LabattBlue Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Disclaimer…I love the RZC, have for numerous years now, and if the Bills aren’t playing, this is what I watch. That being said, they get completely carried away with the double, triple and quad box when it is completely unnecessary. I thought the whole point was to show games when a team is in the “RED ZONE”? Now they go to the multiple box scenario even when plays are not simultaneous, and include garbage games with teams snapping the ball in their own territory. Hello RZC…not everyone is watching on a 100” TV. I have a 60” TV, couch is 10’ away, and the multi-box scenarios are annoying as heck. Yes…now I feel better. 😂 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Example #473,864 of the tech version of "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should". 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Yeah, it is definitely not as good as it was when Andrew Siciliano was doing it. Now they just jump from game to game without explaining what is happening situationally, like he used to. Plus, instead of being the red zone channel, it has become the let’s jump to every play of every game, regardless of where they are on the field, channel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I agree I hate the quad boxes and octoboxes, etc. However...there are so many times when teams aren't in the Red Zone so they have to cut to other team content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Wow. You people are spoiled. I think the RZ is outstanding. They bounce you around the league and never miss an important play. The production values are excellent. I call it "God's channel " 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 When directv had Sunday ticket I would watch four games at once if the Bills were not playing. It was like being in a sports bar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, gomper said: Wow. You people are spoiled. I think the RZ is outstanding. They bounce you around the league and never miss an important play. The production values are excellent. I call it "God's channel " I think the overuse of the multi-box view is a fair criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I watched it for about an hour during the early afternoon game and found it too "busy." Part of it was the frequent use of multi-screen view, as the OP described, but another was just the constant hopping between games. Yeah, I understand that that's its purpose, but I'd rather watch one game at a time. They show scoring plays from other games and I can watch game highlights at halftime, during the post-game show, and on YouTube. I eventually flipped over to the Giants-Dolphins game and just watched that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 the quad boxes are great. I'm on a 65" tv and have no problem paying attention to each game. I wish they had a channel that had all 4 up at all times. I do this on my pc with streams often. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Is there a way to "quad box" on demand? Or is it just when they do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Yesterday ,at one point, during the late games, when they had the 4 boxes, 3 out of the 4 boxes had an official explaining a penalty.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Disclaimer…I love the RZC, have for numerous years now, and if the Bills aren’t playing, this is what I watch. That being said, they get completely carried away with the double, triple and quad box when it is completely unnecessary. I thought the whole point was to show games when a team is in the “RED ZONE”? Now they go to the multiple box scenario even when plays are not simultaneous, and include garbage games with teams snapping the ball in their own territory. Hello RZC…not everyone is watching on a 100” TV. I have a 60” TV, couch is 10’ away, and the multi-box scenarios are annoying as heck. Yes…now I feel better. 😂 I watched RZ for the first time ever on Sunday. It was a bit much for me. Nice if I am not going to pay much attention to the tv, but not if I want to get a feel for any particular game. And I watched it on a small tv at a rental so that didn’t help. Spot on about four games running simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Yeah, it is definitely not as good as it was when Andrew Siciliano was doing it. Now they just jump from game to game without explaining what is happening situationally, like he used to. Plus, instead of being the red zone channel, it has become the let’s jump to every play of every game, regardless of where they are on the field, channel. This. I hate having switches to games with absolutely no warning or narrative - it's like watching TV when gramps controls the remote and he just changes channels willy nilly - it's annoying! DTV with Siciliano was so much better (although the guy got no breaks). Edited October 10, 2023 by The Avenger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Never thought something like the RZ & NFL package combo could be to so thoroughly enjoy the NFL. It is near perfection imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I think the overuse of the multi-box view is a fair criticism. Fair enough, but what are they supposed to do? The channel is about full immersion. I think they do a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, gomper said: The channel is about full immersion. To me, it's the exact opposite. When I'm fully immersed, I'm focusing on one game. RZ is broad, not deep, coverage. As someone else said, it's okay if it's just in the background, but I couldn't just sit on the couch and watch it like I would a single game. (In fact, that's why I got up and started doing other stuff, with the TV in the background.