Calling it now: Drew Sanders will be the Bills number Three pick 😁😁

[John from Riverside]

If we go linebacker, I think it will end up being Jack Campbell
 

The ras score on that dude is insane

[BillsFanForever19]

7 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said:

Bills are looking to trade up.  At least that is the word on the streets. 

It won't be for Drew Sanders, but more likely someone they love at OT or DE - premium positions - that is falling.

 

If we stay put it could be Sanders, but more likely we wait until the 2nd

 

I'm seeing it's for a "Skill Player" or Offensive Lineman. Not Defensive End.

 

So a WR, TE, or OL. Maybe Bijan. But I would be shocked to see us trade up for a RB with the core we have and what we need to fill in the Draft.

 

My guess is for Quentin Johnston, if he happens to fall within range or Darnell Wright.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10071545-nfl-rumors-bills-eyeing-trade-up-from-no-27-pick-in-2023-nfl-draft

 

29 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

If we go linebacker, I think it will end up being Jack Campbell
 

The ras score on that dude is insane

 

I'm in line with most prognosticators - which is Drew Sanders and Trenton Simpson are ranked above him. And thus far, Simpson is the only MLB prospect we have lined up for a visit (that has been reported on). If Campbell is a target, you don't take him at 27.

Edited April 8, 2023 by BillsFanForever19

[LyndonvilleBill]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

If we go linebacker, I think it will end up being Jack Campbell
 

The ras score on that dude is insane

Totally agree. 

 

ESPN BB  #1 Ranked ILB

Draft Buzz BB #1 Ranked ILB

MDD BB #2 Ranked ILB

 

Granted as of right now, Draft Buzz is the only one listing him as a Late 1st, MDD at 42 and ESPN 51 overall he is still tops as an ILB.

 

Also made DJ,'s Top 50.😁

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2023-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-3-0

[BuffaloFan68]

Interesting since my 2 picks are (for now anyways):

I’m nowhere near as confident this year as I was last year but here’s a couple that I would love to see in a Bills uniform:

Drew Sanders, LB 

Joe Tippman, OL WI

 

Let’s Go Buffalo 🦬!!!!!

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 4/7/2023 at 11:18 PM, machine gun kelly said:

BB, you know I respect you’re opinion, but it’s highly unlikely most teams will use their #1 even at 27th on an off the ball LB.

 

You know I like MTC on NFLR and those guys are pretty informative.  They are in the season where they do their mock drafts on Fridays.  They referenced the same point that S, RB, and the above position usually you can get a quality one in the 2nd rd.

 

On the other hand if we don’t get into the Hopkins or OBJ sweepstakes, we probably will grab a WR.  We can always add depth at RT in the 3rd, and I’d love it if we grabbed a stud TE in one of the higher rounds as this is a deep TE class. Beane has tipped his hand if you read between the tea leaves that he wants a better 12 personnel option.

 

We spent higher on Edmunds and Sanders will be more than an off the ball LB.

 

1. LB drew Sanders

2. OG Cody Mauch

3. Zack Kuntz

4. WR Jonathan Mingo

 

 

On 4/6/2023 at 3:02 PM, Mango said:

 

The difference between both Sabrespace and TBD is funny. I made an off color joke based on somebody's phrasing and I got a slap on the wrist from a mod. 

Over hear you get all the fake internet points. 

I do appreciate that neither devolve into any wild crassness.....even though that is how I communicate in real life. 

 

im usually getting suspended over here.

 

 

On 4/6/2023 at 11:48 AM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Lawrence ***** Taylor? you had to go there

 

and ??

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 4/6/2023 at 1:01 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

He is more Edmunds than Campbell is.  His biggest cons are his missed tackles and lack of instincts, areas he is considered raw at.  Basically the same as Esanddmunds was coming out, athletic freak but raw and would need to be developed in a lot of areas.

 

hopefully with McDermott running the D , instead of passive Frazier, he will get back to his aggressive Carolina/Philly roots with more blitzing and confusing fronts, and will turn Sanders loose.

 

 

On 4/6/2023 at 10:59 AM, Shaw66 said:

Well, I don't know if he merits a first-round grade, but I see in him what you see.   Well, I don't see Lawrence Taylor.    If he had much of Lawrence Taylor in him everyone would have seen it by now.   

 

But "dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves....  And he's got that NASTY, which this team needs more of" is exactly right.  He's all of that.  Especially the NASTY part - he's hungry to hit people, and that's the thing that no one ever said about Edmunds.  Technique isn't always the best, but he hits people. 

