NY Giants @ Buffalo Bills - SNF 2nd half game thread

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, IronyAbounds said:

Because it was a bad throw. He was not under that much pressure and he short-armed it. Just because I don't go to bed sniffing Josh's jock doesn't mean I'm a "so-called fan."

I’d cut him some slack as he was running for his life all night but that was certainly a bad throw.  The situation reminds me a lot of the first bills dolphins game last year down the stretch where he missed that wide open td 

 

knox could’ve caught it though 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Blainorama5]

Ugly, very ugly wins srill count!

[AlfaBill]

Just now, IronyAbounds said:

Because it was a bad throw. He was not under that much pressure and he short-armed it. Just because I don't go to bed sniffing Josh's jock doesn't mean I'm a "so-called fan."

You must not watch a lot of football good receivers make tough catch all day to bail out the QBs off throw. Not in here. Let’s be honest. Outside of Diggs there’s no one I trust to make a clutch catch. 

[GoBills!]

11 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Dawson Knox, while playing injured, is NOT having a good season. This isn’t a hot take. 

He is overpaid for what he can do. He isn't a hybrid TE scoring machine. That type of money should be a solid slot or WR 2 to take the pressure off diggs.

[par73]

1 minute ago, IronyAbounds said:

Because it was a bad throw. He was not under that much pressure and he short-armed it. Just because I don't go to bed sniffing Josh's jock doesn't mean I'm a "so-called fan."

Yes, Allen did short-arm it. Obviously could have been caught--- but not a good throw.

[AlfaBill]

1 minute ago, BRH said:

He got both hands on and under the ball.  An NFL TE makes that catch.  

Maybe on other teams they do. Not here. 

[Fetou]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Beane needs to be on the phone Monday morning to trade for Jeudy. 

 

We won't be able to win anything like this. 

Can he go two ways and play corner?

[PayDaBill$]

Usually we’re on the short end of those I’ll take the W.  But let’s face it in some respects this looks an awful lot like last season.  We aren’t that good. Somethings just not quite right, can’t put my finger on it.

Edited October 16, 2023 by PayDaBill$

[Straight Hucklebuck]

37 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

He’s the only one we throw to.  Big difference.

Well oldman, something has to change, because this is not going to work. 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Thanks, I guess we can keep waiting for that Gabe Davis explosion. 

 

Or maybe Kincaid comes back from the concussion and becomes the #2. 

Kincaid honestly gets a lot of defensive attention since week 1 for someone that’s new to the league it has def surprised me at times 

 

vs the jets it felt like he was open all night though lol

[dave mcbride]

11 minutes ago, IronyAbounds said:

Sorry, that was a terrible throw. Yeah Knox could have caught it, but it was an easy throw and Josh short armed it.

Extremely catchable, and Knox has a long history of dropping passes like that. It’s who he is at this point.

[AlfaBill]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Would have been great if Knox would have made the catch, but not sure relying on Knox to make a spectacular catch is a great plan while Knox is playing through that injury if it's as it's been described.

Knox always drops balls. Injured or not. He’s good for a few angry runs and multiple easy drops a season. Overpaid TE. I think that’s why they drafted Kinkaid. 

[Mikie2times]

14 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:

I think that was the actual most stressful

ending I’ve ever seen. 

I can think of half a dozen way worse than that, but ya...wow.

 

Further, I don't think we have won one of those games in well over a decade

[AlfaBill]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Extremely catchable, and Knox has a long history of dropping passes like that. It’s who he is at this point.

Careful. You’re looking like a jock sniffer with your logic 

[26TrapDraw]

Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Thanks, I guess we can keep waiting for that Gabe Davis explosion. 

 

Or maybe Kincaid comes back from the concussion and becomes the #2. 

You’re not wrong. But we lost too many critical pieces on defense. 3 key starters and 1 ( Milano ) who was playing at a defensive player of the year level just can’t be replaced. The biggest problem I see is Dorsey’s offensive is too predictable. In the last 2 weeks D coordinators ate our offense up.

they better right the ship this week because if the giants were a good team we would of lost by 20.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

It's what happens in every game where we don't come out with the intent of establishing the run game. 

I need some time to process this one lol but jax was  intent on not letting us run and they were able to take the pass away too because our pass blocking was horrid 

[Scott7975]

7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

First one was a little more questionable and I don’t think should’ve been called…there’s no way they’re calling two pis leading to untimed downs in a row unless the receiver gets absolutely destroyed 

 

Agree.  I thought the first one was ticky tack but the second one could have legit been called.

[Comebackkid]

9 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

he's the head coach. he's directly calling the defense. the buck stops somewhere.

The defense was fine, if this continues all season and Dorsey is still here then yes it falls on him

[AlfaBill]

4 minutes ago, par73 said:

Yes, Allen did short-arm it. Obviously could have been caught--- but not a good throw.

That’s my point. Should be caught but it wasn’t because it want a PERFECT pass. The team needs playmakers on O. 

[Fetou]

Just now, 26TrapDraw said:

You’re not wrong. But we lost too many critical pieces on defense. 3 key starters and 1 ( Milano ) who was playing at a defensive player of the year level just can’t be replaced. The biggest problem I see is Dorsey’s offensive is too predictable. In the last 2 weeks D coordinators ate our offense up.

they better right the ship this week because if the giants were a good team we would of lost by 20.

