Go Woke. Go Broke.

[BillStime]

lmao 👆🤡👇

 

[B-Man]

 

 

TO BE FAIR, THIS PROBABLY HAS MORE TO DO WITH WOKE DISNEY’S WORSENING BOX-OFFICE PERFORMANCE AND MONEY-LOSING STREAMING SERVICE: 

 

Disney Stock Down 33 Percent Since CEO Instigated Feud with DeSantis. 

 

 

“Disney stock was trading at $133.65 a share when Chapek accused DeSantis of promoting legislation that would “unfairly target gay, lesbian, nonbinary, and transgender kids and families.”

 

Disney shares opened at $89.44 and continued to fall on Wednesday ahead of DeSantis’s formal entry into the 2024 presidential campaign.”

 

https://freebeacon.com/culture/disney-stock-down-33-percent-since-ceo-instigated-feud-with-desantis/

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

Additionally a wise person once told me that political discussions are not for the person you're directly discussing a topic with. It's for the third person who might be listening off to the side.

 

Therefore I'm perfectly fine ignoring commies that will continue to be commies no matter what you, I or anyone else "discusses" with them.

 

If a lurker however looks into something a little deeper than they otherwise would have....then that's the point of being here.

 

Leftists, and the commies increasingly among them, are forever lost.

Then might I respectfully suggest that every time you toss around the pejorative ‘commie’ label you’re actually falling into the same trap? Would anyone (even a lurker) want to hear what you have to say after that? 

[Tiberius]

LONDON, May 25 (Reuters) - Transgender designer Erik Carnell has seen a surge in demand for his pins, prints, stickers and T-shirts after U.S. retailer Target Corp pulled his products amid a backlash by some customers to its Pride collection, he said on Thursday.

Target's Pride collection included more than 2,000 products from clothes and music to home furnishings, and while several are under review the only ones removed so far from its website and stores are from Carnell's brand Abprallen.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/orders-surge-trans-designer-target-133337941.html

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

TO BE FAIR, THIS PROBABLY HAS MORE TO DO WITH WOKE DISNEY’S WORSENING BOX-OFFICE PERFORMANCE AND MONEY-LOSING STREAMING SERVICE: 

 

Disney Stock Down 33 Percent Since CEO Instigated Feud with DeSantis. 

 

 

“Disney stock was trading at $133.65 a share when Chapek accused DeSantis of promoting legislation that would “unfairly target gay, lesbian, nonbinary, and transgender kids and families.”

 

Disney shares opened at $89.44 and continued to fall on Wednesday ahead of DeSantis’s formal entry into the 2024 presidential campaign.”

 

https://freebeacon.com/culture/disney-stock-down-33-percent-since-ceo-instigated-feud-with-desantis/

The DeSantis feud is not related to the worsening stock, the fallout from the Reedy Creek deal will be minimal in the short term, but Disney will have to pay a bit more in taxes in the long run. The stock drop is producing terrible movies and running the parks by trying to squeeze people in new ways. The old way was you paid a ton of money but it was all done, now every little thing is monetized and it pissed people off. 

[BillsFanNC]

51 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Then might I respectfully suggest that every time you toss around the pejorative ‘commie’ label you’re actually falling into the same trap? Would anyone (even a lurker) want to hear what you have to say after that? 

 

You might suggest it, but you'd be wrong.  I toss around the commie label at those proven to be either an actual commie or one who supports them. It's a pejorative that they fully deserve via their stated positions on this forum.

 

Again I understand your wish to try to have reasonable discussions with unreasonable people. I think it's absolutely pointless, but you have to do you.

 

Might I suggest at minimum that you please not quote those who you know many here do not wish to engage with on any level?  Simply tag them in your responses if it's not clear that you're addressing them. If more people did that then I promise you the commie references would dwindle as I'd be seeing far less posts from commies. 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

You might suggest it, but you'd be wrong.  I toss around the commie label at those proven to be either an actual commie or one who supports them. It's a pejorative that they fully deserve via their stated positions on this forum.

 

Again I understand your wish to try to have reasonable discussions with unreasonable people. I think it's absolutely pointless, but you have to do you.

