Success Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 If I'm a Jets fan, I don't think I'd be thrilled about getting Rodgers. Maybe because he'll make them relevant for a year. But that team seemed to have a good thing going last year. A lot of great young talent, and I think Saleh is a good, solid coach. From the outside, it seems like Rodgers is being a bit disruptive w/ the whole "wish list" thing, and in general, the Jets will be going more "all in" for 2023 than for the long term. With the team they have, I would have preferred to just go w/ a capable QB, like Jimmy G, and build more for the future. Rodgers makes them relevant, but I don't think he gets them to the SB. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: Hackett really did wonders last season with Mr Unlimited Negative EPA offense yet again. Just like EVERY offense he has led. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: Negative EPA offense yet again. Just like EVERY offense he has led. The worst offense in the league. Without question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Success said: We DO have a bit of a cap situation - even w/ the restructures. We can't spend like other teams this year. Next year, Cincy will have that problem. We made our "splash" in FA last year. That's not something most teams can do in consecutive years. The same guys who put this team into that cap situation are the ones people here hope will acquire new players and build a better offense. Jury's out on McBeane. 16 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Time to rid ourselves of Oliver That would be a bold move...but I could see McD only willing to part with one of his hand-picked highly drafted guys this off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: You win the Division first. but let’s talk CINCY how many impact defenders did they lose? Who is protecting Mahomes on the edges a career RT at LT. All teams have holes right now. Both those teams were already ahead of the Bills. I believe more in the Chiefs to fix holes then the Bills right now. McBeane hasn't shown they can do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: I could care less about winning the division again. The question should be what have they done to get better against the playoff teams they lost to. Like another top WR that's not Davis that takes pressure off Diggs or better RB that is an major upgrade over what they continue to put out. I want them to win the division. You want the #1 seed and the bye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Only if we trade up to do so. If not, let's grab a first round safety. second round running back, clearly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Because they lost Edmunds? What has MIA done again to pass the Bills? Or Jets? They signed a DC and CB who allen is a combined 5-0 against, with 17 total tds in those games give or take 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: The Milano extension, Bernard pick, and second Milano extension tells me McBeane knew they weren’t bringing Edmunds back a long time ago. They’ve always favored pass defense over run defense, Bernard is highly unproven, thought to have been over drafted, and very small; but is also highly intelligent and great pass defending LB. Perfect situation to draft a player like Bernard and let him sit and learn from guys like Edmunds, Milano, Klein, and Dodson. I think it’s extremely likely that it’s Bernard vs Dobson for the spot next to Milano. I can see AJ Klein returning for another year as well for veteran depth. I understand the skepticism. It was obvious he'd be red shirting here, as no role for him, and absolutely needed to tack on size. That first NFL offseason with a S&C coach, nutritionists on hand, state of art facilities. The biggest jump athletes see in size/strength is that first NFL offseason. Itll never be replicated, basically newbie gains. I see traits of speed, decisiveness, explosion on blitz, all reports of a cerebral player. In games I saw a guy doing too much thinking, itll slow down for him. Hopefully dudes lifting his ass off and eating everything that isnt bolted to the floor. Not gunna lie, Im excited to see him. I def expect growing pains, but hoping they cut him loose and let him blitz some. That kinda thing is great for players confidence, and fun to turn the brain off and pin the ears back. Could def see a bunch of TFL's and pressures at the least. Obv, this is all just my opinion, feel free to drag me lol Edited March 16, 2023 by BillsShredder83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: I understand the skepticism. It was obvious he'd be red shirting here, as no role for him, and absolutely needed to tack on size. That first NFL offseason with a S&C coach, nutritionists on hand, state of art facilities. The biggest jump athletes see in size/strength is that first NFL offseason. Itll never be replicated, basically newbie gains. I see traits of speed, decisiveness, explosion on blitz, all reports of a cerebral player. In games I saw a guy doing too much thinking, itll slow down for him. Hopefully dudes lifting his ass off and eating everything that isnt bolted to the floor. Not gunna lie, Im excited to see him. I