Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, SUNY_amherst said: I think it is clear that everyone's post here is nothing but their opinion. Obviously we can't know with "absolute certainty" because Allen & Diggs play for Buffalo and Sean McDermott OH, OK! So you're willing to jettison the winningest coach in team history for a CHANCE under a 70 year old coach. Sounds good, where do I sign up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, SUNY_amherst said: I want a Super Bowl in my city of Buffalo. To do that they need to move on from McDermott. Fresh eyes are needed. In your humble opinion, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I don’t think he’ll ever lead us to a Super Bowl. He’s here as long as Allen’s here. Love a Super Bowl but after so many losing seasons this organization don’t have the balls to fire McD and go after one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: McDermott isn't on the hot seat, obviously. And as someone who has been lukewarm on his ability to bring us a Super Bowl, he's impressed me so far this season. I do believe that with his defensive style, this team is better suited to win deep in the Playoffs. That being said.... Way too many losses like this under his tenure. Patrick Mahomes looks well on his way to another season of home playoff games, while the Bills look completely disjointed against the Jets and were woefully unprepared for the London game. Another year, another season of inexplicable losses that we likely look back on as the reason we lose out on the 1 seed. ....and this year, we have the added bonus of Miami in division, a team that might be a notch below Buffalo and KC, but has an Offense that doesn't seem prone to JV games like ours can put forth. If they continue in keeping Tua upright, they don't look like a team that is going to slip up against a NYJ or Jax. Let his questionable coaching decisions continue to mount up..taking a redeye flight to London bc family time was more important than arriving early is just another head scratcher from a coach who has a mounting history of head scratchers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Thriftygamer83 said: Now, I’m just going to see myself out of this. I'm going to go ahead and help you with that. And it's not just because you've already been warned about crusading in the last 24 hrs. Or that you're bringing political nonsense in here. Or that your insulting other members of this community. It's that I think you are having an episode that requires intervention from a medical professional and that you are unaware of it. So I am going to lock you out of here for a while in the hope that you will put down your phone/get off your computer and go seek the help that you need. I hope things work out well for you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin C Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Remember when we were the laughing stock of the NFL for years? That’s exactly what we would be if the Bills fired McDermott. I know it’s the silent majority that only comes out after losses but you people make this board insufferable, which is why I rarely post. You guys probably would have wanted Marv Levy fired after his fourth year or Andy Reid fired after his fifth year in KC. Fact is if the people that want McDermott fired ran this team they would be firing everyone every year like it’s a game of madden. McDermott may be a defensive mind but the numbers show he is usually one of the more aggressive coaches in the league on offense. One of the only things I would consider in the off-season is offering Kliff Kingsbury a boat load of money to leave Thailand and run the offense if things look shaky throughout the rest of the year. But firing McDermott would put us back in laughing stock of the league status. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, SCBills said: McDermott isn't on the hot seat, obviously. And as someone who has been lukewarm on his ability to bring us a Super Bowl, he's impressed me so far this season. I do believe that with his defensive style, this team is better suited to win deep in the Playoffs. That being said.... Way too many losses like this under his tenure. Patrick Mahomes looks well on his way to another season of home playoff games, while the Bills look completely disjointed against the Jets and were woefully unprepared for the London game. Another year, another season of inexplicable losses that we likely look back on as the reason we lose out on the 1 seed. ....and this year, we have the added bonus of Miami in division, a team that might be a notch below Buffalo and KC, but has an Offense that doesn't seem prone to JV games like ours can put forth. If they continue in keeping Tua upright, they don't look like a team that is going to slip up against a NYJ or Jax. I would also add the Jets into the mix if Zach can be an effective game manager. Although his pass right before the half yesterday was comical which cost the Jets a FG because time ran out. Also, the INT in the 4th quarter was a bad throw, but otherwise he played decent enough to get a win in Denver. They just need to let Hall and G. Wilson make plays along with that defense then they will be in the WC mix until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: I would also add the Jets into the mix if Zach can be an effective game manager. Although his pass right before the half yesterday was comical which cost the Jets a FG because time ran out. Also, the INT in the 4th quarter was a bad throw, but otherwise he played decent enough to get a win in Denver. They just need to let Hall and G. Wilson make plays along with that defense then they will be in the WC mix until the end of the season. Yea, the AFC looks like a jumbled mess with most of the conference at 3-2 or 2-3 and of the 4-1 teams, KC keeps winning close games with help from the refs and Miami looks elite, yet was blown out by the best team they've faced. Edited October 9, 2023 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 He probably has heated seats in his car, so I’m sure that he was in the hot seat on his ride home this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: I think the biggest difference between Belichick and McDermott is that Belichick is able to win in many different ways. Lets not act like he blew everyone out for 20 years because of Tom Brady. They won many games where they weren't their best or the other team even had more talent. For the Bills to win, Allen has to dominate the opponent. We aren't winning rock fights 17-16 and stuff. That's