Rocky Landing Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) $11 mil per year for arguably their best WR. Edited March 14, 2023 by Rocky Landing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 That's a non-trivial loss for the Pats. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him. So far the Bills and Pats have pretty much stood still to somewhat backsliding. The Dolphins and Jets (assuming Rogers) have both, on paper, improved significantly. Let's hope the talent parity will get our coaching staff to recognize the situation and stop being cute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: That's a non-trivial loss for the Pats. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him. So far the Bills and Pats have pretty much stood still to somewhat backsliding. The Dolphins and Jets (assuming Rogers) have both, on paper, improved significantly. Let's hope the talent parity will get our coaching staff to recognize the situation and stop being cute knowing them, they’ll probably just sign 4 more tight ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 The Pats are screwed. This is the 2nd year in a row no one is going there or key guys are leaving. They are weaker today because of it, especially on offense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, dorquemada said: That's a non-trivial loss for the Pats. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him. So far the Bills and Pats have pretty much stood still to somewhat backsliding. The Dolphins and Jets (assuming Rogers) have both, on paper, improved significantly. Let's hope the talent parity will get our coaching staff to recognize the situation and stop being cute The Dolphins got Ramsey and David Long... that's improving significantly? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 And $11M/year isn't too bad for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 The conspiratorially-minded might wonder if Meyers wasn't secretly on Josh McDaniels' payroll last season when he threw the Fail Mary in LV. McDaniels employing the Patriot* Way? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, JoPoy88 said: knowing them, they’ll probably just sign 4 more tight ends. or some high motor character guys who get eaten alive on game day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Payback (actually, reward) for the lateral! Or whatever the hell that was! 😁 Edited March 14, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Thats a shame… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Malazan said: The Dolphins got Ramsey and David Long... that's improving significantly? Yes, adding an all pro CB to their D, which was already pretty good against us, along with Vic Fangio, is an improvement. Tell me you're not such a homer that you imagine that either of those things makes Miami worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Well if this isn't cause for awarding a twelve pack of double secret conditional draft picks to New England, I don't know what is...🤔 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dorquemada said: That's a non-trivial loss for the Pats. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him. So far the Bills and Pats have pretty much stood still to somewhat backsliding. The Dolphins and Jets (assuming Rogers) have both, on paper, improved significantly. Let's hope the talent parity will get our coaching staff to recognize the situation and stop being cute This early in FA is when teams will overpay for FA acquisitions (Meyers notwithstanding...). I'm not surprised Beane hasn't made any significant moves towards a skill position. Edited March 14, 2023 by Rocky Landing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Yes, adding an all pro CB to their D, which was already pretty good against us, along with Vic Fangio, is an improvement. Tell me you're not such a homer that you imagine that either of those things makes Miami worse If you have to try to gaslight by putting words in people's mouths then you are probably not doing enough research on your own argument. Take some time, calm down.. and try again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12/18/22 - lateral's backwards to lose the game vs raiders 3/14/23 - signs 11 mil/yr deal to join raiders fishyyyyyy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, dorquemada said: That's a non-trivial loss for the Pats. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him. So far the Bills and Pats have pretty much stood still to somewhat backsliding. The Dolphins and Jets (assuming Rogers) have both, on paper, improved significantly. Let's hope the talent parity will get our coaching staff to recognize the situation and stop being cute The big difference is that when healthy, the Bills are STILL the best team in the division. We're not doing much, but getting Hyde & Miller back (and hopefully a 100% Tre) will put our talent above any other team in the east. The Pats weren't that talented to begin with. They don't have a bad team, but they will likely finish in last place unless something dramatic happens the rest of the offseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Malazan said: If you have to try to gaslight by putting words in people's mouths then you are probably not doing enough research on your own argument. Take some time, calm down.. and try again. Perhaps you should restate your position on the Dolphins offseason so far. I'll make it easy on you, does adding Fangio & Ramsey make Miami (A) better, or (B) worse? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, dorquemada said: Perhaps you should restate your position on the Dolphins offseason so far. I'll make it easy on you, does adding Fangio & Ramsey make Miami (A) better, or (B) worse? Sorry, I'm not interested in playing your game as I already stated my position. If you didn't understand, that's on you to work harder. If you want to continue to try to play these games where you want people to answer a certain and limited way then I suggest you find someone else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Players wanted to play for New England because of Brady, not Belichick. The Patriots will continue to flounder with the grouchy, below average head coach in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Perhaps you should restate your position on the Dolphins offseason so far. I'll make it easy on you, does adding Fangio & Ramsey make Miami (A) better, or (B) worse? Miami improving significantly and Miami being better are 2 totally different takes. You stepped it down to try and get him to agree with you lol. Miami is NOT significantly better than they were. Sorry, but that's a horrible take. Better, yes, significantly better, hell no. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, H2o said: The Pats are screwed. This is the 2nd year in a row no one is going there or key guys are leaving. They are weaker today because of it, especially on offense. Agreed. Guys will put up with BB's BS if they are winning. They won't if they are not even making the playoffs with noodle arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: The conspiratorially-minded might wonder if Meyers wasn't secretly on Josh McDaniels' payroll last season when he threw the Fail Mary in LV. McDaniels employing the Patriot* Way? Was he the guy? No wonder he left, the type of play no Pats fan or Belcihek would ever forget, they type of play after which you cant wait to go to a new team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Miami improving significantly and Miami being better are 2 totally different takes. You stepped it down to try and get him to agree with you lol. Miami is NOT significantly better than they were. Sorry, but that's a horrible take. Better, yes, significantly better, hell no. I guess we'll see. They played us pretty damn hard in Buffalo in January with their Z string QB. Things change fast in the NFL, and we shouldn't assume that because we have Josh Allen that we're just going to roll over everyone, particularly if the playcalling remains as anemic as it was the 2nd half of last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: I guess we'll see. They played us pretty damn hard in Buffalo in January with their Z string QB. Things change fast in the NFL, and we shouldn't assume that because we have Josh Allen that we're just going to roll over everyone, particularly if the playcalling remains as anemic as it was the 2nd half of last season Whether they played us hard or not has no bearing on the question have they significantly improved thus far in FA vs just got better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Whether they played us hard or not has no bearing on the question have they significantly improved thus far in FA vs just got better. So where is the line between 'got better' and 'significantly improved'? To me it's adding playmakers and better coaching, to declare a team significantly improved, and in my judgement, Miami has done that so far. If Ramsey makes a couple plays that the guy he's replacing didn't, Miami goes 2-1 against the Bills last year and we never get a chance to get smoked by Cincy. Or, if Fangio's D plays 10% better, and they win a couple more games in season. Don't fool yourself, they are going to be better. How hard they played us has significant bearing on this topic because how much better does Miami need to be to sweep us? 2 losses to the Bills by a total of 6 points isn't exactly domination by us, with net Buffalo +4 points separating us out of 166 points scored in three games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: So where is the line between 'got better' and 'significantly improved'? To me it's adding playmakers and better coaching, to declare a team significantly improved, and in my judgement, Miami has done that so far. If Ramsey makes a couple plays that the guy he's replacing didn't, Miami goes 2-1 against the Bills last year and we never get a chance to get smoked by Cincy. Or, if Fangio's D plays 10% better, and they win a couple more games in season. Don't fool yourself, they are going to be better. How hard they played us has significant bearing on this topic because how much better does Miami need to be to sweep us? 2 losses to the Bills by a total of 6 points isn't exactly domination by us, with net Buffalo +4 points separating us out of 166 points scored in three games. You typed all this for what reason? They still are not significantly better than they were at the end of the season. Games against Buffalo or any other team for that matter, last season still have no bearing on your original statement, that is a fact. Does it improve their chances next year, maybe, but we still have the rest of FA and the draft to get through before that question can be answered. The Dolphins only have a 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th for draft picks this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Payback (actually, reward) for the lateral! Or whatever the hell that was! 😁 whatever happen there…??!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: Perhaps you should restate your position on the Dolphins offseason so far. I'll make it easy on you, does adding Fangio & Ramsey make Miami (A) better, or (B) worse? A. On paper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Doc said: A. On paper. Paper's all we have to talk about right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: That's a non-trivial loss for the Pats. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in to replace him. Wasnt he involved in a non-trivial loss to the raiders…… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, djp14150 said: Wasnt he involved in a non-trivial loss to the raiders…… https://clipchamp.com/watch/4yfzvy9vOrV perhaps my favorite moment of the 2022 season in fact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Paper's all we have to talk about right now Yup. But it’s still on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, dorquemada said: Perhaps you should restate your position on the Dolphins offseason so far. I'll make it easy on you, does adding Fangio & Ramsey make Miami (A) better, or (B) worse? Unknown at this time. Ramsey has been overrated and declining. Diggs has abused him consistently. Not sure how a difference this makes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Love it! ***** the Cheats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I like him as a player but he’s not really changing your team one way or another. MacJones is still butt cheeks with or with him. but nice of the raiders to reward him after he handed them a W last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 8 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said: 12/18/22 - lateral's backwards to lose the game vs raiders 3/14/23 - signs 11 mil/yr deal to join raiders fishyyyyyy I mean, he was the guy that proved Carr was so useless a WR could outscore him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 10 hours ago, dorquemada said: They played us pretty damn hard in Buffalo in January with their Z string QB. They really didn't though. We just had a long series of unforced errors that put them back in the game. They lived and died on zero blitzes to compensate for the talent discrepancy and the gamble almost worked. But the talent discrepancy was still there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, dorquemada said: Yes, adding an all pro CB to their D, which was already pretty good against us, along with Vic Fangio, is an improvement. Tell me you're not such a homer that you imagine that either of those things makes Miami worse They didn’t give up less than 420 yards against us in any of the three matchups and it should’ve been much more if it weren’t for a few flukey plays. Not at all fully disagreeing with you but I think the term ‘significant improvement’ may be a stretch unless Xavien Howard return to form. He was awful last season(couldve been injury related) and teams will just pick on him. This idea that they have two lockdown corners is a stretch ramsey doesn’t have to cover long in LA which inflates his value a bit…they have been the best defensive line in football for a lot of his time there. Miami is no slouch either but they are definitely a tier below peak LA he obviously helps but I’m not expecting a complete defensive transformation they might honestly take a step backwards early in the season until they get more experience in the new system Edited March 15, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, HappyDays said: They really didn't though. We just had a long series of unforced errors that put them back in the game. They lived and died on zero blitzes to compensate for the talent discrepancy and the gamble almost worked. But the talent discrepancy was still there. We had two really flukey games against them that I think is clouding people’s perception a bit. The yardage totals we put up were insane. just about doubled up the dolphins offensive production in two of the three games Edited March 15, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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