 

Might I suggest at minimum that you please not quote those who you know many here do not wish to engage with on any level?  Simply tag them in your responses if it's not clear that you're addressing them. If more people did that then I promise you the commie references would dwindle as I'd be seeing far less posts from commies. 

 

 

I’ll try that. But with all due respect, and it’s board-wide respectful discourse  that I’m after, I cannot believe you can’t scroll through a few comments from those you don’t want to hear from. 

[Irv]

52 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

LONDON, May 25 (Reuters) - Transgender designer Erik Carnell has seen a surge in demand for his pins, prints, stickers and T-shirts after U.S. retailer Target Corp pulled his products amid a backlash by some customers to its Pride collection, he said on Thursday.

Target's Pride collection included more than 2,000 products from clothes and music to home furnishings, and while several are under review the only ones removed so far from its website and stores are from Carnell's brand Abprallen.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/orders-surge-trans-designer-target-133337941.html

What a mess!

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ll try that. But with all due respect, and it’s board-wide respectful discourse  that I’m after, I cannot believe you can’t scroll through a few comments from those you don’t want to hear from. 

 

Thank you.

 

But you're more likely to see @BillStime go 24 hours without posting about Trump before you'll ever get universal respectful discourse on PPP.

 

I've been here 20 plus years and I've never seen anything resembling respectful discourse here. Sure, it's worse than ever now, but the world is a bigger ***** show now. I seem to recall SDS saying that he regrets ever allowing this sub forum to exist in the first place and I can't say that I blame him.

 

I could scroll through the "content", but its much cleaner and a better board experience with them on ignore....until someone quotes them.

Edited May 25, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Thank you.

 

But you're more likely to see @BillStime go 24 hours without posting about Trump before you'll ever get universal respectful discourse on PPP.

 

I've been here 20 plus years and I've never seen anything resembling respectful discourse here. Sure, it's worse than ever now, but the world is a bigger ***** show now. I seem to recall SDS saying that he regrets ever allowing this sub forum to exist in the first place and I can't say that I blame him.

 

I could scroll through the "content", but its much cleaner and a better board experience with them on ignore....until someone quotes them.

As I’ve often said….be the change you want to see in the world. 

[BillsFanNC]

15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

As I’ve often said….be the change you want to see in the world. 

 

I do appreciate your noble efforts. I truly do. I just know with 100% certainty that it's entirely pointless.  Its not about finding common ground anymore because there is none. It's now about defeating the enemy within or be defeated. I was 100% with you up until recent years, so the change I've already gone through IS the change I want. 

 

People who are actively participating in and/or cheering for the destruction of our nation deserve nothing less than scorn, derision and to be completely shunned.

 

But that's just me.

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

I do appreciate your noble efforts. I truly do. I just know with 100% certainty that it's entirely pointless.  Its not about finding common ground anymore because there is none. It's now about defeating the enemy within or be defeated. I was 100% with you up until recent years, so the change I've already gone through IS the change I want. 

 

People who are actively participating in and/or cheering for the destruction of our nation deserve nothing less than scorn, derision and to be completely shunned.

 

But that's just me.

 

 

 

 

And you believe that they’re all communists? I highly doubt most of them when know a communist from an orangutan. 😉

[All_Pro_Bills]

49 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The DeSantis feud is not related to the worsening stock, the fallout from the Reedy Creek deal will be minimal in the short term, but Disney will have to pay a bit more in taxes in the long run. The stock drop is producing terrible movies and running the parks by trying to squeeze people in new ways. The old way was you paid a ton of money but it was all done, now every little thing is monetized and it pissed people off. 

There's very little in the way of creativity coming out of the studio.  You can only remake old classics while replacing the original cast and roles with the current standard diversity quota formula used for casting and the script.  Who could have guessed The Little Mermaid re-make would have cast a Black actress as the lead?  What was once cutting edge is now boring and predictable.  And all new movies or series must adhere to the formula.  No thinking outside the formula is allowed.  IMO, they even managed to ruin Star Wars.  When will it end?  Maybe a couple movies on the previous life experiences of CP3O and R2D2. 

 

The theme park admission fees, charges, hotels, meals, and merchandise have priced out a lot of consumers.  The idea of spending 1,000's of dollars and going through a death march in the Summer heat and humidity in Orlando while waiting forever in long lines and dragging around two small children isn't an exciting prospect (one thing for certain Disney isn't going put that in their promotional material!).