They are desperate for outside corner. The safeties are no longer capable of covering up deficits there. With Dane out today things get dire. If he or Benford get seriously injured they may as well forfeit

[Man with No Name]

looks like we are stuck with him at least one more year

 

https://overthecap.com/player/dawson-knox/7887

[popcornpam]

15 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

LOL NBC is now basically telling the world that the NFL gave the Bills the win

I don’t think they would do that with Kansas City. Remember the Super Bowl where they flagged Philly!

Edited October 16, 2023 by popcornpam

[26TrapDraw]

Just now, Fetou said:

They are desperate for outside corner. The safeties are no longer capable of covering up deficits there. With Dane out today things get dire. If he or Benford get seriously injured they may as well forfeit

Also true

[Zag20]

Shouldn’t the first one have been defensive holding? He had released once the ball was out IMO

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

Careful. You’re looking like a jock sniffer with your logic 

Give me a break…it was a routine catch.  Not a great throw, but not bad either

[billybob71]

Allen made some incredible plays on those two scoring drives, Knox absolutely has to do his part and make that catch to bail him out on a bit of a short throw

[Heels20X6]

When a win feels like a loss. 

[BillsSbSoon]

Beane needs to be on the phone for offensive help. Jeudy isn’t helping us much. What about dk metcalf? Hell I’d even take Tyler lockett. Somebody has to be available. I don’t care. We can’t keep going with the offense the way it is

[dave mcbride]

5 minutes ago, mannc said:

Give me a break…it was a routine catch.  Not a great throw, but not bad either

I figured out that he’s being sarcastic.

[Warcodered]

37 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

Allen made some incredible plays on those two scoring drives, Knox absolutely has to do his part and make that catch to bail him out on a bit of a short throw

Everyone's annoyed about Knox not making a great play there, you know what I'm annoyed about on that series, us running the same two predictable run plays before it, making us need a long pass to convert the 3rd down. Seriously I think those were the same run plays we were running on the earlier drives only they worked then because they didn't know we were going to call runs.

Edited October 16, 2023 by Warcodered

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The linebackers might be real good. Both of these guys can fly. It was touch and go there for a min but we only gave up 9 and no TDs. I like 43/42 out there. That could be a hell of a LB combo going forward. Elam wasn’t horrible. If we get Dane Back it will feel better back there. If we can win games when our offense doesn’t have it, that’s a next level for this team. When was the last time the Bills won a game where the bills scored less then 15 points? Josh’s first year?

[billybob71]

Just now, Warcodered said:

Everyone's annoyed about Knox not making a great play there, you know what I'm annoyed about on that series, us running the same two predictable run plays before it making us need a long pass to convert the 3rd down. Seriously I think those were the same run plays we were running on the earlier drives only they worked then because they didn't know we were going to call runs.

true... but a physical super bowl caliber team with a top O line blocks those runs up better and gets it to 3rd and short

[Ralonzo]

14 minutes ago, Shemp said:

Damar Hamlin and Damien Harris = same two initials DH.

 

Dustin Hoffman, David Hasselhoff, Darryl Hannah, Dennis Hopper, and Dennis Haysbert are deeply concerned.

[boyst]

19 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

People always say that we can’t win the close ugly ones. Well, we did. That was as ugly as it could be.

Against a team that we were favored by the most points of any team this weekend. That was a terrible performance and we didn't plan correctly... At all

 

Giants D put on a clinic. 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, billybob71 said:

true... but a physical super bowl caliber team with a top O line blocks those runs up better and gets it to 3rd and short

But when they sniff out the first one and it goes nowhere, why would you do the exact same play, I mean run to the outside maybe, do something else.

[muppy]

3 minutes ago, Heels20X6 said:

When a win feels like a loss. 

the expectations were the Bills were going to curbstomp this team. The ugly way we won stings. It has made our high expectations crumble more than a bit. Im reading the room. The feeling of future dread is palpable without some personnel changes.  Which may or may not happen. I have my doubts

[billybob71]

Just now, Warcodered said:

But when they sniff out the first one and it goes nowhere, why would you do the exact same play, I mean run to the outside maybe, do something else.

yeah i hear you their run game could be way more creative its always treated as an afterthought it seems

[AlfaBill]

13 minutes ago, mannc said:

Give me a break…it was a routine catch.  Not a great throw, but not bad either

I was being sarcastic. Someone said the same to me for a similar remark. 

[Ralonzo]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Everyone's annoyed about Knox not making a great play there, you know what I'm annoyed about on that series, us running the same two predictable run plays before it making us need a long pass to convert the 3rd down. Seriously I think those were the same run plays we were running on the earlier drives only they worked then because they didn't know we were going to call runs.

 

I get that, and I'm annoyed at all of the above, but this is 2023 and when one of the best 96 guys at his position can't catch it I get crooked. It's not like a Josh fastball, that was more like Josh knowing this guy isn't trustworthy, he's thinking "I almost need to make the catch for him" and float the ball in there, and it gets dropped anyway.

[AlfaBill]

21 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Usually we’re on the short end of those I’ll take the W.  But let’s face it in some respects this looks an awful lot like last season.  We aren’t that good. Somethings just not quite right, can’t put my finger on it.

I can. The OC blows.