 

 

 

Right on, and he has room to grow and improve.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 4/6/2023 at 5:32 AM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Not saying I know you're wrong. And yeah, Sanders is a good player.

 

But I am saying that Lawrence Taylor was not an MLB. And an MLB is what we're missing.

 

Sanders had 10.5 sacks in his collegiate career, 5 passes defensed and three forced fumbles. Taylor had 21 sacks, 10 forced fumbles and 2 INTs. 16 sacks in his final year there, playing his second year as an LB. And Taylor hadn't played organized football until 11th grade and started at UNC as a DL until he was switched.

 

I don't see Sanders as our LT in any way. LT was drafted second overall. Is Sanders being discussed in that range? IMO that's a huge huge stretch.

 

We dont have a traditional MLB, but two LBs that play sideline to sideline.

 

 

 

On 4/6/2023 at 12:33 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Why? One is a first team all-pro and we only play two on the field at the same time. We should draft a LB, but not necessarily in the first or second round. 

 

 Because he can rush the passer too

 

 

[Willie West]

🤑

On 4/5/2023 at 10:00 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Everyone likes Jack Campbell, and i do too, but hes the safe pick to replace Edmunds but Sanders is dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves. 

 

he could be our Lawrence Taylor instead of another Edmunds.

 

And hes got that NASTY, which this team needs more of.

 

 

 

 

[Shaw66]

16 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

We don't have a traditional MLB, but two LBs that play sideline to sideline.

 

I think this is the important point.   

 

I'm not anything like an NFL-caliber strategic analyst, and I have to admit that I've never quite understood how McDermott sees defensive strategy, but it's obvious that he doesn't think it's necessary to have a downhill thumping middle linebacker.   What he seems to think is the perfect middle linebacker is a Tremaine Edmunds who is somewhat better attacking the run and blitzing than Edmunds is.   If he wanted a true run-stopping MLB, they wouldn't have drafted Edmunds or stuck with him as long as they did.  

 

Instead, what McDermott seems to want is two Milano's playing linebacker.   Two guys who, as you say, play sideline to sideline, who attack the run, who can blitz.  And that's what you and I see in Sanders.  He isn't perfect, by any means, and he'd be another project like Edmunds, which begs the question whether you can continue to waste years trying to build the perfect linebacker.  

 

He looks to me like he can play the position the way McDermott wants.  Whether he can do it at the level McDermott and Beane want is something that Beane and his team will figure out.  If he's the guy, then Beane's job is to go get him.  

[Paul Costa]

I think Luke K’s opinion is ultra important to McDermott & Beane  on this one

[Bigvinny]

On 4/7/2023 at 11:35 PM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I'm seeing it's for a "Skill Player" or Offensive Lineman. Not Defensive End.

 

So a WR, TE, or OL. Maybe Bijan. But I would be shocked to see us trade up for a RB with the core we have and what we need to fill in the Draft.

 

My guess is for Quentin Johnston, if he happens to fall within range or Darnell Wright.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10071545-nfl-rumors-bills-eyeing-trade-up-from-no-27-pick-in-2023-nfl-draft

 

 

I'm in line with most prognosticators - which is Drew Sanders and Trenton Simpson are ranked above him. And thus far, Simpson is the only MLB prospect we have lined up for a visit (that has been reported on). If Campbell is a target, you don't take him at 27.

Campbell is training with Kuechly. They don't need him to visit. 

[T master]

Me thinks that would be a good good thing but me also thinks of other good things too .

[Chaos]

On 4/9/2023 at 6:17 PM, Shaw66 said:

I think this is the important point.   

 

I'm not anything like an NFL-caliber strategic analyst, and I have to admit that I've never quite understood how McDermott sees defensive strategy, but it's obvious that he doesn't think it's necessary to have a downhill thumping middle linebacker.   What he seems to think is the perfect middle linebacker is a Tremaine Edmunds who is somewhat better attacking the run and blitzing than Edmunds is.   If he wanted a true run-stopping MLB, they wouldn't have drafted Edmunds or stuck with him as long as they did.  

 

Instead, what McDermott seems to want is two Milano's playing linebacker.   Two guys who, as you say, play sideline to sideline, who attack the run, who can blitz.  And that's what you and I see in Sanders.  He isn't perfect, by any means, and he'd be another project like Edmunds, which begs the question whether you can continue to waste years trying to build the perfect linebacker.  