 

And slowing consumer spending and strained household budgets aren't helping Disney.  Its really discretionary type spending which gets hit hard during recessions and that is a certainty.

[BillsFanNC]

20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

And you believe that they’re all communists? I highly doubt most of them when know a communist from an orangutan. 😉

 

Nope. See other thread.

 

Some are commies. Most are the useful idiots who support them.

 

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

respectful discourse

Our resident troll has told others to F OFF close to 300 times here.

 

Respectful.

 

lolz

 

[Roundybout]

2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

The DeSantis feud is not related to the worsening stock, the fallout from the Reedy Creek deal will be minimal in the short term, but Disney will have to pay a bit more in taxes in the long run. The stock drop is producing terrible movies and running the parks by trying to squeeze people in new ways. The old way was you paid a ton of money but it was all done, now every little thing is monetized and it pissed people off. 

100% agree. Their latest movies are either bland remakes of classics (Little Mermaid) or really crummy animated junk (Strange World). Plus, the Star Wars “$5000-a-night to eat dyed shrimp” hotel has completely bombed.

[Tiberius]

 

3 hours ago, Irv said:

What a mess!

 

 

You hoping some people lose their jobs at target? Acceptable collateral damage of your political primal scream? 

[Andy1]

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

I do appreciate your noble efforts. I truly do. I just know with 100% certainty that it's entirely pointless.  Its not about finding common ground anymore because there is none. It's now about defeating the enemy within or be defeated. I was 100% with you up until recent years, so the change I've already gone through IS the change I want. 

 

People who are actively participating in and/or cheering for the destruction of our nation deserve nothing less than scorn, derision and to be completely shunned.

 

But that's just me.

 

 

 

 

I don’t think any of us are completely defined by our political beliefs. I’ve met many damn good people on both sides with completely opposite views on the world. We all develop our opinions based on our different life experiences and environments we grow up in. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

TO BE FAIR, THIS PROBABLY HAS MORE TO DO WITH WOKE DISNEY’S WORSENING BOX-OFFICE PERFORMANCE AND MONEY-LOSING STREAMING SERVICE: 

 

Disney Stock Down 33 Percent Since CEO Instigated Feud with DeSantis. 

 

 

“Disney stock was trading at $133.65 a share when Chapek accused DeSantis of promoting legislation that would “unfairly target gay, lesbian, nonbinary, and transgender kids and families.”

 

Disney shares opened at $89.44 and continued to fall on Wednesday ahead of DeSantis’s formal entry into the 2024 presidential campaign.”

 

https://freebeacon.com/culture/disney-stock-down-33-percent-since-ceo-instigated-feud-with-desantis/

disney plus subscribers are plummeting….
 

for a company poised to crush it coming out of the pandemic, they fumbled.  They’ve polluted the brand that was built on wholesome family entertainment by injecting political divisiveness that goes against their base. 
 

Hopefully they can make up their losses with Mickey logoed assless chaps.. 😂 

[aristocrat]

 

[aristocrat]

26 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

You hoping some people lose their jobs at target? Acceptable collateral damage of your political primal scream? 

 

how many stores around the country in those democrat cities are closing due to constant theft?  i would love to hear your opinion on that. what about those jobs? now you have this. perhaps it's time you look inward and realize what you're doing is not working. 

[JDHillFan]

48 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

You hoping some people lose their jobs at target? Acceptable collateral damage of your political primal scream? 

One would have hoped that corporate leadership had more concern for their employees and stockholders before alienating their customers. Free market I guess. You support free enterprise, right?

[Big Blitz]

Yep.  Yes he is.  
 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

                                    

 

 

 

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[SCBills]

 

[Gregg]

[reddogblitz]

22 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

You might suggest it, but you'd be wrong.  I toss around the commie label at those proven to be either an actual commie or one who supports them. It's a pejorative that they fully deserve via their stated positions on this forum.

 

Again I understand your wish to try to have reasonable discussions with unreasonable people. I think it's absolutely pointless, but you have to do you.

 

Might I suggest at minimum that you please not quote those who you know many here do not wish to engage with on any level?  Simply tag them in your responses if it's not clear that you're addressing them. If more people did that then I promise you the commie references would dwindle as I'd be seeing far less posts from commies. 

