McDermott on Dorsey?  What kind of porn is this?  Look I want them both fired but enough is enough 

[Mango]

Just now, akm0404 said:

Again, people are just making stuff up.

 

It was First and Goal from the 7 yard line, with 2:35 left to play.

 

We handed it to Cook for 1 yard, to take it to the two minute warning.

 

We ran again with Allen and scored.

 

Denver had 2 timeouts.  There is no "go down at the 1 to run the clock out" scenario.  It's just something you imagined would be better than losing the way we did.

Peyton Manning said something similar live. Like right when it happened he said “he shouldn’t have scored. He should have gone down in bounds”.

 

You also conveniently left out the part where I said “force Denver to use one of their time outs.” It’s not just the 30 seconds off the clock, it’s them burning a time out.

 

I get it, nobody is right all the time. I disagree with all sorts of pundits with real life NFL experience. But when a top 5 QB of all time says in real time, “should have gone down and forced Denver to burn a TO”, it’s certainly not made up.

[BillsFan692]

Just now, strive_for_five_guy said:

Yep.  Down 6, you take the TD when you can get it.  If we dick around and then don’t get it on downs, that’s just stupid.

Yes exactly right. His defensive calls at the end of the game were clownshoes joker status bush league garbage. Its 13 seconds over and over and over again..

 

TYROD ALMOST GOT US IN FINAL SECOND!!!

[strive_for_five_guy]

Just now, BillsFan692 said:

Exactly but mcdermott said that dumb *****.

When Dorsey was asked to comment on McD, he said “Nah I’m straight”

[Dr.Sack]

Allen should have slid short of goal? That makes sense in a perfect world. That ensures a play for the game down 16-22. 

[BillsFan692]

Just now, strive_for_five_guy said:

When Dorsey was asked to comment on McD, he said “Nah I’m straight”

Not true but hilarious 

[akm0404]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

Peyton Manning said something similar live. Like right when it happened he said “he shouldn’t have scored. He should have gone down in bounds”.

 

You also conveniently left out the part where I said “force Denver to use one of their time outs.” It’s not just the 30 seconds off the clock, it’s them burning a time out.

 

I get it, nobody is right all the time. I disagree with all sorts of pundits with real life NFL experience. But when a top 5 QB of all time says in real time, “should have gone down and forced Denver to burn a TO”, it’s certainly not made up.

 

Yes, yes it is.  There are times when "going down" to keep the clock running is the correct play.

 

Second and goal from the 6 behind by 6 points with 2:00 left and your opponent having 2 timeouts is most assuredly not one of them.  Whether you're an idiot like Sean McDermott or a genius like Peyton Manning, it doesn't change reality.

[mannc]

21 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

i am not so confident in our offense that we can just burn plays and put it in the end zone whenever we want. 

Neither is Dorsey, which is why we never throw the ball downfield on 2nd and short. 

[akm0404]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

Allen should have slid short of goal? That makes sense in a perfect world. That ensures a play for the game down 16-22. 

No it doesn't.  That Allen run was with 2:00 on the clock with Denver having 2 timeouts.  It doesn't make sense in a perfect world, an imperfect world, or any world in between.

[US Egg]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Said he has confidence in him but things could have been better, then brings up scoring too fast when we got down to the endzone.

 

That tells me he is not happy with Dorsey.

Tells me:

[LABILLBACKER]

26 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Scoring too fast??? ***** me what is wrong with this coach... 

He's a moron. Score too fast...score too slow....run....don't run...experimenting with different styles....why don't we experiment with ending his tenure in Buffalo. 

[jkeerie]

22 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

Does he honestly think they should have burned downs there? 

I did not get that impression at all.  He said it almost in passing, then commented on being aggressive on D, and then he mentioned practicing going from dime to the FG team this week, even practicing blocks.  He said the whole team had to be better.

[Dr.Sack]

Just now, akm0404 said:

No it doesn't.  That Allen run was with 2:00 on the clock with Denver having 2 timeouts.  It doesn't make sense in a perfect world, an imperfect world, or any world in between.