 

He looks to me like he can play the position the way McDermott wants.  Whether he can do it at the level McDermott and Beane want is something that Beane and his team will figure out.  If he's the guy, then Beane's job is to go get him.  

Its a good thing Campbell nor Sanders or Simpson are limited to being a downhill thumping mlb. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

On 4/5/2023 at 10:22 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

He drafted Edmunds because of TRAITS.

 

Cant tackle and not good in coverage, please lol

 

Kuechly wasn't good at those either in college.

 

 

Sanders does have a very high missed tackle rate and is very raw in college

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 4/9/2023 at 6:17 PM, Shaw66 said:

I think this is the important point.   

 

I'm not anything like an NFL-caliber strategic analyst, and I have to admit that I've never quite understood how McDermott sees defensive strategy, but it's obvious that he doesn't think it's necessary to have a downhill thumping middle linebacker.   What he seems to think is the perfect middle linebacker is a Tremaine Edmunds who is somewhat better attacking the run and blitzing than Edmunds is.   If he wanted a true run-stopping MLB, they wouldn't have drafted Edmunds or stuck with him as long as they did.  

 

Instead, what McDermott seems to want is two Milano's playing linebacker.   Two guys who, as you say, play sideline to sideline, who attack the run, who can blitz.  And that's what you and I see in Sanders.  He isn't perfect, by any means, and he'd be another project like Edmunds, which begs the question whether you can continue to waste years trying to build the perfect linebacker.  

 

He looks to me like he can play the position the way McDermott wants.  Whether he can do it at the level McDermott and Beane want is something that Beane and his team will figure out.  If he's the guy, then Beane's job is to go get him.  

 

Hard to say what any draft pick will do. If they knew would be this good he would have gone in the first round.

 

[Shaw66]

49 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Hard to say what any draft pick will do. If they knew would be this good he would have gone in the first round.

 

Yeah.  Amazing steal where they got him. 

[MrEpsYtown]

59 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Hard to say what any draft pick will do. If they knew would be this good he would have gone in the first round.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Yeah.  Amazing steal where they got him. 

McDermott actually had him behind Tanner Vallejo early in camp. Milano had a very slow start, but picked it up. I give McDermott credit for finding him, but it’s not like they thought he was some amazing sure thing or anything. 

[Shaw66]

27 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

McDermott actually had him behind Tanner Vallejo early in camp. Milano had a very slow start, but picked it up. I give McDermott credit for finding him, but it’s not like they thought he was some amazing sure thing or anything. 

It's just in the nature of the draft.   The measure of how difficult it is to project college players into the pros is how many times the professionals - the GMs and coaches - get it wrong.   Their jobs are riding on the quality of their picks, they have every incentive to get it right, and they miss a lot.  

[78thealltimegreat]

 Campbell is a tackling machine but Sanders is literally like an extra edge rusher which Beane is so enamored with. If they go D in round 1 which I fully expect as I think the WR stuff is a smokescreen since Beane can’t help himself with high D picks. I fully expect Drew Sanders to be a Bill. 

[nosejob]

36 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

 Campbell is a tackling machine but Sanders is literally like an extra edge rusher which Beane is so enamored with. If they go D in round 1 which I fully expect as I think the WR stuff is a smokescreen since Beane can’t help himself with high D picks. I fully expect Drew Sanders to be a Bill. 

I think Campbell has to be the pick over Sanders.

 

I would then prefer adding Foskey for pass rush ( which may be at 59) and we could list/ put him at OLB or put him on the Edge whenever.

 

I also like Kingsley Jonathan in that same fashion ( who was the no. 1 overall pick in the CFL and can play both as well). I got a gut feeling about him. He looks fast af.

 

Edited April 12, 2023 by nosejob

[Rigotz]

On 4/6/2023 at 11:02 PM, Rigotz said:

So… what led you to make this bold claim?

Was it the 7 page thread I created on the topic a week ago?

 

 

 

If we're going to ignore the 7 page thread I made on this exact same topic a week prior to this one, can we at least merge the two?

[MrEpsYtown]

27 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

If we're going to ignore the 7 page thread I made on this exact same topic a week prior to this one, can we at least merge the two?

 

We tend to go in circles here

 

A lot of the same stuff is in the Edmunds draft replacements thread. It's all-inclusive. 

