OT: will that FG block by the Pats fundamentally change kicks?

[pocoboy]

It's another flashy thing that will many every pundit fawn over Belicheat's brilliance, while his success without Brady stands on its own legs.

[Warcodered]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:09 PM, Doc Brown said:

One time thing.  Easily defendable with delayed snap and extra blocker.  Nice job by BB though for trying to make up for not signing Hopkins to make the offense at least average.

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Feels like the kind of thing they were able to do because the Dolphins let themselves become too predictable/complacent on the FG while having a vulnerability. Belichick had it perfectly schemed up but little chance it works again and it didn't though the kicker did miss his next kick.

[peterpan]

The Cheats obviously saw something on film and were able to time the snap. Like a routine “tell”.  Otherwise you could never time it so well.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I mean... doesn't change much if the tackle sees him and blocks him.  

[Dr.Sack]

One idea I thought of long ago is to have a female gymnast prepared to go airborne in front of the field goal poles. Have two guys capable of launching a 90 pounder into the air 20-30’ have her attempt to punch the ball out of the air. Not sure if it would be legal but it would do wonders for DEI initiatives. 

[BuffaloRebound]

Apparently the Dolphins holder played for Pats the last 5 years so they knew his tendency.  This is a 1 time thing that now every holder will make sure theyre not telling pitches.  Seems like Belichik spends 90% of his time trying to find advantages like this.  It worked when Brady took care of the offense.  Now Belichik looks like a crazy old coach.  

[buffaloboyinATL]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:00 PM, Success said:

Honestly, a tip of the cap to the mighty hoodie.  That was something else, and as soon as it happened, it was like, how has no one else thought of this?  He should have kept it in his back pocket for a bigger game, imo.

 

I can see multiple variations of that kind of disruption. Obviously, teams will prep better for it now.  But in some ways, it seems like that move in "Karate Kid" for which there is no real defense.

 

Gotta wonder if we'll try a wrinkle or 2 in that respect, but at minimum, we need to prepare for it.

 

Thoughts?

 

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Yeah, I am guessing it may lead to a rule change. You are allowed a running start as long as you are not heading towards the line of scrimmage, which he wasn’t.

I was shocked when I saw it, because I have never seen anyone do that before.

 

I agree, leave it to the evil genius, to come up with something new, in a game that’s been played for over 100 years.  (By the way, it is likely not new, but it was new to me.)

[VaMilBill]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:05 PM, Fleezoid said:

That was a good design. He was able to watch the snap of the ball and had some speed when he cut up field. It'll be hard to repeat as the end guys will see it coming now. 

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Feel like just have a hard count. Should be easy to draw them Offside

[Royale with Cheese]

I'm wondering, if you draw this guy Offside, is it a free play like on offense?  So Sam Martin can just take the ball and throw it downfield?

[Einstein]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:10 PM, QCity said:

It wasn't just a block, the play was designed to score. Check out Miller running down field in case the blocked ball comes to him. Never seen anything like that.

 

 

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Gotta give Belichick credit.

 

The stuff he comes up with is incredible.

[QLBillsFan]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:47 PM, VaMilBill said:

Feel like just have a hard count. Should be easy to draw them Offside

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And or hot read where you throw to the flat for a TD !

[RiotAct]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:48 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

I'm wondering, if you draw this guy Offside, is it a free play like on offense?  So Sam Martin can just take the ball and throw it downfield?

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Should be!

[Captain Caveman]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:06 PM, Big Turk said:

 

Then that opens up other holes.

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maybe?  It's not like it's a 12th guy on the field.  They have always had to block him, they just weren't expecting him to be coming in that way.

[Fleezoid]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:47 PM, VaMilBill said:

Feel like just have a hard count. Should be easy to draw them Offside

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Possibly. Not sure how the snap is timed. I'd be worried it would throw the kicker's timing off. Perhaps just delay the snap a bit so the rusher has to stop. 

[Simon]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:41 PM, Dr.Sack said:

One idea I thought of long ago is to have a female gymnast prepared to go airborne in front of the field goal poles. Have two guys capable of launching a 90 pounder into the air 20-30’ have her attempt to punch the ball out of the air. Not sure if it would be legal but it would do wonders for DEI initiatives. 

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The NFL now has a "goaltending" rule where you're no longer allowed to block a kick as it passes over the crossbar

[stevewin]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:21 PM, pocoboy said:

It's another flashy thing that will many every pundit fawn over Belicheat's brilliance, while his success without Brady stands on its own legs.

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  On 9/18/2023 at 6:49 PM, Einstein said:

 

Gotta give Belichick credit.

 

The stuff he comes up with is incredible.

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Wasn't Bellicheat

 

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"(Special teams coaches Joe) Judge, (Joe) Houston, and Cam (Achord), they dialed up a really good scheme for that block and saw a weak point on their field goal operation," Schooler said after the game. "We worked it during the week and felt pretty confident about it going into the game."

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[HoofHearted]

  On 9/18/2023 at 6:53 PM, Fleezoid said:

 

Possibly. Not sure how the snap is timed. I'd be worried it would throw the kicker's timing off. Perhaps just delay the snap a bit so the rusher has to stop. 

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There are no snap counts on FG. Holders usually flash a hand to signify they are ready to receive the snap, but then the snapper has free reign to snap whenever he wants. This is to ensure no one can time up the snap. This is taught at every level. How Miami got away with having the same operation before someone got them on it is baffling.

[Beach]

Pat Mcafee broke it down, the holder had a tell and the holder was in NE for 6years.

[ticketssince61]

A total aside - but Patriots should go back to these uni's

[TheWeatherMan]

Yes, just saw the Steelers use this formation against the Browns.