def expect growing pains, but hoping they cut him loose and let him blitz. Could def see a bunch of TFL's and pressures at the least. Obv, this is all just my opinion, feel free to drag me lol Bernard looked slower than that to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: I understand the skepticism. It was obvious he'd be red shirting here, as no role for him, and absolutely needed to tack on size. That first NFL offseason with a S&C coach, nutritionists on hand, state of art facilities. The biggest jump athletes see in size/strength is that first NFL offseason. Itll never be replicated, basically newbie gains. I see traits of speed, decisiveness, explosion on blitz, all reports of a cerebral player. In games I saw a guy doing too much thinking, itll slow down for him. Hopefully dudes lifting his ass off and eating everything that isnt bolted to the floor. Not gunna lie, Im excited to see him. I def expect growing pains, but hoping they cut him loose and let him blitz. Could def see a bunch of TFL's and pressures at the least. Obv, this is all just my opinion, feel free to drag me lol Agreed. He did play 62% of Special teams snaps and started one game. He was targeted in the passing game 5 times, gave up 4 catches for (I believe) 37 yards. He made 22 tackles last year and had 0 missed/broken. People like to compare him to Matt Milano, but he’s honestly closer to Edmunds in terms of agility/speed. He was said to be highly athletic, highly intelligent, and a great cover LB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: I understand the skepticism. It was obvious he'd be red shirting here, as no role for him, and absolutely needed to tack on size. That first NFL offseason with a S&C coach, nutritionists on hand, state of art facilities. The biggest jump athletes see in size/strength is that first NFL offseason. Itll never be replicated, basically newbie gains. I see traits of speed, decisiveness, explosion on blitz, all reports of a cerebral player. In games I saw a guy doing too much thinking, itll slow down for him. Hopefully dudes lifting his ass off and eating everything that isnt bolted to the floor. Not gunna lie, Im excited to see him. I def expect growing pains, but hoping they cut him loose and let him blitz. Could def see a bunch of TFL's and pressures at the least. Obv, this is all just my opinion, feel free to drag me lol And RAS, combined with the tape, and what we have addressed in FA leads me to believe that Jack Campbell is going to be our pick at #27. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Bernard looked slower than that to me Paralysis by analysis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, H2o said: And RAS, combined with the tape, and what we have addressed in FA leads me to believe that Jack Campbell is going to be our pick at #27. All-time linebacker name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Paralysis by analysis? Maybe he had "slow eyes" and it caused a real time delayed reaction on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, H2o said: Maybe he had "slow eyes" and it caused a real time delayed reaction on the field. He needed to be in automatic but was in Manuel mode? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: lol, its half that for rookies. lol...giggles. This is from Spotrac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Success said: If I'm a Jets fan, I don't think I'd be thrilled about getting Rodgers. Maybe because he'll make them relevant for a year. But that team seemed to have a good thing going last year. A lot of great young talent, and I think Saleh is a good, solid coach. From the outside, it seems like Rodgers is being a bit disruptive w/ the whole "wish list" thing, and in general, the Jets will be going more "all in" for 2023 than for the long term. With the team they have, I would have preferred to just go w/ a capable QB, like Jimmy G, and build more for the future. Rodgers makes them relevant, but I don't think he gets them to the SB. Agreed. I thought they outsmarted themselves. Smart move would have been to keep LaFleur and sign Garapolo. plus, they have killed it in the draft recently— why give up those picks? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Dark horse MLB: Matt Milano He could absolutely play it, and I’d be curious to see if the MLB responsibilities cause a dip in his impact plays, or if that truly was an Edmunds thing. That would allow Bernard to take over his spot, which he is a great fit for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Dark horse MLB: Matt Milano He could absolutely play it, and I’d be curious to see if the MLB responsibilities cause a dip in his impact plays, or if that truly was an Edmunds thing. That would allow Bernard to take over his spot, which he is a great fit for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Dark horse MLB: Matt Milano He could absolutely play it, and I’d be curious to see if the MLB responsibilities cause a dip in his impact plays, or if that truly was an Edmunds thing. That would allow Bernard to take over his spot, which he is a great fit for. I guess that could happen. Milano's height just doesn't seem to fit for MLB. Wouldn't mind seeing AJ Klein brought back