[TRIP65]

On 4/5/2023 at 10:00 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Everyone likes Jack Campbell, and i do too, but hes the safe pick to replace Edmunds but Sanders is dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves. 

 

he could be our Lawrence Taylor instead of another Edmunds.

 

And hes got that NASTY, which this team needs more of.

 

 

 

McDermott likes Blitz so this would make sense. If Frazier here it would be Campbell.

 

I say go 3-4 and get both. Move up 2nd round with your 2 and 3. We can address problems with UDF's and Vet's left over.

 

Imagine NT Philips (backup Settle), DE Oliver, Jones  (Basham, Epensa backup), also have Bryant

 

Outside Linebacker  - Vonn , Rousseau  (Sanders rookie backs up but spells Vonn a lot)

 

Inside Linebacker  - Milano, Campbell ( Benard, Dodson, Spector backup )

 

Have to draft Campbell, size is what you need. You can get any number of Blitzers but love Sanders too.

 

Linebacker can still come out on 3rd and long for Nickle and Vonn goes to defense line for 4-3 hybrid. DT then are Philips, Oliver with Vonn, Rousseau. Milano, Sanders stay in and add Rapp as Linebacker or your nickle corner.

 

Imagine the confusion LB or Safety Blitz from anywhere any down. Having a 3-4 allows this with Two big NT which we have and two big DE's.

 

Our Saftey position and CB's are strong, with Rapp added and Neal with two big Safeties (LB's)

 

Epensa can go to ILB too if needed against run teams to keep fresh. Imagine Epensa and Campbell inside sometimes and Vonn (Sanders) Milano outside. Who's gonna run against that????

 

Draft Sanders 27 and go up and get Campbell early 2.

 

 

[Rigotz]

49 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

McDermott likes Blitz so this would make sense. If Frazier here it would be Campbell.

 

I say go 3-4 and get both. Move up 2nd round with your 2 and 3. We can address problems with UDF's and Vet's left over.

 

Imagine NT Philips (backup Settle), DE Oliver, Jones  (Basham, Epensa backup), also have Bryant

 

Outside Linebacker  - Vonn , Rousseau  (Sanders rookie backs up but spells Vonn a lot)

 

Inside Linebacker  - Milano, Campbell ( Benard, Dodson, Spector backup )

 

Have to draft Campbell, size is what you need. You can get any number of Blitzers but love Sanders too.

 

Linebacker can still come out on 3rd and long for Nickle and Vonn goes to defense line for 4-3 hybrid. DT then are Philips, Oliver with Vonn, Rousseau. Milano, Sanders stay in and add Rapp as Linebacker or your nickle corner.

 

Imagine the confusion LB or Safety Blitz from anywhere any down. Having a 3-4 allows this with Two big NT which we have and two big DE's.

 

Our Saftey position and CB's are strong, with Rapp added and Neal with two big Safeties (LB's)

 

Epensa can go to ILB too if needed against run teams to keep fresh. Imagine Epensa and Campbell inside sometimes and Vonn (Sanders) Milano outside. Who's gonna run against that????

 

Draft Sanders 27 and go up and get Campbell early 2.

 

 

 

So ... we're officially in the "Epensa can go to ILB too" portion of the thread ...

 

Welp, I'm done here!

[TRIP65]

2 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

So ... we're officially in the "Epensa can go to ILB too" portion of the thread ...

 

Welp, I'm done here!

Only on running teams. You saying Epensa doesn't play run well???

 

"Inside Linebacker  - Milano, Campbell ( Benard, Dodson, Spector backup )"

On 4/9/2023 at 1:58 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

We dont have a traditional MLB, but two LBs that play sideline to sideline.

 

 

 

 

 Because he can rush the passer too

 

 

Vonn is our LT

[TRIP65]

2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

We tend to go in circles here

 

A lot of the same stuff is in the Edmunds draft replacements thread. It's all-inclusive. 

Of course we talk in Circles, not going to read Thread pages 1-10 when there are 18.

Also some Threads are around awhile and things change. Shouldn't be living your life on a Community Board.

[TRIP65]

On 4/6/2023 at 10:54 AM, gobills404 said:

 

Actually Campbell tackles better, faster cone movement, bigger. Rated the Best "Athletic" LB. Doesn't need break way speed at Middle linebacker. He is SMART and can make the call, defend the run plus drop back. He is what Edmunds wasn't. Not knocking Sanders but he is more risk cause your NOT sure his tackling will get better, did Edmunds?

