mrags Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoTier said: The Fins have cap issues, and adding Claypool isn't going to help enough to win now to justify however little he costs the Fins against the cap. They also put Armstead on IR to make room for Claypool. If the Fins do find an OLer -- or Armstead heals up and comes back in four games -- what do they do with Claypool? It's just a trade to make a trade for Miami. We’ll see I guess. Like I said before. I’m not saying it’s the right move. I’m saying for a team on the verge of winning it all, it might be that little bit of help to get them over the top. Worst case you trade a late pick in the 20s or later in the 6th round for an early pick in the top 10 in the 7th and cut him if he’s an issue. Best case he gets his head in straight for once and helps you win games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: It's a good move. Virtually no risk. If they can get him engaged....another weapon. We'll see. While I didn't want Claypool I do wish the Bills occasionally grabbed up people when teams were forced to sell low. When a team who just gave up the 32nd pick in the draft for a guy and direly needs passing game weaponry gives up on said player basically immediately...one has to imagine there's a pretty good reason. The fact that he's a guy who a team needs to make a big effort to "get engaged" is exactly the problem. He was "not engaged" in Chicago from pretty much the first game onward. It's not as if they were eliminated from playoff contention, so he checked out. He STARTED THE SEASON checked out. That's why a guy like that gets traded for peanuts. And that's why, contrary to what you say, there actually IS a bit of risk. His last team asked him to stay away from the facilities. He was that much of a headache/drag on the team. I get what you're saying, because the compensation is low, but...I just don't want any part of a guy like that, to be honest, even for a future 7th or a swap of late picks or whatever. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The Steelers always find very talented receivers. When they move on from a guy it’s for a good reason. I’m glad the Bills didn’t deal for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I'm sure they're turning over those stones too. Claypool COULD provide them with the big target redzone threat and 50/50 deep ball guy that they're currently missing. I'm not saying it's a great move (though I suppose it could turn into a good one), just that it's not completely illogical or useless to the Fins. Here's the way I approach this trade. I am pretty sure in the great scheme of things Claypool will make little to no difference on the field when it comes to wins and losses. At BEST he's WR3 at worst WR5. But also, I just picked him up in fantasy. Because I'm wrong sometimes, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, mrags said: First part of me lols and says he will tear them apart even more from the inside. second part of me is angered that we didn’t make that trade for him. It’s almost nothing. Should have taken a stab at it. Are you trying to 'outweird' Tognarelli? 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, mrags said: Didn’t Diggs get into a bar fight a few years ago? Didn’t Allen make racist comments a few years ago? Didn’t Cornelius Bennett rape a girls virgin butthole many years ago? There’s plenty of reasons why you don’t make moves, draft players, or trade for players. And one really big reason why you do make those moves…. No, Allen didn't make racist comments. Post a video of Diggs kicking a man on the ground. I don't know about any story about Bennett. Oh those KC Chiefs who desperately need WR help. Why didn't they get him? I mean, wouldn't you say they have a bigger need at WR? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, streetkings01 said: Yea take a stab at a player that’s on his 3rd team in 4 seasons. Steelers and Bears are telling the league this guy ain’t worth it! Steelers put up with AB so you know they are patient. Moving him out fast for them is a sign I would think. Bears are well the Bears and giving up a weapon is another sign. Can’t wait to see Hills attitude if Claypool starts taking his touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Logic said: When a team who just gave up the 32nd pick in the draft for a guy and direly needs passing game weaponry gives up on said player basically immediately...one has to imagine there's a pretty good reason. The fact that he's a guy who a team needs to make a big effort to "get engaged" is exactly the problem. He was "not engaged" in Chicago from pretty much the first game onward. It's not as if they were eliminated from playoff contention, so he checked out. He STARTED THE SEASON checked out. That's why a guy like that gets traded for peanuts. And that's why, contrary to what you say, there actually IS a bit of risk. His last team asked him to stay away from the facilities. He was that much of a headache/drag on the team. I get what you're saying, because the compensation is low, but...I just don't want any part of a guy like that, to be honest, even for a future 7th or a swap of late picks or whatever. You could be right. I wouldn't be shocked if this goes nowhere. But...I have a feeling McD is going to find a role for him and a little success will change his mindset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Every ball passed his way is one less ball going to Hill or Waddle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 young man who has been a locker room cancer goes to South Beach What can go wrong? I bet Tyreek will be great role model Maybe they can get Antonio Brown to be the wr coach Honestly if Tomlin could not get it to work ...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 This might ruffle some feathers with Hill and Waddle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I don't think Claypool was a malcontent in Pittsburgh, he had a great rookie year for them (873yds, 11 TDs). The Steelers traded him away because rookie George Pickens was surpassing him in the pecking order. If somebody offers you a draft pick in the 30s for a guy who's 3rd on your depth chart at his position, you take it & run- regardless of his attitude. His attitude issues were all with the Bears. The guy is clearly a jackass now, but I don't think he came into the league as one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I think the “locker room cancer” storyline is a bit dramatic though I don’t think he goes from being a healthy scratch with horrendous tape this season to suddenly a superstar in Miami. If I’m a Dolphins fan I don’t hate the trade. They are getting Claypool as a rental for next to nothing. If he helps then great. If not, then they didn’t give up much. It seems like a potential low risk/high reward situation. On the other, I don’t really see how Claypool fits in with the Miami receivers. Are you going to take Hill, Waddle, or a route runner like Berrios off the field for Claypool? Is he better than Chosen/Carcraft? Maybe…but we’re talking about WR4 snaps for a player that doesn’t play special teams. Maybe they are thinking he’s a bigger body who might be a red zone target or a WR for 50/50 balls? It’s possible, but then again these aren’t passes that Tua throws a lot of. Passes in the screen game? Claypool is probably the 4th best WR option on the team, maybe 5th if you line Achane at WR. Overall I don’t think he’ll have that big of an impact in Miami but you can’t fault them for trying. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, 947 said: I don't think Claypool was a malcontent in Pittsburgh, he had a great rookie year for them (873yds, 11 TDs). The Steelers traded him away because rookie George Pickens was surpassing him in the pecking order. If somebody offers you a draft pick in the 30s for a guy who's 3rd on your depth chart at his position, you take it & run- regardless of his attitude. His attitude issues were all with the Bears. The guy is clearly a jackass now, but I don't think he came into the league as one. To get the real story, we need to hear from our resident Steelers expert @Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Wiz said: This might ruffle some feathers with Hill and Waddle How can Tua vouch for a guy that he's never played with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Useless player. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said: How can Tua vouch for a guy that he's never played with? I'm guessing he's referring to him as a person and not a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 It’s a nice trade they didn’t give up much for a talented player but Miami’s issues are offensive line and defense this solves nothing for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I hope they implode. But I think he’ll actually be a decent 2/3 option for them if he has realistic expectations about targets and roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, mrags said: First part of me lols and says he will tear them apart even more from the inside. second part of me is angered that we didn’t make that trade for him. It’s almost nothing. Should have taken a stab at it. So you wish for a cancer for our opponents, but you wish we had gotten it first? Huh? 🤷♂️ . Edited October 6, 2023 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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