RD 5, Pick 150: WR Justin Shorter, Florida

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

We found our new MLB

 

 

hmmm yup. Worth the pick already

[TheyCallMeAndy]

4.55 at 6’5” 230 isn’t bad at all

[Chaos]

Just now, Chaos said:

College production last year among FBS WRS, as measured by PFF



Big, Strong can jump.  Our Two-Way Hail Mary Specialist

 

[First Round Bust]

7 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

How’s a 5th round pick a reach? People complain just to complain! 

I posted this on my match.com profile....I yell at clouds during commercials while binge watching Fox News

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Big Body with nice hands 
 

smooth in transitions and smooth running. Gears down going into breaks and takes a bit coming out of them. Massive Questions on ability to separate. 
 

contested catch and 50/50 ball WR. He wins those most times. Decent speed for size. 
 

plays to his size. Will use his body to shield defenders good at finding holes in Zones 

 

my grade was 6th rounder with biggest thing I have written alot can he separate. questions. 
 

think a more athletes Kumerow here. I have better six speed candidates on my list. 

Where did you read that?  Everything I read is that he drops a lot of balls and makes body catches. In fact if you look at those highlights earlier in  the thread he never highpoints the ball.  He lets it come into his body.

Can't teach size though

But hopefully you can teach him how to catch.

 

[Governor]

4 minutes ago, Fixxxer said:

Out with the smurfs, in with Shorter..

I don’t hate this….and I usually hate everything. I never liked the idea of smurfs with Josh’s skill set. There’s no room for error throwing to smurfs.

Edited April 29, 2023 by Governor

[DaggersEOD]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Big physical outside WR that has trouble separating. I see similarly profiled players get drafted sooner than this so I'm fine with the value.

 

Edit: Ignore that first clip of Kincaid, I can't find a way to remove it for some reason.

 

 

 

 

This says he has GREAT hands. 5.5% drop rate (good 🤷‍♂️) but fans who watch the Gators are saying he drops a lot. Which is correct?

[MAJBobby]

This is what you want your team doing. Draft elite traits in late rounds. 
 

ELITE Size and Speed WR 

 

his weaknesses can be coaches out. My only question is can enough route running coaching give him the tools not to gear down and lose the Seperation he did gain. 

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

 

Those shuttle and 3-cone scores aren't that much better than the actual cones.

[BillzFreak]

1 minute ago, par73 said:

He was a bust with two major college programs. May have been available as a FA. This after the baffling Williams pick.

And you actually took the time to type this... that's more baffling then any of the Bills picks lol

[1ManRaid]

2 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

But the draft boards, and intensive scouting and film study, of wannabe draftniks, say otherwise!

 

Well good thing I'm a draft noob who doesn't follow what those wannabes say heh.  NFL.com has him graded as a "good backup with the potential to be a starter", and he was the top receiver prospect in the nation coming out of high school.  From the sounds of it, would have been a day 1 or 2 pick had his college career and development not been hampered by injuries.  Sounds like a good prospect (as in NOT a reach) to develop from the 5th round.

[sven233]

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#Bills 5th-round draft pick Justin Shorter was the No. 1-rated WR in the 2018 recruiting class, ahead of Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jaylen Waddle & Ja’Marr Chase

 

 

 

There's obviously talent there but he hasn't lived up to expectations for whatever reason.  Up to the Bills to pull it out of him.

[Sharky7337]

We are clearly offensively going for size to transition.

[In Summary]

Separation is more important than size, but for a 5th round guy who will get a year of NFL coaching before being asked to do much...I'm ok with this.

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, par73 said:

He was a bust with two major college programs. May have been available as a FA. This after the baffling Williams pick.

I’m sorry… have you seen the picture above? Well worth taking a chance on in the 5th as 5 star #1 WR recruit in 2018

[Bigvinny]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Where did you read that?  Everything I read is that he drops a lot of balls and makes body catches. In fact if you look at those highlights earlier in  the thread he never highpoints the ball.  He lets it come into his body.

Can't teach size though

But hopefully you can teach him how to catch.

 

Great hands 5.5% drop rate (6 drops on 177 targets)

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Where did you read that?  Everything I read is that he drops a lot of balls and makes body catches. In fact if you look at those highlights earlier in  the thread he never highpoints the ball.  He lets it come into his body.

Can't teach size though

But hopefully you can teach him how to catch.

 

My own analysis of watching him in draft prep. That is where I read it from. 

[Billsguy]

10 minutes ago, McBean said:

Meh

My thoughts exactly. Meh.

[Mrbojanglezs]

With both Davis and Shorter Josh is going to have to stand in the pocket for 5 seconds

[Bangarang]

5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Anybody going to try and justify this pick as BPA?

Late rounds aren’t really an area where BPA should be argued. At this point you’re basically drafting guys with specific traits that fit what you want to do.