Success Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Belichick has almost become a myth here & around the league. Conventional wisdom is that his job is secure no matter what. But Kraft has expressed frustration w/ the lack of playoff success since Brady left. And the game does pass some of these legendary coaches by. The vibe I get when I check in on the Pats boards is that things could get dicey if things go really south for that team. And an 0-3 start would almost be guaranteed to be an 0-4 start w/ Dallas next on their schedule Could there be big changes in New England if this season end up w/ a losing record and another playoff miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 That would be a shame! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I think they may force a resignation, but no firing. He still got to hire an OC that was clearly his preference, so it doesn't seem there is any outside influence over the coaching hires yet. Usually that's a sign ownership isn't intervening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 BB the GM should have been fired a long time ago. BB the coach is the only reason that team wins more than 4 games. Tough spot for the Cheats 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GymShorts84 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Not hot. They are two executed drives from 2-0. The coaching is very good. They don’t have the playmakers on offense. We all hate him, but his defensive schemes are impressive. Drafting and scouting are probably holding them back. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Missed playoffs and BillyBoy is history in NE. It’s a business and Kraft doesn’t give a hoot about Bills legacy if they are losing fans and Revenue. I think his coaching is highly overrated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Process said: BB the GM should have been fired a long time ago. BB the coach is the only reason that team wins more than 4 games. Well said. I watched both Patriot games and, as you wrote, Belichick is the only reason keeping that team from complete collapse. They are devoid of talent. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: Missed playoffs and BillyBoy is history in NE. It’s a business and Kraft doesn’t give a hoot about Bills legacy if they are losing fans and Revenue. I think his coaching is highly overrated. Don't think his coaching is overrated, but his drafting has been abysmal. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Success said: Belichick has almost become a myth here & around the league. Conventional wisdom is that his job is secure no matter what. But Kraft has expressed frustration w/ the lack of playoff success since Brady left. And the game does pass some of these legendary coaches by. The vibe I get when I check in on the Pats boards is that things could get dicey if things go really south for that team. And an 0-3 start would almost be guaranteed to be an 0-4 start w/ Dallas next on their schedule Could there be big changes in New England if this season end up w/ a losing record and another playoff miss? Basically BB seat is hot. Kraft feels he destroyed Jones development last year and forced him to hire a real OC in O’Brian. If they start 0-4 (which is all but guaranteed if they lose to the Jets) Kraft may tell him this is his last year and then Promote Mayo to HC and make Groh GM. But that’s my guess and opinion and as my wife says I am wrong a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I want BB around for as long as possible. He keeps them in purgatory and away from the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. I really really hope they beat the Jets. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: I want BB around for as long as possible. He keeps them in purgatory and away from the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. I really really hope they beat the Jets. See I think Sanders be a more fun QB if they picked a QB.. heck right now I’d be giddy with the tackle from ND being picked by them in April.. the O line has been horrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 The other day in the BN column that question came up, below is part of Jay S's answer Let’s say they finish this season 8-9. That would leave him 22 wins short. Without an answer at quarterback, it’s hard to see New England making a big jump forward in the years ahead, so projecting them to finish with somewhere between seven to 10 wins over the next couple of years seems reasonable. That would mean Belichick would need to coach into his age-74 season in 2026 to get the record. Jay didn't think Kraft would ever fire him, but I'm not so sure. Can't see him giving him more than another year unless gets 10 wins in 2024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 If you could replace Belichick the GM while keeping Belichick the coach, that would be ideal. But it isn't really possible to make a change like that after you've given a guy complete control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) That team is never going to get better until they get rid of BB, blow it up and rebuild it. They can't do that with BB because he is good enough to keep them mediocre. They should have fired him last year. Edited September 23, 2023 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Losing record without Tommy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, MRW said: If you could replace Belichick the GM while keeping Belichick the coach, that would be ideal. But it isn't really possible to make a change like that after you've given a guy complete control. it is difficult to take that power, it would be easily possible to cede that power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I think he outsmarted himself by having Patricia coach offense last year. If I was Kraft that would really irk me given the results. It looks like BB is chasing Shula's record but that will require at least 3 more seasons if my math is right. I don't think Kraft would fire BB publicly if he was going in a different direction. BB's legacy is hanging in the balance if he can't win without Tommy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 This guy is the hills. He’s dust in a young man’s game. It has passed him by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Losing record without Tommy. And Cheating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Rob Parker of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker on FoxSports Radio said this month that Bill Belichick is a legend and will not be fired. He has 298 all-time wins, only 30 wins behind Don Shula. Parker estimated it will take him three seasons to break that record He said his job is safe until that time. I couldn't find this clip, but this is a clip from this summer where he has the same conclusion, but gives different reasons, like Belichick was the architect of the defense without which Tomy Brady would not have won all those Super Bowls. 36 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Losing record without Tommy. Well, barely. From 2021-23, he was 25-25 in the regular season and 0-1 in the playoffs (loss to you know who). This season he is 0-2 so far. Edited September 23, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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