what is needed though if you want a Super Bowl Again yes Belichick can be great at times, but lately he hasn't been and let's not forget he also put that team together he has now. He is the gm and coach and last year and this year especially has been awfully bad. I'm not discrediting past success but rightnow he looks like a mediocre and at times bad coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Judging to the caustic reactions to the OP, people around here LOVE being mediocre. McD still has not figured out timeouts, challenges, etc. Can't find an OC. Can't get the team into a rhythm. Great DC, not a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said: I think the biggest difference between Belichick and McDermott is that Belichick is able to win in many different ways. Lets not act like he blew everyone out for 20 years because of Tom Brady. They won many games where they weren't their best or the other team even had more talent. For the Bills to win, Allen has to dominate the opponent. We aren't winning rock fights 17-16 and stuff. That's what is needed though if you want a Super Bowl He dominated for 20 years because he is a great defensive coach who had McDaniels and Tom Brady. All McD needs is a Josh McDaniel because he's already got a Tom Brady (or reasonable facsimile). We will see this year if Dorsey can suck it up or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Judging to the caustic reactions to the OP, people around here LOVE being mediocre. McD still has not figured out timeouts, challenges, etc. Can't find an OC. Can't get the team into a rhythm. Great DC, not a HC. "mediocre" When's the last time this team has been average? Which is, after all, the meaning of mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: "mediocre" When's the last time this team has been average? Which is, after all, the meaning of mediocre. you know what I mean. This team is a continual, and will be a continual, make the playoffs and lose team. Perhaps you were a 90's Dolphins fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Thriftygamer83 said: Then we may hear the McDermott drone of how teams didn’t listen to his process. It’s been over seven years, he needs to have sustained energy. I’m sure players like him and respect him. Just had so many problems bringing the intensity which we saw Pederson bring. Which still is alarming because he didn’t bring the team until Friday, how prepared would Levy have been, he would’ve been focused, composed, and building up a playing scheme around the pitch. So many different issues wherein he still acts like a spoiled brat and with a padded win-loss ratio and breaking the drought I think the first chip in his armor is exposed. To me it feels like after admitting he didn’t bring the energy, waiting until Friday, and not remembering how Doug Pederson had smoked him last time. Sean didn’t take it seriously he’s not as focused as Marc Levy, he’s not as schematically focused as Levy, and he’s not going to try and learn one hundred percent the perfectionism of Marv. Bottom line is, is that until McDermott actually takes it seriously 24/7 he’s got no business being an NFL HC end of story. I can't imagine that McD did not take the Jags seriously. Everybody knows they have a stout D and many good players at skill positions on O. Are we sure that the travel arrangements were his call to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 Sean McDermott is today's version of Marty Schottenheimer. Great Coach that can't win in the playoffs. Truth. 3 1 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: you know what I mean. This team is a continual, and will be a continual, make the playoffs and lose team. Perhaps you were a 90's Dolphins fan? All but one team that makes the playoffs loses. This is true every single year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Zolack and Bertan on Boston's 98.5 the Sports Hub speculating that Bill Belichick could end up in Buffalo and winning multiple Super Bowls with our roster. Just one before I die - that's all I want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Zolack and Bertan on Boston's 98.5 the Sports Hub speculating that Bill Belichick could end up in Buffalo and winning multiple Super Bowls with our roster. Just one before I die - that's all I want. McDermott going to step back and hire a defensive coordinator next season I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Zolack and Bertan on Boston's 98.5 the Sports Hub speculating that Bill Belichick could end up in Buffalo and winning multiple Super Bowls with our roster. Just one before I die - that's all I want. I doubt McDermott is getting fired. Here in the NYC area on WFAN, Esiason is speculating that if Bill and the Pats part ways then he would love to coach the Giants. Just speculation on Boomer's part but Bill does have a history with the Giants. At around 70 years old would he be interested in going through a rebuild. I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Warcodered said: McDermott going to step back and hire a defensive coordinator next season I guess. I'm not convinced McDermott HAS IT. Yea, the team was amazing last week at home against Miami but this past weekend - out coached. I was there - stadium was jumpin with Bills fans - and the Bills just seemed off. What a depressing evening and flight home the next day. Edited October 12, 2023 by BillStime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, BillStime said: I'm not convinced McDermott HAS IT. Yea, the team was amazing last week at home against Miami but this past weekend - out coached. I was there - stadium was jumpin with Bills fans - and the Bills just seemed off. What a depressing evening and flight home the next stay. 13 seconds convinced me he doesn't. But my opinion means nothing. Only Terry's counts. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Gregg said: I doubt McDermott is getting fired. Here in the NYC area on WFAN, Esiason is speculating that if Bill and the Pats part ways then he would love to coach the Giants. Just speculation on Boomer's part but Bill does have a history with the Giants. At around 70 years old would he be interested in going through a rebuild. I doubt it. Yeah, they mentioned the Giants, too... but they drove home Buffalo because of the roster (they LOVE Josh Allen here) and it would REALLY bother the locals that Bill jumped for another team in the AFC East. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 7:51 PM, QLBillsFan said: Pegula is the one who signed off on this ridiculous game. Putting his team at a significant competitive disadvantage! is this true? we had the ability to say no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gregg said: I doubt McDermott is getting fired. Here in the NYC area on WFAN, Esiason is speculating that if Bill and the Pats part ways then he would love to coach the Giants. Just speculation on Boomer's part but Bill does have a history with the Giants. At around 70 years old would he be interested in going through a rebuild. I doubt it. If BB is fired my guess would be as GM. I think he is still a good coach just a terrible talent evaluator now. Also Bills be dumb to move on from their HC unless the wheels fall off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, PatsFanNH said: If BB is fired my guess would be as GM. I think he is still a good coach just a terrible talent evaluator now. Also Bills be dumb to move on from their HC unless the wheels fall off. I don't think McDermott and Beane are in danger of getting fired. But these playoff losses every year are frustrating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Now Felger & Mazz think Bill will go to Buffalo in a heartbeat... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Now Felger & Mazz think Bill will go to Buffalo in a heartbeat... lol I mean if he wants to come here as a Defensive Asst HC, I'm all for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Now Felger & Mazz think Bill will go to Buffalo in a heartbeat... lol Won't happen but I would love it if it did. 9 Super Bowl appearances with 6 championships with a franchise QB and a good roster. I will take that over McChokesintheplayoffseveryyear. 24-7-365 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 7:43 PM, Mark92 said: The way this offense can go from running like a sports car to a dump truck in 7 days is baffling. At some point the roller coaster needs to stop. We have all seen how great this team can be. We only get so many chances with Allen at the helm. Beane has to be at least pondering the idea of coaching being the issue. Also is there an issue with this teams conditioning? Lots of injuries the past 2-3 years. When will fans understand that Beane has FAR less power than McDermott? Coach McDermott can get Beane fired, at least until Mr. Pegula wakes up from the trance he is in after McDermott sold him a bill of goods. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: If BB is fired my guess would be as GM. I think he is still a good coach just a terrible talent evaluator now. Also Bills be dumb to move on from their HC unless the wheels fall off. See, now I think that's the first step to getting rid of Bill all together. We all know how petty Belichick can be. It's actually one of his only redeeming traits IMO. The second Kraft strips away GM duties Bill would resign. He's had full power for far far too long to share it at this stage of his career. He's not taking what would equate to a demotion and sticking around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: When will fans understand that Beane has FAR less power than McDermott? Coach McDermott can get Beane fired, at least until Mr. Pegula wakes up from the trance he is in after McDermott sold him a bill of goods. I remember in an interview when they were first hired that Terry said both men report to him. Both have equal power and neither one can fire the other. Terry is the only one who can make changes to the HC/GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: See, now I think that's the first step to getting rid of Bill all together. We all know how petty Belichick can be. It's actually one of his only redeeming traits IMO. The second Kraft strips away GM duties Bill would resign. He's had full power for far far too long to share it at this stage of his career. He's not taking what would equate to a demotion and sticking around. If I was Kraft i would do it and say to Bill “ We have to do what’s best for the team.” Which would get him to resign faster lol. Seriously though His GM skills gotten bad! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: If I was Kraft i would do it and say to Bill “ We have to do what’s best for the team.” Which would get him to resign faster lol. Seriously though His GM skills gotten bad! It’s always been bad. He doesn’t have Brady bailing him out now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gregg said: I remember in an interview when they were first hired that Terry said both men report to him. Both have equal power and neither one can fire the other. Terry is the only one who can make changes to the HC/GM That is true (and I hate that structure), but i think Bill meant McD has more sway with Terry than Beane. Remember, he hired McD first and then Beane on his recommendation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Mcd is the Marty Schottenhiemer(sp) of this generation. He can get you 10+ wins every year but gets beat by better coaches in the playoffs. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Westside said: It’s always been bad. He doesn’t have Brady bailing him out now. That’s just not my true. People forget Brady was average for the first few years and at least 2 SB.. I will agree he was bad at times but come on getting Moss for a 4th and Welker for a 2nd and 7th was great GM moves…heck even now his drafting of D players isn’t terrible.. but on O it’s beyond bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, PatsFanNH said: That’s just not my true. People forget Brady was average for the first few years and at least 2 SB.. I will agree he was bad at times but come on getting Moss for a 4th and Welker for a 2nd and 7th was great GM moves…heck even now his drafting of D players isn’t terrible.. but on O it’s beyond bad. I humbly disagree. He’s terrible at talent evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: If I was Kraft i would do it and say to Bill “ We have to do what’s best for the team.” Which would get him to resign faster lol. Seriously though His GM skills gotten bad! Ever since the dog started making picks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: If BB is fired my guess would be as GM. I think he is still a good coach just a terrible talent evaluator now. Also Bills be dumb to move on from their HC unless the wheels fall off. You could never have a new GM in Foxboro and keep Belichick around. How is that going to work? They have to clean house. Throw Bill a big ceremony and send him on his way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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