for insurance purposes. I know he's not a MLB, but he's been a good veteran player, 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I think there is a real chance it’s Dobson vs Bernard for MLB. I just posted this in another thread. I fully agree. And I like it TBH. I know most people here don't care about the cap or think it can always be manipulated but at some point we need to make it work with cheap guys as starters. We have top secondary so we have to survive having young LB next to Milano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I just posted this in another thread. I fully agree. And I like it TBH. I know most people here don't care about the cap or think it can always be manipulated but at some point we need to make it work with cheap guys as starters. We have top secondary so we have to survive having young LB next to Milano. Agree, I can’t see them drafting a LB at 27 when they just invested a 3rd round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: Great hands. Only 3 drops in like last 190 targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: Had a mild heart attack reading that 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Great hands. Only 3 drops in like last 190 targets I'd like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hardman or Landry, but I think they are done at WR until the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: All of em lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, JerseyBills said: I'd like it! Diggs _______ Trade/Draft Pick Thielen Harty Shakir Davis traded, McKenzie cut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs _______ Trade/Draft Pick Thielen Harty Shakir Davis traded, McKenzie cut you're quick to lose an asset while not replacing them with a known asset. davis is a legit #3 right now mckenzie is a bona fide #5/6 guy and gadget player. if he can play special teams he will be even better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, boyst said: you're quick to lose an asset while not replacing them with a known asset. davis is a legit #3 right now mckenzie is a bona fide #5/6 guy and gadget player. if he can play special teams he will be even better. Projecting Davis to be traded in the package if we were to make a deal for a legit WR 1B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Thielen is not a must for me. He's a 1 year stop gap sort of player, or at best a year to year now. Hopkins is my #1 choice to try and get better at WR. If not then Jalin Hyatt. We do not need another slot-only smurf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, SCBills said: They'll tell you the Chiefs lost Brown, Wylie, Juju, Hardman, Clark etc.. and it's all true, but they were prepared for much of that and then signed Taylor. They'll tell you the Bengals lost their Safety duo, along with Hurst. All true. But they added a potential stud LT to an already good OL. They'll just dismiss the Jets and Fins.. and I might too. I still view the Bills as the top dog in the AFCE because Allen > Rodgers and Allen > Tua, but man.... those teams are crazy talented around the QB. Thank you for a reasonable take. I agree - the Chiefs and Bengals are entering free agency/draft much less needy than the Bills and still made a significant move. With the Fins and Jets, with Allen we are still the favorites it is just the margin for error is shrinking to razor-thin as we saw last year. We are a bad Allen game or injury away from losing to either of them. Two years ago the east felt like a cake walk, last year it was a struggle, next year is going to be an even bigger battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs _______ Trade/Draft Pick Thielen Harty Shakir Davis traded, McKenzie cut Interesting I'm higher on Gabe than most on here but depending on the compensation I'd do that. I really love the Harty pickup too. Love it. Allegedly he took less $ to come here and had a few teams interested. I wanted Hardman for his speed, glad they got a speed guy that played outside as well 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Interesting I'm higher on Gabe than most on here but depending on the compensation I'd do that. I really love the Harty pickup too. Love it. Allegedly he took less $ to come here and had a few teams interested. I wanted Hardman for his speed, glad they got a speed guy that played outside as well What if we got Hardman too? That would be a great speed upgrade Edited March 16, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I remember last year thinking that teams like the Broncos & Colts were taking big leaps. You never know how things will pan out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: What if we got Hardman too? That would be a great speed upgrade His price has to be coming down, and you'd have to believe teams are checking on the abdomen/pelvis injury that cost him his season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Projecting Davis to be traded in the package if we were to make a deal for a legit WR 1B if this was madden than such a thing is reasonable to project. but the FO seems to like him by all indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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