Augie Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Said it is unsustainable the way he is playing football and being wreckless at times. Says history has shown it and says they talk about it all the time but the message doesn't seem to have gotten through enough and says it HAS to change next year. Brought it up multiple times during the interview apparently. Pretty strong message being sent from McD. Should make all the people freaking out about Allen running so much happy... Battista: McDermott 'louder than ever' in his emphasis on Josh Allen needing to slide https://www.nfl.com/videos/battista-mcdermott-louder-than-ever-in-his-emphasis-on-josh-allen-needing-to-sli Did he mention that the human body was not meant to play the game of football? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 That's nice and all, but watch them draft heavily on defense early yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Your 2nd video was a pass from the pocket, but I know which play you meant to post against the Raiders. Wasnt he getting to the sideline tho? And there was no possibility for him to slide in the 1st one. Probably wouldve ended up with more cheap shots to the head like the Miami slide I posted above. All in all, as a runner, it's better to do the hitting than get hit. But it’s not one or the other. It’s really just better to not get hit OR do the hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) On GMFB today (I thought I would eventually come to accept Erdahl/McCourty but I've actually grown to hate them - but that is another topic 😛 ) Matt Judon was on and they were talking about this. At one point Judon said "There's not too much in Buffalo besides Josh Allen" - I had to rewind to make sure I heard it right - then I had to process - does he mean on the team? Then it was apparent he meant literally in the city of Buffalo there was not too much besides Josh Allen. lol Has he never been to Dave & Busters? Edited March 27, 2023 by stevewin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Agreed, but I mean what is he going to do, bench him? He’s going to bench himself. IR. Love Josh and his toughness, but he’s taking a lot of hits he shouldn’t be taking. Running back mentality is not for franchise quarterbacks. I’m not talking hits because of the oline. Hits he’s taking when he can slide or run out of bounds. Oh, and stop leaping over guys. Edit: LAMP, but I’ve brought this up on a few occasions. Edited March 27, 2023 by Dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Pretty sure Cam Newton agrees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mango said: I think there is a lot of nuance to the Josh should/shouldn’t run critique. - He doesn’t run like Mahomes. A lot of the time he isn’t evading pressure, picking up positive yards, and getting out of bounds. He almost seeks out contact like Lynch or AP. - Josh takes off to run when he doesn’t see the whole field. - The OL sucks. Josh needs to take off less/see the field better and get down/out of bounds when he does. AND we need to fix the OL. All of those things are true. I wish I could give this more than one thumbs up. I think some on here would say what do you mean he doesn't always see the field? I agree with your take 100%. The line often doesn't give him a lot of time to see the field, but ultimately, reading defenses is the biggest area he can work on. People are learning to take away almost everything he does to try and generate offense without fully reading the defense. They aren't letting him roll to the sidelines. They're often slow rushing him. Not giving him the easy rush lane up the middle. Right now, the way to beat Josh is keep him in the pocket and he's going to have to eventually figure that our more. I'm sure he will with how hard he works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You're not going to. When a player plays with that much passion, you're not going to change him. Nor should you. If you did, you'd be taking away his cheat code. Let the man run. It not only fires himself up, but the team and fans as well. The threat alone probably opens up plays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 He is going to scramble. Have him look for yards than get down or out of bounds. He is telling Dorsey no more Allen power right in September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 It’s all fine and dandy, but if they don’t protect him up front…he’s always gonna be running for his life. Seems like he was in the pocket when he got hurt… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) While I absolutely agree that Josh needs to be careful and not absorb unnecessary shots, I do believe that it is in his nature to play the way he does. And honestly, if he starts doing things that are not natural for him, he could very well open himself up to injury -- rather than avoid it. Let's remember that the elbow injuries that he has sustained came when he was in the pocket and from his blind side when protection broke down. Solutions: 1. Improve the OL 2. Dial up plays that allow Josh to get the ball out of his hand quicker 3. Make use of check-downs 4. Be smarter about when it is time to throw the ball away 5. Get down or out of bounds when possible Edited March 27, 2023 by 2003Contenders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I think Josh is at his best whe he's allowed to play almost without thinking. When he has to think things through, or have specific requests in mind, I think he can second guess himself which impacts his game. I fully appreciate what McDermott is saying, but am concerned it'll impact neagtively on Josh's style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Said it is unsustainable the way he is playing football and being wreckless at times. Says history has shown it and says they talk about it all the time but the message doesn't seem to have gotten through enough and says it HAS to change next year. Brought it up multiple times during the interview apparently. Pretty strong message being sent from McD. Should make all the people freaking out about Allen running so much happy... Battista: McDermott 'louder than ever' in his emphasis on Josh Allen needing to slide https://www.nfl.com/videos/battista-mcdermott-louder-than-ever-in-his-emphasis-on-josh-allen-needing-to-sli Prefer McDermott to have a bit more self-introspection and not try to deflect the teams failings with this type of trivial thing. If McDermott truly believes it MUST change, he should look to trade Allen to a coach who will appreciate his talents. There is ZERO reason for McDermott to be airing this laundry in public. Allen is a team player, and won't likely air his complaints publically. But Allen has a boatload more to complain about in lack of protection resources, and his HC f'ing up playoff games than McDermotts efforts to start "wontslidegate" Edited March 27, 2023 by Chaos 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Nor should you. If you did, you'd be taking away his cheat code. Let the man run. It not only fires himself up, but the team and fans as well. The threat alone probably opens up plays. I always felt that it was better to try to calm down a player than having to fire up a player. Allen is just that guy that gives his everything in every play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Pretty sure Cam Newton agrees. Newton's injuries occurred on pocket plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Newton's injuries occurred on pocket plays. Newton’s career-altering shoulder injury happened making a tackle after throwing an iNT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Newton's injuries occurred on pocket plays. 2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Newton’s career-altering shoulder injury happened making a tackle after throwing an iNT. You're both right. Most of his wear and tear was from refs allowing defenders to tee off on him, often cheap and illegally. And then he hurt himself playing defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Slide on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Lead story: Josh needs to run less and slide more. I agree wholeheartedly. Second Lead Story: Von Miller recovery going great. Expected back earlier than first thought. I like that just as much! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Sit his ass for a series to make the point if needed, Josh can’t be so “ignorant” as to purposefully put the entire team’s future in jeopardy, and that’s how you put It to him, he will learn. It’s good that his Boss is driving this point home. yeah, that'll go over well with the team. Good call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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