In our world scoring when we did cost us the game. Should have tripped and fell short of the goal. Hell Denver’s D wanted him to score to get the ball back. Check the tape. 

[DapperCam]

There are 2 important stats in football.

 

Points per drive on offense. Points given up per drive on defense.

 

Score as many points per drive as possible and try to get as many drives as possible. McDermott is miles behind what KC has for their coaches.

[Rocbillsfan1]

30 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Scoring too fast??? ***** me what is wrong with this coach... 

I mean maybe it was better if we didn’t score at all lol. How but don’t call an all out blitz on 3rd and long at the end of the game you dumbass 

[akm0404]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

In our world scoring when we did cost us the game. Should have tripped and fell short of the goal. Hell Denver’s D wanted him to score to get the ball back. Check the tape. 

Stop it, you are wrong.

 

The play was 2nd and Goal from the 6 yard line with 2:00 left, Bills down 6, Denver with 2 timeouts.

 

Explain to me how the game goes if Josh Allen slides down at the 1 instead of scoring the touchdown with 1:55 to go.  I'll even let you just magically gift the Bills a free touchdown on whatever down you think they should, ignoring that like, you don't just get to push a button on the Touchdown Machine.

[Mango]

1 minute ago, akm0404 said:

 

Yes, yes it is.  There are times when "going down" to keep the clock running is the correct play.

 

Second and goal from the 6 behind by 6 points with 2:00 left and your opponent having 2 timeouts is most assuredly not one of them.  Whether you're an idiot like Sean McDermott or a genius like Peyton Manning, it doesn't change reality.

Your words were “it’s just something you imagined would be better”

 

I rebutted with it’s not made up, a pretty notable HOF QB mentioned it in real time. 
 

And you are saying “no it is because it’s a bad idea”.
 

I’m not even arguing whether it’s a good idea or bad. In fact in my original post you quoted I said “I prefer to take the points when they’re available”. I also said “Pundits with real liked NFL experiences aren’t infallible”. 
 

But here we are talking about things being made up still….

[akm0404]

Just now, Mango said:

Your words were “it’s just something you imagined would be better”

 

I rebutted with it’s not made up, a pretty notable HOF QB mentioned it in real time. 
 

And you are saying “no it is because it’s a bad idea”.
 

I’m not even arguing whether it’s a good idea or bad. In fact in my original post you quoted I said “I prefer to take the points when they’re available”. I also said “Pundits with real liked NFL experiences aren’t infallible”. 
 

But here we are talking about things being made up still….

Any scenario where the correct play was for Josh Allen to slide down at the 1 yard line on 2nd and Goal from the 6 with 2:00 to play, down 6 points, with Denver having 2 timeouts is simply not true.  It doesn't matter who says it is true, it just is not.

[Dr.Sack]

1 minute ago, akm0404 said:

Stop it, you are wrong.

 

The play was 2nd and Goal from the 6 yard line with 2:00 left, Bills down 6, Denver with 2 timeouts.

 

Explain to me how the game goes if Josh Allen slides down at the 1 instead of scoring the touchdown with 1:55 to go.  I'll even let you just magically gift the Bills a free touchdown on whatever down you think they should, ignoring that like, you don't just get to push a button on the Touchdown Machine.

Easy Josh slides at the 1’ line, it’s now on Denver to call a TO. Let them use it.  As it stands Cam Lewis gets injured and they get a free TO. If we failed at the 1’ line we still have 3 TOs to stop Denver. 

[Mango]

1 minute ago, akm0404 said:

Any scenario where the correct play was for Josh Allen to slide down at the 1 yard line on 2nd and Goal from the 6 with 2:00 to play, down 6 points, with Denver having 2 timeouts is simply not true.  It doesn't matter who says it is true, it just is not.