 

 

 

What is your definition of the word "commie"?

[B-Man]

 

 

All they had to do was leave the kids alone.

 

That’s it.

 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/26/we-didnt-think-target-could-get-any-worse-pushing-the-lgbtq-agenda-but-holy-wow-this-is-bad/

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

13 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

What is your definition of the word "commie"?

 

Actual avowed communists who have been at work for decades right here in the US to undermine our government, media and institutions from the inside.

 

Also the useful idiots who assist them, blissfully unaware, which at this point is nearly the entire democratic party and half the GOP. 

 

If you haven't seen this interview of  KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov who describes ideological subversion, in the 80s, I encourage you to do so. There's no denying that we are well down this road already, for those who aren't already brainwashed at least.

 

This also speaks to the conversation @SoCal Deek and I were having yesterday.

 

  

Bezmenov described this process as “a great brainwashing” that has four basic stages. The first stage is called “demoralization” which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. According to the  “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.”

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

37 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

What is your definition of the word "commie"?

Supports

 

Abolition of private property

Heavy progressive income tax

Abolition of rights of inheritance

Confiscation of property rights

Central bank

Government ownership of communication and transportation

Government ownership of factories and agriculture

Government control of labor

Corporate farms and regional planning

Government control of education

[B-Man]

 

 

The Left is attacking us with its most bizarre culture war yet, the “trans” fad that threatens the mental and physical health of our children and young people.

 

So we have no choice but to fight back.

 

To start with, let’s fight back against Target. Target’s sins go far beyond its “Pride” collection. Most attention has focused on the clothing line that included expanded-crotch “women’s” swimsuits and partnership with a Satanist designer. But even worse, in my opinion, is that Target stocks books aimed at children as young as two that promote homosexuality.

 

Nor is that all: Target funds an organization, GLSEN, that urges schools to encourage sex changes in children without notifying their parents:

 

{snip}

 

If a child thinks that he or she has changed, or is changing, his or gender, there are two possibilities:

1) the child is suffering from a severe mental or emotional disorder, or

2) the child is being groomed. In either case, the child’s parents obviously need to be informed and involved.

 

Target has donated more than $2 million to GLSEN. You might think that the company would re-examine its commitment to what is effectively a groomer organization, but no:

 

“GLSEN leads the movement in creating affirming… and anti-racist spaces for LGBTQIA+ students. We are proud of 10+ years of collaboration with GLSEN and continue to support their mission,” Target said. The retail giant provides annual donations to GLSEN.

 

 

So: don’t shop at Target.

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/05/boycott-target.php

[SCBills]

These people think everyone is so dumb..

 

”Oh, are you mad about us honoring some drag queens that use the cross as a stripper pole for Pride?…. Here’s a faith and family night!!.. Please don’t boycott us.”

 

 

[SCBills]

Harley Davidson owners catching strays

 

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by SCBills

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 5/25/2023 at 7:52 PM, Big Blitz said:

Yep.  Yes he is.  
 

 

 

It’s pretty bad when this guy calls you out for trending toward communism 

[SCBills]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Wherefore woke corporations?

 

The right has a saying: “Get woke, go broke.” It’s not always true, but it does seem as though it is sometimes the case that taking a woke leftist stance hurts the bottom line. Just ask Budweiser or Disney. And yet it’s seemingly done all the time.

 

It certainly didn’t used to be that way – that is, companies were far more rigorous in enforcing a “no-politics or alignment with causes” stance (see this). What changed? On the surface, it would seem to make no sense, but there are a host of reasons for it that probably would take a book to explain (and there may be a book someone has already written, and that someone isn’t me).

 

In 2015, Ashe Schow, then with the Washington Examiner wrote, “With all the attention being paid to college-aged social justice warriors and microagressions, one has to ask: What happens when all these delicate snowflakes enter the workforce?”

 

Target, Bud, Disney, and the L.A. Dodgers are finding out good and hard — just as the New York Times’ newsroom did in 2020.

 

 

 

https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/05/26/wherefore-woke-corporations/

 

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20201108102258/https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-survivor-class-coming-to-a-job-near-you

 

 

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[SCBills]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

Lots of cancel culture happening over here...