theRalph Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 It's a short week with less game planning. There were subtle hints during the Allen and Diggs pressers Tuesday. The Bills need a spark. I am predicting we see the Bills offense go no-huddle for significant portions of the game Thursday, and beyond. The K-Gun was unveiled 33 years ago. It may be time for Allen's version. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, theRalph said: It's a short week with less game planning. There were subtle hints during the Allen and Diggs pressers Tuesday. The Bills need a spark. I am predicting we see the Bills offense go no-huddle for significant portions of the game Thursday, and beyond. The K-Gun was unveiled 33 years ago. It may be time for Allen's version. The Bills offense has looked a lot better in the 2nd half the last few games with an uptempo approach. Maybe this’ll give them the spark they need. This would also help JA read coverages better. Diggs mentioned the need for JA to have more time to assess the defense by already being lined up in his presser. Should we call it the A-Gun? Or, I guess since it was named after Keith McKellar, our TE at the time, we should call it the D-Gun after Dawson/Dalton. Edited October 26, 2023 by BillsFan619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Lets call it.... the ol' "Score in the First Half Offense" sounds kinda catchy to me. 😉 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I wouldn’t mind it at all. We’ve moved the ball and scored when Josh is running the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Should we call it the A-Gun? Or, I guess since it was named after Keith McKellar, our TE at the time, we should call it the D-Gun after Dawson/Dalton. In all seriousness, the Bills offense has looked a lot better in the 2nd half the last few games with an uptempo approach. Maybe this’ll give them the spark they need. This would also help JA read coverages better. Diggs mentioned the need for JA to have more time to assess the defense by already being lined up in his presser. The D-K Gun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 slow it down, everything is too exciting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Wouldn't mind it but would MUCH rather not see it come out till a successful scripted first drive gives us a lead. Just don't want to bust it out too early and dig our D into a hole. If it looks unstoppable, we can take it out earlier following games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 No. People suggest this every time the Bills offense struggles. But they always find more permanent ways to fix it, not by going no-huddle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Wouldn't mind it but would MUCH rather not see it come out till a successful scripted first drive gives us a lead. Just don't want to bust it out too early and dig our D into a hole. If it looks unstoppable, we can take it out earlier following games It’s not gonna be unstoppable, it might work at times, but we don’t have Reed, Lofton, Beebe, Thurman, and McKeller/Metzellars. Only Diggs is that circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Hell I'll be happy if they snap the ball with 15 seconds left on the play clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Nah, I think we should actually try to get more delay of game penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 We are spending too much time in the huddle but I wouldn't get away from huddling completely. One of the cover 1 guys posted our stats in no huddle situations this year and we are league average or worse in most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: It’s not gonna be unstoppable, it might work at times, but we don’t have Reed, Lofton, Beebe, Thurman, and McKeller/Metzellars. Only Diggs is that circle. Not unless we get the band back together 🤩🤩🤩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 There can be difference between a "no huddle" and "up tempo". I've never been a fan of a true fast pace 2 minute style no huddle except at the end of half or game. When it works it can be nice and confuse a defense. Wear them down. When you have a few drives in a row when you don't move the ball it really leaves your defense in a bad spot. And right now we don't have the depth pieces to absorb that. I like a more fast paced tempo where plays are called at the line; not a huddle. Much like Peyton Manning used to do. Difference being instead of rushing the snap...still take your time at the line. Lets the QB see what the defense is doing and still doesn't allow for them to sub in...and if they do you can often quick snap and catch with too many men on the field. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Complete no huddle? No , uptempo at times? Hell yes I've been screaming it for 4 games now. Mix it up. Between drives, during drives. Mini huddle at times. It's part of an aggressive mind set. We look like we are always trying to adjust to the D rather than having the D try to adjust to us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I am 100% no huddle, all the time. Get rich or die trying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Nah, I think we should actually try to get more delay of game penalties. Ahh "the slow huddle offense" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I hope so. The only time the offense has been scoring is when they had a sense of urgency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 if your defense performs like a gutless turd, it doesn't matter what you call the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Is Dorkey capable of getting a play called in less than 30 seconds? Can Allen fit several plays in his head? Can the Bills huddle for less time that it took me to write my Master's Thesis (several years btw)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Yes. Speeding up three and outs so our depleted defense can get more practice at trying to stop the opponent is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 They need to start the game full throttle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Yes. Speeding up three and outs so our depleted defense can get more practice at trying to stop the opponent is a good thing. yeah that's the conundrum here. They can't score in the 1st half, so they speed it up late in the game, but by then it's too late. If they start with the no-huddle or hurry up, im not sure results will be different, 3 and out but faster at the end of the day the play calling sucks and the execution sucks. The players are going through the motions, the coach is clapping, and the process is the punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Yes. Speeding up three and outs so our depleted defense can get more practice at trying to stop the opponent is a good thing. Good luck tonight Sean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 They need to keep our D off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 16 hours ago, theRalph said: It's a short week with less game planning. There were subtle hints during the Allen and Diggs pressers Tuesday. The Bills need a spark. I am predicting we see the Bills offense go no-huddle for significant portions of the game Thursday, and beyond. The K-Gun was unveiled 33 years ago. It may be time for Allen's version. Yes.3 wide, 1 TE and just let it rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 There will be necessary package changes with our TE situation but aside from that, don't expect some sort of philosophical overhaul on a short week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 They need to go fast and go 5 wide with short quick passes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 hours ago, prissythecat said: Yes. Speeding up three and outs so our depleted defense can get more practice at trying to stop the opponent is a good thing. That's my issue with it too. Our offense needs long sustained drives. I suppose that could be done with a no-huddle offense, assuming it's not a "hurry-up" offense. No huddle, Josh takes his time reading the defense, and we run a mix of running plays and high-percentage short passes, including a lot of play-action and the occasional screen pass. Seems like for the past 20 years, our defense gets burned on screen passes while our offense can't even put one together. How many OCs do we have to go through before we find one who can design an effective screen pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Yes, if it means less Dorsey and/or McD play calling the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 They should do anything and everything they can tonight to win this game. IMO this is a must win. They have to get this win and then regroup. The players need this weekend off to clear their heads and the front office needs to go get them help....hopefully in the middle of the defense. I am really nervous about this game tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 This post has aged well. On 10/26/2023 at 9:29 AM, dorquemada said: Is Dorkey capable of getting a play called in less than 30 seconds? Can Allen fit several plays in his head? Can the Bills huddle for less time that it took me to write my Master's Thesis (several years btw)? Apparently so... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, theRalph said: This post has aged well. Apparently so... yeah they did it for sure. was a much more entertaining brand of football! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 OP with the prescient thread! Josh clearly played a more precise game in uptempo mode. He missed on a few passes but his accuracy seemed on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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