You should maybe work on phrasing if you think “not true” and “disagreeing” are the same thing/interchangeable. They’re not. Like at all…

[Nextmanup]

McDermott would throw his mom under the bus if it would mean Clappy keeping his job.

 

Coaching change or no coaching change, this team is going to need a fairly substantial retool this off-season.

 

If we wait another year or 2 and THEN fire McDermott, it will likely be too late relative to Josh's career.

 

 

[The Red King]

Show me a game where this happens.  This situation, needing the TD, where someone about to run it in kneels instead.

 

Seriously, has this happened?  If you need a FG, sure.  But not when you need a TD.

[billsbackto81]

37 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Said he has confidence in him but things could have been better, then brings up scoring too fast when we got down to the endzone.

 

That tells me he is not happy with Dorsey.

 

 

I understand completely.

 

My wife also gets upset when I score too fast when I'm in her endzone.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Does complimentary football actually mean football that makes McDermott's coaching not look bad? 

 

Like McDermott wants to play complimentary football because when they don't he has a scape goat 

[DuckyBoys]

this is stupid you just score then ask your defense to stop someone when it counts  They havent done it all year of you think about it  Bucs game hail mary hits the ground and Godwin didnt see it in time  Giants game Taron Johson mugs the guy no call  That is two more choke jobs on Sean's resume  ST's sucked again  Lost Jets game and certainly contributed mightily tonight

[Dr.Sack]

1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Does complimentary football actually mean football that makes McDermott's coaching not look bad? 

 

Like McDermott wants to play complimentary football because when they don't he has a scape goat 

In every loss there is a GOAT. Let’s be real did Norwood not lose Super Bowl 25, along with 1/2 the defense that missed Dave Megget? 

[Nextmanup]

9 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

There are 2 important stats in football.

 

Points per drive on offense. Points given up per drive on defense.

 

Score as many points per drive as possible and try to get as many drives as possible. McDermott is miles behind what KC has for their coaches.

I love the way McDimwit benches Cook, as though the fumble was intentional or the product of "carelessness" and as though being benched will somehow prevent him from fumbling again in the future.

These guys are pros and they are trying their hardest all the time.  If he is the best runner, you play HIM, McDimwit.

 

McDermott is like an 8th grade gym coach compared to the elite coaching minds of this league...

 

 

[BillMafia716ix]

Dorsey called a good game today. I’m tired of letting Josh Allen off the hook. I like the kid but he’s overrated. If you go into a game wondering if Bad Josh or Good Josh is going to show up you have a problem. 
 

He makes too many damn mistakes and I’m tired of it. No accountability on the sideline. Doesn’t try to get guys going when he’s on the bench. Just sits there with a dazed look on his face. I’m over it. But unfortunately we stuck with him. So Dorsey will take the fall.

[akm0404]

5 minutes ago, Mango said:

You should maybe work on phrasing if you think “not true” and “disagreeing” are the same thing/interchangeable. They’re not. Like at all…

My phrasing is fine, your understanding of the situation is not.  But it's fine, take the L and move on.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Just now, Dr.Sack said:

In every loss there is a GOAT. Let’s be real did Norwood not lose Super Bowl 25, along with 1/2 the defense that missed Dave Megget? 

I was too young to have watched that super live.....but I watched the highlights every super bowl Sunday for years (along with every super bowl) and was always amazed that little guy was ALWAYS open for 15 yards 

 

What actually happened and how 

[DapperCam]

2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

this is stupid you just score then ask your defense to stop someone when it counts  They havent done it all year of you think about it  Bucs game hail mary hits the ground and Godwin didnt see it in time  Giants game Taron Johson mugs the guy no call  That is two more choke jobs on Sean's resume  ST's sucked again  Lost Jets game and certainly contributed mightily tonight

Pats game Allen also left the field with the lead and less than 2 minutes left. Then McDermott’s defense gives up a game winning TD drive to Mac Jones, one of the worst offenses in the NFL.

[White Linen]

Defensive head coaches talk stupid like that.