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Disclaimer…I love the RZC, have for numerous years now, and if the Bills aren’t playing, this is what I watch. That being said, they get completely carried away with the double, triple and quad box when it is completely unnecessary. I thought the whole point was to show games when a team is in the “RED ZONE”? Now they go to the multiple box scenario even when plays are not simultaneous, and include garbage games with teams snapping the ball in their own territory. Hello RZC…not everyone is watching on a 100” TV. I have a 60” TV, couch is 10’ away, and the multi-box scenarios are annoying as heck. Yes…now I feel better. 😂 sounds like you’ve got a tv problem https://a.co/d/3mniAO3 Problem solved! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Was Justin Rogers not available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I think the overuse of the multi-box view is a fair criticism. You should see the YouTube multi view with quad box red zone in one of the four multi views… 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: the quad boxes are great. I'm on a 65" tv and have no problem paying attention to each game. I wish they had a channel that had all 4 up at all times. I do this on my pc with streams often. NFLST on YT has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I love all the boxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Red zone is gonna give me a seizure. Way too much switching around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 My experience has been that anyone who liked the DTV version of Red Zone tends not to like the NFL Network-produced version with Scott Hanson. This is a pretty good article comparing and contrasting the two: https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/there-is-a-clear-favorite-in-the-battle-of-the-nfl-redzone-channels.html The tl/dr: NFL Red Zone "engineers" a bunch of drama by often claiming they are showing you "live" game feeds but in reality, they know what's going to happen and they're on a 1-2 minute tape delay. Siciliano's DTV version always cut live to the action whenever possible. They would show highlights of scoring plays that happened while they were away from a game, but call them exactly that - a replay. If Hanson's channel misses a play, they cut to a "live" feed of the game that's really just a highlight of a touchdown that happened a minute or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I regularly watch the RZ Channel, and my biggest gripe is when they show any plays from dumpster fire games! LOL For the most part though, I think they do a terrific job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I watched it for the first time yesterday and really enjoyed it especially late in the games. And I was watching on NFL Network + on my phone. I only watched it because the broadcast games were stinkers, so it filled a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 My pet peeve is when they waste time showing extra points and chip shot FGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 6 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Yeah, it is definitely not as good as it was when Andrew Siciliano was doing it. Now they just jump from game to game without explaining what is happening situationally, like he used to. Plus, instead of being the red zone channel, it has become the let’s jump to every play of every game, regardless of where they are on the field, channel. I was all ears when Siciliano was on there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, sullim4 said: My experience has been that anyone who liked the DTV version of Red Zone tends not to like the NFL Network-produced version with Scott Hanson. This is a pretty good article comparing and contrasting the two: https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/there-is-a-clear-favorite-in-the-battle-of-the-nfl-redzone-channels.html The tl/dr: NFL Red Zone "engineers" a bunch of drama by often claiming they are showing you "live" game feeds but in reality, they know what's going to happen and they're on a 1-2 minute tape delay. Siciliano's DTV version always cut live to the action whenever possible. They would show highlights of scoring plays that happened while they were away from a game, but call them exactly that - a replay. If Hanson's channel misses a play, they cut to a "live" feed of the game that's really just a highlight of a touchdown that happened a minute or two ago. Unless you are staring at your phone while watching RZ, how would you know it is delayed by a minute or so. To me…not a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Unless you are staring at your phone while watching RZ, how would you know it is delayed by a minute or so. To me…not a big deal. I think that's the problem. With fantasy as well as Sunday Ticket itself - at least I tend to be keeping track of more games. I often find myself using my laptop to, say, participate in the game day thread here or in the "Around the NFL" chat on Sundays. I often already know what's happened before the NFLN can rearrange the clip of the live feed. It's not a huge deal, but IMO coming from the DirecTV broadcast, I preferred their way of doing it. Perhaps the new way will grow on me, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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