[Doc]

Sanders sounds like another Edmunds.  Not sure they want to go down that road again.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, TRIP65 said:

McDermott likes Blitz so this would make sense. If Frazier here it would be Campbell.

 

I say go 3-4 and get both. Move up 2nd round with your 2 and 3. We can address problems with UDF's and Vet's left over.

 

Imagine NT Philips (backup Settle), DE Oliver, Jones  (Basham, Epensa backup), also have Bryant

 

Outside Linebacker  - Vonn , Rousseau  (Sanders rookie backs up but spells Vonn a lot)

 

Inside Linebacker  - Milano, Campbell ( Benard, Dodson, Spector backup )

 

Have to draft Campbell, size is what you need. You can get any number of Blitzers but love Sanders too.

 

Linebacker can still come out on 3rd and long for Nickle and Vonn goes to defense line for 4-3 hybrid. DT then are Philips, Oliver with Vonn, Rousseau. Milano, Sanders stay in and add Rapp as Linebacker or your nickle corner.

 

Imagine the confusion LB or Safety Blitz from anywhere any down. Having a 3-4 allows this with Two big NT which we have and two big DE's.

 

Our Saftey position and CB's are strong, with Rapp added and Neal with two big Safeties (LB's)

 

Epensa can go to ILB too if needed against run teams to keep fresh. Imagine Epensa and Campbell inside sometimes and Vonn (Sanders) Milano outside. Who's gonna run against that????

 

Draft Sanders 27 and go up and get Campbell early 2.

 

 

You say we go 3-4!  
 

[TRIP65]

On 4/6/2023 at 9:09 AM, GreggTX said:

I will be writing off any notion of winning a SB if we blow a 1st round pick on a LB. There's plenty of LB talent to be had on day 2.

Beane intentionally fills Roster with players that can play if needed in Free Agency. He the Drafts his Board "Best Player Available by NEED

 

We NEED LB, don't lose your 2018 1st round guy you move up to get by replacing with Medicore Talent your not SURE of from last year.

 

That means Beane will draft ILB  1 or 2 unless he trades for someone like Queen in Baltimore.

 

How did Evans, Watkins work out 1st round WR's. Not often WR's work in 1st year.

 

How about Tackles, got Ford, Mike Williams thought to be sure hits, NOT

 

More often Safties, LB's, CB's, guards, RB's are more sure things. Bills need there 1st two picks to PLAY this year, not developments.

 

Bills can sign anyone available to Veteran minimums over almost every other TEAM because of JOSH. That is your draft now, 1 year minimum contracts till you find a fit.

 

Low RISK and the players have NFL Tape.

 

Your draft is to keep decent players minimum salary for 4-5 years.

 

If you hit a home run, you may lose then to freeagency.

 

Only keep maybe 10 top players now over 7 million. Our QB is 17% of salary cap, actually lowered to around 12% but that makes the next 5 years over 20%.

 

You can't draft to develop 3-4 years from now except lower rounds. First two picks will have to play year 1 or 2 WELL!

[MrEpsYtown]

49 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

Of course we talk in Circles, not going to read Thread pages 1-10 when there are 18.

Also some Threads are around awhile and things change. Shouldn't be living your life on a Community Board.

This is a pretty comprehensive board with great conversation. I like reading other people’s ideas and sharing my own. JMO. To me a thread on page 2 isn't old, but hey everyone has a different opinion! All good

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 4/12/2023 at 2:56 PM, Doc said:

Sanders sounds like another Edmunds.  Not sure they want to go down that road again.

 

Edmunds was not a good passrusher nor was he violence with attitude.

 

 

[AuntieEm]

On 4/5/2023 at 10:56 PM, Augie said:

 

What do we get if you’re wrong?   🤷‍♂️

 

  My guess is we get jack Campbell if he's wrong,  am I  right?

[NewEra]

6 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

 

  My guess is we get jack Campbell if he's wrong,  am I  right?

No

[Buffalo Barbarian]

In the third round the Buffalo Bills select LB Drew Sanders

 

 

[jaybills]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

In the third round the Buffalo Bills select LB Drew Sanders

 

 

He won't be there, I wouldn't think. Thought we were gonna take him in the 2nd. Glad we didn't now because I love the guard from Florida we took. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Mother 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

 

 

[RiotAct]

He’s a Bronco.

[GymShorts84]

So close

 

[Desert Bills Fan]

Maybe Overshown