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1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

Quintin Morris - ranked 72 of 73 TE's by PFF, and some guy named Zach Davidson out of the football powerhouse called Central Missouri, who was a Vikings discard.

 

 

I'm not saying Morris anything other than a JAG but for a 2nd TE on any NFL team his usage was minimal in the passing game.

He had 11 targets with 8 completions for 84 yards and 1 TD.  

 

The Bills definitely can use a true TE2 but if they keep a TE3, Morris could be that guy as cheap as he comes.

My hope is that comes with around the 4-5th round pick at TE.

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Schoen and Daboll are doing what most new GM/HCs do that came from another organization.

The Giants have to fill out the "come to camp" roster.

 

Having a number of these players that they know their level of play will helps measure the other players they bring to camp.

Every team does this, yes including the Bills.

 

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3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Just part of the 2019 draft free agency class.

 

I had to laugh earlier, listening to WGR, they had some guest on talking about the different FA moves - McGovern, Singletary, Harris, possibly moving Oliver - and he was like "What is it about that 2019 draft that there is so much movement?!?". I was thinking "It's been 4 years and their rookie contracts are up, numbnuts"

 


Not to beat a dead horse. But drafts like that are terrible for franchises long term. You can’t just let an entire draft class walk and expect to be successful. 
 

I hate the what if game. But if the Bills drafted Sam Darnold instead of Allen, we’d only have Taron Johnson left from that class. Only to be followed by 2019 that could leave us with only Dawson Knox. 
 

Allen covers for more flaws on this franchise than just the players on the field. 

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8 minutes ago, Mango said:


Not to beat a dead horse. But drafts like that are terrible for franchises long term. You can’t just let an entire draft class walk and expect to be successful. 
 

I hate the what if game. But if the Bills drafted Sam Darnold instead of Allen, we’d only have Taron Johnson left from that class. Only to be followed by 2019 that could leave us with only Dawson Knox. 
 

Allen covers for more flaws on this franchise than just the players on the field. 

theyre able to hide behind him.  The fans are so dumb they start to point at Allen when he gets tired.  It's crazy, they shouldnt wait for the contract to run out with alot of these guys.  His affinity for the undersized back is the equivalent to some broad collecting little animal figurines like penguins or frogs or something. 

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3 hours ago, inaugural balls said:

TE room just improved 

 

So did availability to trainer / therapist time.

 

Availability is the most important attribute.

3 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:

Are Giants fans going to start bemoaning the Buffalo-to-NYG connection as they add former Bills?

Also - who are our TE's now?  Knox and . . . . .

 

Well if the Jiants fans would admit they are a New JERSEY team it would be less appealing for Bills players to move to that team.

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It was a joke....jokeman

 

Well if you have to point out something is a joke it must not be very funny.

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13 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Only Oliver and Knox remain from the 2019 draft class.

 

1st - Oliver: 5th year option picked up

2nd - Ford: traded 

3rd - Singletary: left in FA

3rd - Knox: extended

5th - V. Joseph: cut

6th - J. Johnson: left in FA

7th - D. Johnson: traded

7th - Sweeney: left in FA

 

In hindsight this particular draft is painful to look at.  1 pick away from Josh Allen and could have nabbed DK Metcalf in the 2nd.  

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27 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Only Oliver and Knox remain from the 2019 draft class.

 

1st - Oliver: 5th year option picked up

2nd - Ford: traded 

3rd - Singletary: left in FA

3rd - Knox: extended

5th - V. Joseph: cut

6th - J. Johnson: left in FA

7th - D. Johnson: traded

7th - Sweeney: left in FA

 

and the Chiefs have 2 as well

 

2nd Hardman left in FA

3rd Juan Thornhill left in FA

3rd Khalen Saunders left in FA

6th Rashad Fenton extended

6th Derwin Thompson cut

7th Nick Allegretti extended

 

 

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17 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

and the Chiefs have 2 as well

 

2nd Hardman left in FA

3rd Juan Thornhill left in FA

3rd Khalen Saunders left in FA

6th Rashad Fenton extended

6th Derwin Thompson cut

7th Nick Allegretti extended

 

 

 

First off, you are not allowed to say anything bad about the KC Chiefs.  They are infallible.

Second, Fenton was traded to Atlanta for a 7th round pick.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/rashad-fenton-29249/

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1 hour ago, streetkings01 said:

Only Oliver and Knox remain from the 2019 draft class.

 

1st - Oliver: 5th year option picked up

2nd - Ford: traded 

3rd - Singletary: left in FA

3rd - Knox: extended

5th - V. Joseph: cut

6th - J. Johnson: left in FA

7th - D. Johnson: traded

7th - Sweeney: left in FA

 

 

I wouldnt classify it as a disaster of a draft.. Not obviously at 2017 or 2018 levels, but they got good value out of Singletary and J Johnson... Even Sweeney as a 7th.. Not every pick is going to be signed to a second contract

 

Knox was a great pick around 100... Ford a disaster and Oliver didnt live up to where they picked him.. He ended up being the first and worst DT taken out of the 5 in the first Round so Beane whiffed there..

 

Still.. Have a look at some of the Whaley drafts and those from the early 2000's ..

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Also, the awesome amazing Bengals…their 2019 Draft, Germaine Pratt is all thats left. Jonah is a bust and requesting a trade. 


The Steelers, typically good drafters, Diontae Johnson the only one still there. 

 

What the Bills got out of Oliver and Knox and Singletary is actually pretty successful. 

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10 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:

Who the hell is that??  

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Roscoe was an underwhelming part of the Saturday funnies back in the day.  Always riding the coattails of his buddy Buz Sawyer.

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"Watch him catch 12 TDs next year."

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Depends whether he wears gloves or not.  There's an argument this board loves having. 😁

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11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

I wouldnt classify it as a disaster of a draft.. Not obviously at 2017 or 2018 levels, but they got good value out of Singletary and J Johnson... Even Sweeney as a 7th.. Not every pick is going to be signed to a second contract

 

Knox was a great pick around 100... Ford a disaster and Oliver didnt live up to where they picked him.. He ended up being the first and worst DT taken out of the 5 in the first Round so Beane whiffed there..

 

Still.. Have a look at some of the Whaley drafts and those from the early 2000's ..

 

Oliver was the 2nd DT taken. Behind Q. And he has not lived up to a top 10 pick but he is still a really good player. I actually think he is underrated by Bills fans because they are disappointed with the production.

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